Hong Kong #OccupyCentral

• Turbulent Times

  29 Sep 14, 19:29

  http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/29/world/asia/china-hong-kong-protests/index.html?hpt=ias_c1
• FireIce

  30 Sep 14, 00:52

  we where got so fwee

• Abel Ang

  30 Sep 14, 01:01

  I doubt it. Singaporeans scared to die one. Just follow law better.

• SJS6638

  30 Sep 14, 14:04

  I assure you it will not happen in sg.  It will not not due to the reason we not so fwee BUT because vast majority are daft and enjoy suffer and complain rather than play a part for a change.  Vast majority who are daft are selfish, immature, unreasonably timid and have great fear for change in government.    They are the most hopeless and useless voters in this whole world.

• SJS6638

  30 Sep 14, 17:40

  Bravo to the hongkies,  they have my support.   Boo to vast majority of daft sinkies who oppose a change in sg and opt to continue to suffer and keep complaining and complaining.  

• Summer hill

  30 Sep 14, 17:45

  

• BanguIzai

  2 Oct 14, 16:39

  https://www.chrdnet.com/2014/10/chrb-activists-across-mainland-china-detained-for-supporting-democracy-protests-in-hong-kong-919-1012014/

   

  [CHRB] Activists Across China Detained for Supporting Democracy Protests in Hong Kong (9/19-10/1/2014)

  Oct 1, 2014 • 2:29 am

  China Human Rights Briefing

  September 19 – October 1, 2014

  Contents

  Freedom of Expression

  • Dozens of Mainland Activists Detained or Intimidated for Expressing Support for Hong Kong Protests

  Rights of Ethnic Minorities

  • 7th Tibetan Self-Immolates This Year in Protest Over Chinese Rule

  Special Notice

  • NGOs in China Launch Cao Shunli Memorial Award

  • CHRD Alerts International Olympic Committee to Human Rights Abuses in Connection With Nanjing Youth Olympics

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  Freedom of Expression

  Dozens of Mainland Activists Detained or Intimidated for Expressing Support for Hong Kong Protests

  A number of Chinese citizens have faced reprisals for supporting the protests for universal suffrage in Hong Kong. The occupation of several areas in Hong Kong, including parts of its financial and political center, has inspired many Chinese on the mainland and encouraged them to speak up for democracy, with many photos appearing on social media of activists holding signs in support of Hong Kong and demanding constitutional democracy for the territory. Police in China have harassed and warned activists in many cities, concerned that they may try to travel to Hong Kong or take to streets to protest.

  CHRD has documented the following incidents from reports by Rights Defense Network (RDN) and Civil Rights & Livelihood Watch (CRLW):

  Detentions:
  

  • Shenzhen police criminally detained activist Wang Long (汪龙) on the charge of “creating a disturbance” on September 29 after he posted messages online about the Hong Kong protests. He is being held in Longgang District Detention Center in Shenzhen.

  • Chongqing activist Luo Yaling (罗亚玲) was taken away by police on September 30 after she expressed support online for the protests in Hong Kong. National security officers initially kept Luo under soft detention at her home after she posted the messages and photos about the protests on weibo and in a QQ online group. Later, she was taken to Daxin Village Police Station.

  • Shanghai plainclothes police and unknown thugs went to the home of activist Chen Jianfang (陈建芳) on September 30 and tried to take her into custody, but she refused to open the door. Chen believes they came for her because she had called on activists to join a demonstration on October 1 in the Shanghai People’s Park in support of the Hong Kong demonstrators. Lawyer Liu Shihui (刘士辉) went to Chen’s home along with Jiangsu activist Le Senping (ä¹�森è��) to try to stop police from harassing her. Reports indicate that police have since seized both Liu and Le Senping, but it is unclear where they are being held.

  • Plainclothes police in Shanghai also took away activist Shen Yanqiu (沈艳秋) on September 30. Shen, who shaved her head on September 28 and posted a photo of herself online to show solidarity with Hong Kong protestors, is being held in an unknown location.

  • Guangzhou police seized dozens of activists and citizens who gathered in the Martyr Memorial Gardens to show support for the Hong Kong protestors on September 30. While reportedly up to 20 citizens were seized and taken to unknown locations, Huang Minpeng (黄æ•�é¹�) and Liu Hui (刘辉) are confirmed to have been taken to Datang Police Station in Yuexiu District, where they were denied food before being released in the afternoon.

  • Beijing activist Jiang Liuying (姜æµ�勇) reportedly was taken away by police along with his wife, activist Li Dongmei (æ�Žå†¬æ¢…), on September 30, after he had received phone calls from officers looking to question him. He told friends that this may be tied to his expression of support for the Hong Kong protests online.

  • Jiangxi Province police seized activists Song Ningsheng (宋å®�生), Gong Xinhua (龚新å�Ž), and Chen Maosen (陈茂森) on September 30, and searched Song’s house. The three men had posted photos of themselves holding up signs in support of the Hong Kong protests.

  Threats & harassment:

  On September 30, Chongqing national security officers called activist Xie Dan (谢丹) to say they were coming to his home to question him. Chongqing activist Han Liang (韩良) was questioned by police in the early morning of September 30, but has since returned home. Beijing activists Han Ying (韩颖) and Guo Guijun (郭桂军) were both visited by police at their homes late at night on September 30. Police demanded entry but did not show any proper documentation and threatened to take them into custody, since the activists refused to open their doors. Their fate remains unclear at the time of this report. In addition, national security officers from Changyuan County in Henan Province threatened democracy activist Guo Chunping (郭春平) after he sent a message on WeChat, a Chinese text messaging platform, in support of Hong Kong on September 29. An officer called Guo and said he would be in danger if he didn’t answer her questions.[1]

  

  Activist Song Ningsheng (宋�生) of Jiangxi Province was taken away by police for holding up signs in support of the Hong Kong protests. (Image: CRLW)

• BanguIzai

  2 Oct 14, 20:53

  http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/10/occupy_central_s_polite_protesters_the_hong_kong_demonstrators_are_disciplined.html

   

  The World’s Politest Protesters

  
  

  The Occupy Central demonstrators are courteous. That’s actually what makes them so dangerous.

  By Srdja Popovic and Tori Porell

  Hong Kong student protesters help recycle garbage during a quiet moment at the protest site on Oct. 1, 2014, in Hong Kong.

   

  TThe protest movement that has sprung to life in Hong Kong now represents the most serious challenge to Beijing’s authority since the Tiananmen protests of 1989. Beijing is obviously worried: Earlier this week it banned the photo-sharing site Instagram and ramped up censorship on the popular Chinese social media site Sina Weibo to unprecedented levels. 

  But while the threat to Beijing’s power is real, the danger isn’t evident on Hong Kong streets: Rather than presenting scenes of smashed shops or violent confrontations with the police—the sort of images we have grown accustomed to in Cairo, Ukraine, and other sites of popular protests against oppressive regimes—the photos from central Hong Kong show smiling students sitting around doing their homework, passing out donations of food, and meticulously picking up litter—even sorting out the recyclables. What, then, is different about these Hong Kong demonstrators? And how might their almost exaggerated politeness help them against the notoriously severe Chinese Communist Party?

  The answers to these questions can be found in the appropriately titled “Manual of Disobedience.” Published online several days before the Occupy Central campaign was set to begin, the document (written in Chinese and English) is part how-to guide and part philosophical mission statement. It details the movement’s tactics, the rules for nonviolent protest, the legal codes that may be violated, and the exact procedure to follow should someone be arrested. It also implores protesters to “avoid physical confrontation, but also to avoid developing hatred in [their] heart,” and explains that the protests must be a model of the values that they are striving to see in their society, namely “equality, tolerance, love, and care.” The protesters understand that these values will not only help win over sympathizers, but lay bare the illegitimacy of the regime if it moves against them with excessive force. These aren’t youthful idealists; these are savvy political operators who understand the secrets of successful nonviolent resistance.

  The proof of this fact is playing out in the streets of Hong Kong right now. After the protesters’ first attempt to block the financial district was met with volleys of teargas from riot police, the people in the street did not fight back, leaving society shocked and emboldened by the authorities’ outrageous use of force. The next day, thousands more people turned up with signs supporting the students, condemning police tactics, and calling for the resignation of Hong Kong leader C.Y. Leung. Although it may seem obvious that a protest movement must win popular support to combat oppression, it is no easy feat, and something we have seen movements in dozens of countries fail to accomplish. The staunch adherence to nonviolence Occupy Central has demonstrated takes preparation, training, and discipline—a combination that’s very rare for many movements.

  Most of the time, organizers aren’t prepared to handle the crowds that surge into the streets, and with no way to maintain calm and cohesion, too many movements have been derailed by a few thrown rocks or smashed storefronts. Governments seize on the smallest acts of disorder or violence as excuses to crack down. However, Occupy Central’s organizers seem to have come prepared. By issuing the manual and attempting to train their activists, they have maintained a united front and warded off the pitfalls that plague too many social movements.

  If, as many people fear, mainland authorities crack down Tiananmen-style, the training and the discipline the protesters have displayed will serve them well, galvanizing support and isolating the Chinese authorities. On the other hand, if Beijing realizes the dilemma it faces, it will have no choice but to negotiate with Hong Kong’s protest leaders, a show of weakness that may ultimately inspire more yearning for democracy and even further protests. For now, while it is amusing to watch the most polite protesters in the world keeping up with their schoolwork and keeping the streets clean, their politeness actually demonstrates why they have become such a powerful force to reckon with.No one has a crystal ball for knowing what Beijing will do next. Right now the government appears to be set to try to wait the protesters out, hoping that their presence and the disruption of daily life will eventually alienate the movement from wider society. However, Occupy Central has positioned itself well, almost no matter the outcome.

   

• Summer hill

  2 Oct 14, 23:56

  http://www.ustream.tv/embed/16916340?v=3&wmode=direct

  live feed here! 

• hastings

  6 Oct 14, 22:09

  Originally posted by SJS6638:

  I assure you it will not happen in sg.  It will not not due to the reason we not so fwee BUT because vast majority are daft and enjoy suffer and complain rather than play a part for a change.  Vast majority who are daft are selfish, immature, unreasonably timid and have great fear for change in government.    They are the most hopeless and useless voters in this whole world.

  Nonsense. Life is good here. That is why majority see no need to protest like this.

• SJS6638

  7 Oct 14, 07:01

  Originally posted by hastings:

  Nonsense. Life is good here. That is why majority see no need to protest like this.

  Nonsense?   Of coure , it is nonsense to you you belong to the vast majority I mentioned.    Nevertheless, people like you don't stop Roy's effort to speak for sgporeans.

• SJS6638

  7 Oct 14, 07:03

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  https://www.chrdnet.com/2014/10/chrb-activists-across-mainland-china-detained-for-supporting-democracy-protests-in-hong-kong-919-1012014/

   

  [CHRB] Activists Across China Detained for Supporting Democracy Protests in Hong Kong (9/19-10/1/2014)

  Oct 1, 2014 • 2:29 am

  China Human Rights Briefing

  September 19 – October 1, 2014

  Contents

  Freedom of Expression

  • Dozens of Mainland Activists Detained or Intimidated for Expressing Support for Hong Kong Protests

  Rights of Ethnic Minorities

  • 7th Tibetan Self-Immolates This Year in Protest Over Chinese Rule

  Special Notice

  • NGOs in China Launch Cao Shunli Memorial Award

  • CHRD Alerts International Olympic Committee to Human Rights Abuses in Connection With Nanjing Youth Olympics

  ---

   

  Freedom of Expression

  Dozens of Mainland Activists Detained or Intimidated for Expressing Support for Hong Kong Protests

  A number of Chinese citizens have faced reprisals for supporting the protests for universal suffrage in Hong Kong. The occupation of several areas in Hong Kong, including parts of its financial and political center, has inspired many Chinese on the mainland and encouraged them to speak up for democracy, with many photos appearing on social media of activists holding signs in support of Hong Kong and demanding constitutional democracy for the territory. Police in China have harassed and warned activists in many cities, concerned that they may try to travel to Hong Kong or take to streets to protest.

  CHRD has documented the following incidents from reports by Rights Defense Network (RDN) and Civil Rights & Livelihood Watch (CRLW):

  Detentions:
  

  • Shenzhen police criminally detained activist Wang Long (汪龙) on the charge of “creating a disturbance” on September 29 after he posted messages online about the Hong Kong protests. He is being held in Longgang District Detention Center in Shenzhen.

  • Chongqing activist Luo Yaling (罗亚玲) was taken away by police on September 30 after she expressed support online for the protests in Hong Kong. National security officers initially kept Luo under soft detention at her home after she posted the messages and photos about the protests on weibo and in a QQ online group. Later, she was taken to Daxin Village Police Station.

  • Shanghai plainclothes police and unknown thugs went to the home of activist Chen Jianfang (陈建芳) on September 30 and tried to take her into custody, but she refused to open the door. Chen believes they came for her because she had called on activists to join a demonstration on October 1 in the Shanghai People’s Park in support of the Hong Kong demonstrators. Lawyer Liu Shihui (刘士辉) went to Chen’s home along with Jiangsu activist Le Senping (ä¹�森è��) to try to stop police from harassing her. Reports indicate that police have since seized both Liu and Le Senping, but it is unclear where they are being held.

  • Plainclothes police in Shanghai also took away activist Shen Yanqiu (沈艳秋) on September 30. Shen, who shaved her head on September 28 and posted a photo of herself online to show solidarity with Hong Kong protestors, is being held in an unknown location.

  • Guangzhou police seized dozens of activists and citizens who gathered in the Martyr Memorial Gardens to show support for the Hong Kong protestors on September 30. While reportedly up to 20 citizens were seized and taken to unknown locations, Huang Minpeng (黄æ•�é¹�) and Liu Hui (刘辉) are confirmed to have been taken to Datang Police Station in Yuexiu District, where they were denied food before being released in the afternoon.

  • Beijing activist Jiang Liuying (姜æµ�勇) reportedly was taken away by police along with his wife, activist Li Dongmei (æ�Žå†¬æ¢…), on September 30, after he had received phone calls from officers looking to question him. He told friends that this may be tied to his expression of support for the Hong Kong protests online.

  • Jiangxi Province police seized activists Song Ningsheng (宋å®�生), Gong Xinhua (龚新å�Ž), and Chen Maosen (陈茂森) on September 30, and searched Song’s house. The three men had posted photos of themselves holding up signs in support of the Hong Kong protests.

  Threats & harassment:

  On September 30, Chongqing national security officers called activist Xie Dan (谢丹) to say they were coming to his home to question him. Chongqing activist Han Liang (韩良) was questioned by police in the early morning of September 30, but has since returned home. Beijing activists Han Ying (韩颖) and Guo Guijun (郭桂军) were both visited by police at their homes late at night on September 30. Police demanded entry but did not show any proper documentation and threatened to take them into custody, since the activists refused to open their doors. Their fate remains unclear at the time of this report. In addition, national security officers from Changyuan County in Henan Province threatened democracy activist Guo Chunping (郭春平) after he sent a message on WeChat, a Chinese text messaging platform, in support of Hong Kong on September 29. An officer called Guo and said he would be in danger if he didn’t answer her questions.[1]

  

  Activist Song Ningsheng (宋�生) of Jiangxi Province was taken away by police for holding up signs in support of the Hong Kong protests. (Image: CRLW)

  China should just disappear from the face of the earth.    What they are doing is disgusting and against human right.

• SJS6638

  7 Oct 14, 07:06

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/10/occupy_central_s_polite_protesters_the_hong_kong_demonstrators_are_disciplined.html

   

  The World’s Politest Protesters

  
  

  The Occupy Central demonstrators are courteous. That’s actually what makes them so dangerous.

  By Srdja Popovic and Tori Porell

  Hong Kong student protesters help recycle garbage during a quiet moment at the protest site on Oct. 1, 2014, in Hong Kong.

   

  TThe protest movement that has sprung to life in Hong Kong now represents the most serious challenge to Beijing’s authority since the Tiananmen protests of 1989. Beijing is obviously worried: Earlier this week it banned the photo-sharing site Instagram and ramped up censorship on the popular Chinese social media site Sina Weibo to unprecedented levels. 

  But while the threat to Beijing’s power is real, the danger isn’t evident on Hong Kong streets: Rather than presenting scenes of smashed shops or violent confrontations with the police—the sort of images we have grown accustomed to in Cairo, Ukraine, and other sites of popular protests against oppressive regimes—the photos from central Hong Kong show smiling students sitting around doing their homework, passing out donations of food, and meticulously picking up litter—even sorting out the recyclables. What, then, is different about these Hong Kong demonstrators? And how might their almost exaggerated politeness help them against the notoriously severe Chinese Communist Party?

  The answers to these questions can be found in the appropriately titled “Manual of Disobedience.” Published online several days before the Occupy Central campaign was set to begin, the document (written in Chinese and English) is part how-to guide and part philosophical mission statement. It details the movement’s tactics, the rules for nonviolent protest, the legal codes that may be violated, and the exact procedure to follow should someone be arrested. It also implores protesters to “avoid physical confrontation, but also to avoid developing hatred in [their] heart,” and explains that the protests must be a model of the values that they are striving to see in their society, namely “equality, tolerance, love, and care.” The protesters understand that these values will not only help win over sympathizers, but lay bare the illegitimacy of the regime if it moves against them with excessive force. These aren’t youthful idealists; these are savvy political operators who understand the secrets of successful nonviolent resistance.

  The proof of this fact is playing out in the streets of Hong Kong right now. After the protesters’ first attempt to block the financial district was met with volleys of teargas from riot police, the people in the street did not fight back, leaving society shocked and emboldened by the authorities’ outrageous use of force. The next day, thousands more people turned up with signs supporting the students, condemning police tactics, and calling for the resignation of Hong Kong leader C.Y. Leung. Although it may seem obvious that a protest movement must win popular support to combat oppression, it is no easy feat, and something we have seen movements in dozens of countries fail to accomplish. The staunch adherence to nonviolence Occupy Central has demonstrated takes preparation, training, and discipline—a combination that’s very rare for many movements.

  Most of the time, organizers aren’t prepared to handle the crowds that surge into the streets, and with no way to maintain calm and cohesion, too many movements have been derailed by a few thrown rocks or smashed storefronts. Governments seize on the smallest acts of disorder or violence as excuses to crack down. However, Occupy Central’s organizers seem to have come prepared. By issuing the manual and attempting to train their activists, they have maintained a united front and warded off the pitfalls that plague too many social movements.

  If, as many people fear, mainland authorities crack down Tiananmen-style, the training and the discipline the protesters have displayed will serve them well, galvanizing support and isolating the Chinese authorities. On the other hand, if Beijing realizes the dilemma it faces, it will have no choice but to negotiate with Hong Kong’s protest leaders, a show of weakness that may ultimately inspire more yearning for democracy and even further protests. For now, while it is amusing to watch the most polite protesters in the world keeping up with their schoolwork and keeping the streets clean, their politeness actually demonstrates why they have become such a powerful force to reckon with.No one has a crystal ball for knowing what Beijing will do next. Right now the government appears to be set to try to wait the protesters out, hoping that their presence and the disruption of daily life will eventually alienate the movement from wider society. However, Occupy Central has positioned itself well, almost no matter the outcome.

   

  Hong Kong does not fit in to be part of china.   They are so different from china.    

• BanguIzai

  7 Oct 14, 16:12

  Yes, I agree.

  Many China citizens whom are able to access Facebook outside of China (be they studying in US and Australia, or overseas working, or recent immigrants) support Hong Kong and Taiwan for their pro-democracy movements more than China when they only could see manufactured news from one-sided China's Official Xinhua News Agency.

  Many Chinese citizens also know that, while the citizens are unable to access many websites, however the top officials are allowed to access them freely. Therefore causing citizens to rant that �許州官放�，�准百姓點燈 attitude accorded differently to government and those of the normal citizens.

  Also, Xinhua News Agency has a secret branch that supplies outside news only to top PRC officials, while the rest of the citizens only can read official, amended, beautified, ameliorated, or twisted facts allowed by China's Official Xinhua News Agency.

  All China websites come under strict governance from the government, meaning that, even if only one anti-government comment is found in any websites, it will be deleted as soon as possible. Repeated attempts as such will lead to complete closure of the website, causing heavy losses to the companies. That's why China websites are slow and replete with irritating and forceful advertisements, because when no free competition is allowed with better websites such as Facebook and Google, the citizens have no other choice but stuck with China's official prescribed websites (monopoly).

  Also, it is not difficult to notice that, while "comments" are to be freely found in most Western news media websites, it is starkingly absent in all China news media websites. Reason being obvious enough to any observers. A closed, controlled dynasty, as you said, I agree, a PRC dynasty.