"Enormous" probs if S'poreans don't procreate: LKY
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waste of time!
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okay next time after photshoot i will start production with angel
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In short, we are humans, not machines in a production line
cannot say when want babies will will babies what
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Any new policies to influence birth rate should also include the LTA.
http://sgforums.com/forums/3426/topics/456994?page=1
Otherwise how to fit 2+3+1 into a taxi.
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procreation is not the only issue, but imbalance of gender interests overemphasizing on feministic rights after procreation is the real stupid problem that the system fails to improve...
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thus, more enormous problems arise from an imbalance gender policies leading to much more social responsibilities and liabilities extremely skewed upon the male side while leaving females the much lightened burden and freedom to exploit freely the benefits thrown to them...to the extent for the males to ask:"Why marry?...For whom the marriage is for?"
that is the real big problem
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the national policy to review in the upcoming white paper proposal on low marriage and infertility had better make this segment of imbalance gender interests a study than to avoid it....
u will never resolve the problems by avoiding it...its there....seriously there...
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there was no or minimal reportage on the motives of foreigns marrying our men so as to exploit and enjoy full feministic benefits and rights under our unique women charter...
what has our govt done justice for our singapore men already been biased in favour of the local female population?
Has the govt serioulsy tread on this issue or were they deliberately ignored to put sole focus on alleviating fertilitty rates?
you cannot solve a social psychological issue with econometrics...
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nah nah nah - i only remmebr - we stop at 2
big mistake - final mistake - nomore mistake - the end hahahah
very smart right? not really
i remmber this slogan very clearly in my mind
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waste of time bloody unethical site can een change yhour posting under your nick!
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Talk is cheap.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Talk is cheap.
Of course talk is cheap and a lot of talk and no action is merely cheap drama! So it is important if they think that( birth rate) is critical to address , then they got to walk the talk in their policies all round! -
Seems like it's all left to us from what i can gather here
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Originally posted by Mr Milo:
Seems like it's all left to us from what i can gather here
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@Bike: You are right
Now we do not just follow what govt want
we want to know how favourable it will be for us to have more babies
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i talked to parents also
milk powder and even simple baby pram (at few hundred dollars for 2nd hand) are so ridiculously expensive
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Originally posted by Bikeforceful:
Having babies is one thing but then again almost one in two marriages could end up in divorce. Have we thought thro the social supporting infrastructure and help for such dysfunctional families, when it happens? And it will happen.
To start with it all boils down to how congruent are the aspirations of the government with that of the people? The government wants more numbers. But whatever the justifications, the individual still will look at his own circumstances and his own pockets and bank account, can he afford it he’ll ask himself , is it worth it?Absolutely what i am thinking
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Originally posted by laurence82:
i talked to parents also
milk powder and even simple baby pram (at few hundred dollars for 2nd hand) are so ridiculously expensive
Maybe they expect you to go back to basics-no prams just a sarong hammock hanging from a spring. Only problem, baby's backbone might become curved -"bongkok" -
pram, bro, pram
not cot
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it's warm
warm warm warm
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Does it help to turn a blind eye to what he has done before to get the people to stop at two and push all blame to Singaporeans. Anything they are not happy it is always the fault of the people. Why are we still paying them millions, billions to do their job?
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Originally posted by laurence82:
pram, bro, pram
not cot
' Old time no pram lah! just the hammock - not even cot! no cradle also. -
Originally posted by SJS6638:
Does it help to turn a blind eye to what he has done before to get the people to stop at two and push all blame to Singaporeans. Anything they are not happy it is always the fault of the people. Why are we still paying them millions, billions to do their job?
That is why policies must be thought out very carefully not just adhoc piece meal dealing with the issue. What is decided has a longer term conseqence to everyone's lives. No point turning back the clock. But the citizentry "hopefully" isn't sheep like these days. They are more educated and so can think for themselves. Whichever the government has a more difficult time in persuading and convincing the citizentry these days in any country. It has to determine if its goals represent the goals of the people. If there is ongruence of goals , the persuasion should be easier if accompanied by the right policies. So the question here is : is birth rate really the most crucial issue here?And are they serious enough about this issue in a total concerted effort to tackle the issue? In fact if the conditions are right, why shouldn't married couples want children? But in this modern day and age, if the government is asking that parents have three, four or more kids, and yet live with continued escalating cost, uncertainty about their future and their children's future and unsupportive systems and /or policies, is that logical? -
Recently, it hit me. I must take personal responsibility for the rising tide of xenophobia in Singapore. My life choices have led to the massive influx of foreigners here, which has in turn, resulted in growing anger from locals fearful that they are being squeezed out of their own country. I need to wo-man up and take the blame. Selfish, self-absorbed me. How on earth could I have not realised this? I am nearly 40. And yet I’ve not bothered to get married, let alone reproduce. I’m not doing anything to help boost Singapore’s birthrate. What a waste of an educated, Chinese womb. Women like me have given my government no choice but to resort to desperate measures to salvage what is clearly a dire situation.
“If we go on like this,” warned former Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, “this place will fold up, because there’ll be no original citizens left to form the majority, and we cannot have new citizens, new PRs to settle our social ethos, our social spirit, our social norms.”
Oh, the pressure. Oh, the shame. What’s a girl to do? I’ve always believed my ovaries belonged to me and only me. Never thought they’d ever be expected to perform any sort of national service. Never ever imagined that decisions on procreation would ever be anything other than private. After all, LKY himself has an unmarried daughter. Surely he would understand that some of us don’t want to have it all?