City Harvest church founder Kong Hee and 4 others arrested
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Originally posted by the Bear:
oh I read that. a lot of cb language leh. this author must be an angry person. hehe.
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Originally posted by Bikeforceful:
Agree! liquidate the church and turn the building into an elders care home for the very poorest in society who are now living in JB old age home because they can't afford to stay in nursing homes in Singapura ...our island paradise!wow then it will be a very ah task elder care home wor. hehe
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One word sums it all for Sun Ho: vanity.
Does her faith approve it?
In Christian teachings vanity is considered an example of pride, one of the seven deadly sins. This list evolved from an earlier list of eight sins, which included vainglory as a sin independent of pride. In Orthodox church, vanity is one of eight sinful and diabolical passions, the fight against which is a major task of every Orthodox Christian.
To have so many millions to spend to fulfill her vanity. This is desperate.
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Thu, Jun 28, 2012How did $23 million help advance singer Ho Yeow Sun's music career in the US?
Ho Yeow Sun, 42, popularly known as Sun Ho, is married to Pastor Kong Hee, 45, founder of City Harvest Church. The couple have a 7-year-old son, Dayan.
Kong is currently facing charges of alleged misuse of at least $23 million of church funds to finance his wife's singing career in the US.
A "Crossover Project", started in 2002 by the couple, was set up to use Ho's secular music to connect with people and reach out to non-Christians, local media agencies reported.
Since news of the charges against Kong and four others broke, two of Ho's music videos for dance tracks "China Wine" and "Mr Bill", have been widely circulated on social media.
In comments posted on the videos hosted on YouTube, netizens slammed the videos for its content and Ho's provocative dance moves.
Many questioned how the controversial videos could be "reaching out to non-Christians".
In "China Wine", Ho can be seen gyrating to the music with back-up dancers, dressed in a low-cut, midriff-baring top and micro-shorts.
Ho collaborated with noted rapper-producer Wyclef Jean on both singles.
The singer was based in the US between 2003 and 2010, reported The New Paper, where five of her English singles released made it into the top 10 of Billboard's Hot Dance Club Songs.
But according to a Straits Times on Wednesday, doubts were cast that Ho made it just on talent alone.
One senior music executive interviewed by the paper said the Billboard dance chart is based on airplay and not sales.
"You can just pay to promote yourself to get radio stations to play your songs," said the executive, who remained anonymous.
A director of a record label here estimates that it costs between US$300,000 (S$386,000) and US$1 million to produce an album in the US.
A collaboration with famed producer Wyclef Jean could cost between US$50,000 and US$300,000.
The $23 million that was purportedly used to finance Sun's music career not only gave her four No.1 hits on the Billboard dance charts, an English-language album and slick music videos but also a US$20,000 (S$25,600) a month Hollywood home.
The mansion, nestled in the plush Hollywood Hills district, is where celebrities like Nicky Hilton and singer Leona Lewis have set up home, The New Paper reported. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are also said to own property there.
The New Paper visited the house in June 2010 and reported seeing a black SUV and a black Mercedes Benz CLK550 driving in and out of the estate, which has four buildings in all.
Ho is also known to have uploaded videos of her personal life in the US on her official website.
The videos posted included those of her spending time with her five-year-old son Dayan at Manhattan Beach, her relief work in Haiti after the earthquake and picking up US$217 worth of groceries from Whole Foods Market, a natural and organic food store.
Besides drawing flak for her music videos and lifestyle, Ho was also criticised on many occasions for her fasion sense.
In 2010, she was criticised for showing too much skin in a black cut-out Rodarte dress at the Grammy awards.
Comments on her dress from online communities ran the spectrum from “bad taste”, “too SM (sadomasochistic)” to “skanky”.
In November 2003, she set tongues wagging when she wore a daring red Armani gown – with a plunging neckline – to the Hollywood Film Festival in Los Angeles.
At the 2006 Global Music Awards held in Singapore, she was criticised again for turning up in a short grey-black dress that barely covered her buttocks.
Ho first entered the music scene in 2002 as a Mandarin artiste, when she released her debut album, Sun With Love.
She also won the Singapore Hit Awards in 2003 and 2004 for two of her Mandarin albums, Sun*Day and Lonely Travel. -
A "Crossover Project", started in 2002 by the couple, was set up to use Ho's secular music to connect with people and reach out to non-Christians, local media agencies reported. ==================================== chc members actually believe in the above???? its unbelievable!!!!
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He dared to ask about use of church funds 10 years ago
Almost 10 years ago, Mr Roland Poon dared to ask whether City Harvest Church was using church funds to fund Ho Yeow Sun's music career.
The question resulted in him having to make a public apology to the church in January 2003. The then-businessman left City Harvest soon after.
Now, the charges filed against five City Harvest church members seem to have vindicated Mr Poon's actions.
When The Straits Times visited Mr Poon's house on Wednesday evening, his daughter said the 62-year-old was out of town on a mission trip.
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the things about CHC members is that they are already very much brain washed to still have any objective truth in the things that are being placed right infront of them to see. Which is why we still see ppl supporting mr Kong
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city harvest church is even more dangerous and insidious than I thought.
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but come to think of it... kong hee mus be so damn charismatic that he is able to brain wash such a large number of ppl
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the POON fella who questioned and had to apologise should be compensated now. The courts should award him compensation and penalty paid out of the 5 individuals personal assets!
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why must good people who dare to question suffer a tthe hands of vile collaborators???
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Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:
but come to think of it... kong hee mus be so damn charismatic that he is able to brain wash such a large number of ppl
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Originally posted by Bikeforceful:
the POON fella who questioned and had to apologise should be compensated now. The courts should award him compensation and penalty paid out of the 5 individuals personal assets!
I can't wait to see CHC apologise to Roland Poon.
If they don't, we the members of the public should assert pressure on them, until a public apology is issued.
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He is able to brainwash those more naive, gullible and simple minded people.
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Originally posted by dragg:
this i have no doubt. he is a very good speaker.good speaker or not, the members only have themselves to blame. they are no illiterate kampong kia, why dunno how to discern. God gives them the gift of tongue, but didn't give them the gift of discernment?
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
He is able to brainwash those more naive, gullible and simple minded people.
PAP should fear this person more than they worry about opposition and opponents for his kind of charisma can easily move ppl to turn against govt if he wants to. I'm not saying that he will do it or is doing it. But should he decide to do it, it's just gonna be so easy for him. He is the centre of their life already.
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Originally posted by Honeybunz:
PAP should fear this person more than they worry about opposition and opponents for his kind of charisma can easily move ppl to turn against govt if he wants to. I'm not saying that he will do it or is doing it. But should he decide to do it, it's just gonna be so easy for him. He is the centre of their life already.
whenever it involves religion it gets touchy. its easier said done. -
Originally posted by Honeybunz:
PAP should fear this person more than they worry about opposition and opponents for his kind of charisma can easily move ppl to turn against govt if he wants to. I'm not saying that he will do it or is doing it. But should he decide to do it, it's just gonna be so easy for him. He is the centre of their life already.
no..
the MIW have to worry about people like those who look into the finances of the country and found severe discrepancies.. but that is another story for another day...
i tend to look upon these people who join the CHC as a darwinian process.. they expose the stupid, the greedy and the charlatans so we can steer clear of them
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Originally posted by Honeybunz:
PAP should fear this person more than they worry about opposition and opponents for his kind of charisma can easily move ppl to turn against govt if he wants to. I'm not saying that he will do it or is doing it. But should he decide to do it, it's just gonna be so easy for him. He is the centre of their life already.
agreed... he does have that charisma to turn ppl against the govt if he wanted to. Somehow he just remove how these ppl are supposedly able to discern fact. I guess he plays into the weakness of most ppl where they need some form of emotional support.It would be great to see them apologise to roland poon
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Originally posted by Paem:
Aiya, Bo nang a tai chi nang Mai chap.
Yi nang ai si nang Mai ho ee si meh?
Yes, you are right. Chinese says 下错注，输一次，跟错人，输一世. If only donate money, then can prosper. Then, the poor will forever be poor. Let me share what I've learnt from the temples. A smile, kind words, politeness are also part of donations, not just money. If you hear someone keeps preaching about $$$, something is very wrong already liao.
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
He is able to brainwash those more naive, gullible and simple minded people.
The more eloquent some one is the more we gort to be careful about the person. He was vile enough to recruit people of low intelligence and discernment to be his kakis...give them a bit of recognition and semblance of power and you've got their undying loyalty....what a vile fella. The very moment they said his wife made it as a singer etc I knew something was really wrong...When some one uses God to be his shield to deceive....well there are a lot of gullible people out there who continuously need affirmation and assurance from some kind of leader or so...I always believe if you believe in GOD- speak to him directly- if he answers you -good for you! But you don't need some two bit intermediary- if there is a God. -
Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:
agreed... he does have that charisma to turn ppl against the govt if he wanted to. Somehow he just remove how these ppl are supposedly able to discern fact. I guess he plays into the weakness of most ppl where they need some form of emotional support.It would be great to see them apologise to roland poon
This is the problem with the Courts..where is the redress? Even in Durai's case two or more people had been sued by him earlier and had to apologise etc...what happened- no redress! If there is no redress and people have to suffer for being upright and daring to question wrong doing, it iis just bloody unfair! As i said, why should good people suffer at the hands of vile people without redress??? With the power of a coporation and the goondu system sometimes even "big guns" supporting them behind them = they persecute the individuals who saw thro their scam! This is the realism of life - can you blame people sometimes for simply bochap and walk away ? There must be some justice for people wrongly persecuted! -
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Some of his supporters damn scary.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Some of his supporters damn scary.
It's got to a point of fanaticism and these people call him the anointed one etc. If I were the government, anyone who dares form his henchmen at Court premise to interrupt the course of justice , obstruct and retard reporters doing their duties, get ten "red squad" cars, lock them all up at Changi and give them a proper water cannon treatment plus psychological rehabilitation to wake them up good and proper. The thing about this is that the authorities tend to look upon this as a "religious " issue/matter and thus a sensitive issue. It ISN"T ! Any logical right thinking individual whether Christian or not will understand this fell a is a scumbag!. It's a a cult idolisation of a scumbag.