Why more migrants needed in S'pore
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SINGAPORE: Another study has been released in support of Singapore's need to attract new migrants to slow down the impact of an ageing and dwindling population.
Released by the Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), the report is the first to take into account the country's non-resident population.
This includes those on work permits, long-term social visit passes and foreign students.
In its report, the institute sets out three scenarios.
One, where the proportion of foreigners remains at 25 per cent (or one in four) of the total population.
Two, where this proportion drops to 20 per cent (or one in five).
And three, where the proportion is raised to 33 per cent (or one in three).
For all scenarios, it is assumed that Singapore will take in 30,000 new citizens or Permanent Residents every year, and the country's Total Fertility Rate remains at 1.24
The report states that a higher non-resident population will mean a larger total population, from the current 5 million now to 6.8 million in 2030, if the proportion of foreigners in the population is raised to 33 per cent.
And while the average population will still get older, a higher proportion of non-residents will slow this process down.
The same is said for the support ratio between a working adult and an elderly.
While the ratio will still decline, with more foreigners in the midst, the impact will be somewhat mitigated.
Assuming the country's Total Fertility Rate remains at 1.24 and it brings in 30,000 new citizens or PRs yearly with non-residents, the support ratio now for every one elderly aged 65 and above to a working adult is 1:10.3.
In about 20 years, this will be halved at 1:5.1, if foreigners make up 33 per cent of the population.
If Singapore takes in no immigrants, there will be only about two working adults supporting each elderly person, by then.
So, even with more foreigners in the mix, there will be fewer Singaporeans supporting the elderly.
But the paper shows that the problem is exacerbated without taking in migrants.
With or without foreigners, the labour force will be hit.
Even with the bumped-up crop of foreigners, the report shows the growth in total labour force will dip from the average 3.6 per cent annual growth which Singapore has been enjoying since the 70s.
With the current proportion of one in four foreigners in the midst, the labour force will grow by 1.04 per cent over the next 10 years.
Raising the proportion to one in three will see the labour force grow to 2.47 per cent annually, over the same period.
The IPS report comes just a week after a similar paper was issued by the National Population and Talent Division.
Both papers present population projections based on certain assumption and are not meant to be forecasts or predictions.
Together, the reports will form the basis of a national discussion on populations issues that will culminate in a White Paper to be released by the end of the year.
The White Paper on Population will set out issues important to Singaporeans and map out strategies for a sustainable population.
This will cover areas such as housing, transport and land use.
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In its report, the institute sets out three scenarios. One, where the proportion of foreigners remains at 25 per cent (or one in four) of the total population.
Really 1 in 4 now? Or 3.7 mil (inclusive 300K) citizen vs 1.3 mil FT?
The report states that a higher non-resident population will mean a larger total population, from the current 5 million now to 6.8 million in 2030, if the proportion of foreigners in the population is raised to 33 per cent.
Ok, whatever. It's daft people's business.
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Originally posted by alize:
In its report, the institute sets out three scenarios. One, where the proportion of foreigners remains at 25 per cent (or one in four) of the total population.
Really 1 in 4 now? Or 3.7 mil (inclusive 300K) citizen vs 1.3 mil FT?
The report states that a higher non-resident population will mean a larger total population, from the current 5 million now to 6.8 million in 2030, if the proportion of foreigners in the population is raised to 33 per cent.
Ok, whatever. It's daft people's business.
Accord to our elites, PR = SG citizens, thus the 3.7 million citizens is actually Lesser Mortals + PR, assume 1.5 million is PR, then number of Lesser Mortals is 2.2 million and FT is 2.8 millions. Of cos you can try to base on different figures of PR to get different ratio. But my guess is number of Lesser Mortals is abt the same figures of PR + foreigners in SG. But again accord to our elites, the figures is highly important to national security (did heard the elites mention once), thus lesser mortals shld not know the actual figures. -
spore needs more migrant suckers?i dun think even those poor somalis or sudanese can take PAP policy after a day.what bout the malaysians?think they all immigrated to oz already after a generation.the indonesians??mass riot and flaming orchard towers!the indians...think they also damn tulan....the china peem.ople??think they show finger also.
so who are these 300,000 people who spore badly needs?i think they should be the worlds richest and elite people all immigrate to spore?but then the world has many other countries like switzerland and canada!they dont need to come to crowded spore!it will scare them.
think its fat chance for spore to have people if the countries all know what spore life is!
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wat is the purpose of havin more pop ? power greed?
LHLhas totally lost his focus
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if you dun agree with him, make sure your vote counts on election day
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YES and bring more mid 30s single migrant men to come to work. Soon even the Banglas can steal jobs and Sg girls from Poly flunks like Xiao P.
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Sorry.
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*facepalm* how did sinkapore ever end up in this kinda plight?
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
*facepalm* how did sinkapore ever end up in this kinda plight?
How to grow gdp?
How?
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I think population will go up to 6 million soon.
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By 2016.
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By election, will they still tell you they need 6 or 8 million population ?
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
*facepalm* how did sinkapore ever end up in this kinda plight?
Plight?
Sg is damn happening now.
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More migrants are needed to perpertuate their Rule and dominance of it's citizen .
Depressing wages - just like blood sport games to distract us allowing the under privelege to fight amongst themselves .
Thinking us to be fools .
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Originally posted by Watchmansg1:
More migrants are needed to perpertuate their Rule and dominance of it's citizen .
Depressing wages - just like blood sport games to distract us allowing the under privelege to fight amongst themselves .
Thinking us to be fools .
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Singapore so small, how much more can they flood the island before things start to get worse?
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
*facepalm* how did sinkapore ever end up in this kinda plight?
Sinkapore has the Sickaporeans to blame for giving the PaPigs the mandate to do what they want.
Within what I can do I shall not employ any of these Sickaporeans, hope these Sickaporeans kena replace by foreigners. hahahahahahahah, real shiok if they be replaced by foreigners, let them have a taste of their own medicine.
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The concern I have is the pace of infrastructure maintenance and upgrading will not match the growth of population. No one in government is offering mitigations as yet...
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
The concern I have is the pace of infrastructure maintenance and upgrading will not match the growth of population. No one in government is offering mitigations as yet...
dun think they will stop till they get 80% of the votes
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Everyone grows old until they stop. Simple inevitability.
Unless presented with statistics of the aged and what is currently being done to "support", what I see is only the marketing of fear on growing old to sell immigrants.Seriously, look around for old people. Scavengers, janitors, cleaners, nuseries with whatever pathetic grants they give to the aged needy now. If their numbers are found not many, means we don't have a problem of old age from a shrinking population. If the numbers are found to be numerous, means there are more need to be done socially, not economically as its been said that our economy is doing great.
Thats my bloody 5 cents worth.....
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sadly elections is the time to let them wake up their idea. but we have to wait. next show is hougang. the residence theremust vote not only for what the party can do. but they must vote for a significant. they must knwo that its tthe oppositions only hope and to show them whites that resitence is still very alife.
we want permanent solutions, not makeshift ones, just like an ostrich oke head in the ground and make believe everythign sigonna be allright
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Seriously... JAPAN NEED TO IMPORT MANY MANY MANY MILLIONS OF FOREIGNERS BECAUSE OF THEIR POPULATION ISSUES... WHY THEY NEVER DO THAT??? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
sadly elections is the time to let them wake up their idea. but we have to wait. next show is hougang. the residence theremust vote not only for what the party can do. but they must vote for a significant. they must knwo that its tthe oppositions only hope and to show them whites that resitence is still very alife.
we want permanent solutions, not makeshift ones, just like an ostrich oke head in the ground and make believe everythign sigonna be allright
the latest survey shows, there are about 60% brainless people. -
they are faster - especially when driving a red ferrari