Teacher leaves harsh comment for Pri 1 boy
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does the teacher expect the poor boy to know what is horrendous
when i was in primary 5, I dunno what alegebra was, much less horrendous? I should know horibble
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
does the teacher expect the poor boy to know what is horrendous
when i was in primary 5, I dunno what alegebra was, much less horrendous? I should know horibble
, the
next closest word to horrendous....horibble...
教�严，师之过
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I was a primary school student before. I dun think these teachers know how to teach. they teach is due to money, not passion. not to say there are no good teachers in neighbour hood schools, but they are few and far between. the good teachers are all at the elite schools. they usually vent their anger on these poor kids, who will be singapore's future when they grow up. why the teachers are angry? long hours in school and at home, marking homework, CCA and preparing materials other ad hoc things at school, leaving little time for them to do outside of work.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
does the teacher expect the poor boy to know what is horrendous
when i was in primary 5, I dunno what alegebra was, much less horrendous? I should know horibble
, the
next closest word to horrendous.It is intended for the parents to read lah. Just like back then your parents will ask you why got a "see me" comment in your spelling book. haha.
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Education is not merely a system... it SHOULD be a way of life...
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Originally posted by deathmaster:
It is intended for the parents to read lah. Just like back then your parents will ask you why got a "see me" comment in your spelling book. haha.
hahaha come on the student is a primary 1 kid. when i was in primary 1, i dun recall seeing this comments lol. most likely I didnt care or didnt even realised the teacher wrote comments on the workbook lol. but when I was in sec 1, my form teacher wrote about my handwriting, saying very messy, but hey do I care? no I dun hahaha
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
I was a primary school student before. I dun think these teachers know how to teach. they teach is due to money, not passion. not to say there are no good teachers in neighbour hood schools, but they are few and far between. the good teachers are all at the elite schools. they usually vent their anger on these poor kids, who will be singapore's future when they grow up. why the teachers are angry? long hours in school and at home, marking homework, CCA and preparing materials other ad hoc things at school, leaving little time for them to do outside of work.
quite true and true.
But I think that there are more good teachers around in neighbourhood schools than you think. It is just that alot of them most likely become demoralised by many factors like student attitude, red tape and unreasonable/uncooperative parents.
in elite schools, students are already smart, come from rich/well-to-do families, can afford to have tuition, and thus do well as expected. So cannot say that elite school teachers are confirm good.
In fact, I think neighborhood sch teachers are the most impressive, given the frequency of news reports of success stories, where the teacher inspire XYZ problem student into top scorers for PSLE, o lvl, a lvl etc.
If a teacher can achieve such "miracles" for XYZ student, then clearly, he is a good teacher, and those students who did poorly under that teacher only have themselves to blame.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
hahaha come on the student is a primary 1 kid. when i was in primary 1, i dun recall seeing this comments lol. most likely I didnt care or didnt even realised the teacher wrote comments on the workbook lol. but when I was in sec 1, my form teacher wrote about my handwriting, saying very messy, but hey do I care? no I dun hahaha
haha. handwriting up to student to improve lah.
I also got that problem, guess that's why i didn't do so well in essay exams last time.
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#29, #32, #44, #46, #48 - it is a rather annoying reality that the quality of discussion here is beyond help. There are simply too many vague assertions and moronic gibberish flying in from all corners for a meaningful exchange to even take place... no wonder some had to cope using sardonic humor.
*tiptoes and leaves the thread*
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in short. stop being overly protective!!
many from the older generation have experienced much worser treatment and grew up just fine. take it as part and parcel of growing up.
its not easy being a teacher with overly protective parents kpkbing over every single matter.
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Originally posted by deathmaster:
I heard of people who improved their student's grades from 20/100 to 40/100, an increase of 50%, but so what? still considered fail.
That’s either an increase of 20% or 100%, depending on whether you’re speaking in absolute or relative terms. Now we can get bogged down in specifics and achieve nothing, but what say you we move on to the underlying issues here?
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Originally posted by soleachip:
It is unfortunate – the incompetence of all agents responsible for education.
I’d say “all” would be inaccurate. One business stream I work with is education, in particular assessing and improving school effectiveness. Typical of schools that we work with, you’d have the leadership team plus a few enthusiastic teachers leading the charge, some ambivalent staff members and a few, say 20-30%, who go out of their way to avoid raising their game. The ones who are interested in effectiveness focus upon ways of improving performance. That last 20-30%, on the other hand, waste their breath and everybody's time listing out all of the difficult things about their jobs (inattentive kids, parents not doing what teachers are paid to do, etc.) and personify the old saying, “those who can, do; those who can’t, teach”.
One of the sad realities of management is that there are almost always going to be a few people who drag their heels. Some come to the party after you’ve read the riot act to them, and for the others, the only thing to do is carry out a mercy killing and call it performance management. Some performance-focussed sectors (aerospace and finance are good) get with the program, probably as a matter of surviving against the competition, while others like education seem content to carry a certain proportion of dead weight. Sadly, there are still a number of idiots out there who still see teaching as an iron rice bowl, and believe they have the right to continue collecting their pay while applying a misguided cookie-cutter approach to their jobs instead of taking the trouble to understand what they are there to achieve.
So, we get to the obvious point here: what can be done in this situation? Well, it’s not going to take too much tea-leaf reading to see that this teacher is simply not receiving support from her colleagues. After all, barring career-ending enmity, who would allow a colleague to place such grievously stupid comments on something to be handed to a student, and in turn to the student’s parents? If she’s going off doing such dumb things, I’d say that she’s unlikely to be mature enough to confer with her colleagues about the best means of getting students’ attention and motivating them. That being the case, and seeing as how a certain proportion of the staff needs to be spoonfed, the school’s leaders might be best off putting a peer review and feedback process into place. If the lagging staff members still don’t raise their game, it’s time to clear out some dead wood, employment arrangements permitting. -
both teacher and mother so bo liao....
surely if u want to teach the kid properly, surely this is not the method. the mother so bo liao go take photo and stomp it.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
I’d say “all” would be inaccurate. One business stream I work with is education, in particular assessing and improving school effectiveness. Typical of schools that we work with, you’d have the leadership team plus a few enthusiastic teachers leading the charge, some ambivalent staff members and a few, say 20-30%, who go out of their way to avoid raising their game. The ones who are interested in effectiveness focus upon ways of improving performance. That last 20-30%, on the other hand, waste their breath and everybody's time listing out all of the difficult things about their jobs (inattentive kids, parents not doing what teachers are paid to do, etc.) and personify the old saying, “those who can, do; those who can’t, teach”.
One of the sad realities of management is that there are almost always going to be a few people who drag their heels. Some come to the party after you’ve read the riot act to them, and for the others, the only thing to do is carry out a mercy killing and call it performance management. Some performance-focussed sectors (aerospace and finance are good) get with the program, probably as a matter of surviving against the competition, while others like education seem content to carry a certain proportion of dead weight. Sadly, there are still a number of idiots out there who still see teaching as an iron rice bowl, and believe they have the right to continue collecting their pay while applying a misguided cookie-cutter approach to their jobs instead of taking the trouble to understand what they are there to achieve.
So, we get to the obvious point here: what can be done in this situation? Well, it’s not going to take too much tea-leaf reading to see that this teacher is simply not receiving support from her colleagues. After all, barring career-ending enmity, who would allow a colleague to place such grievously stupid comments on something to be handed to a student, and in turn to the student’s parents? If she’s going off doing such dumb things, I’d say that she’s unlikely to be mature enough to confer with her colleagues about the best means of getting students’ attention and motivating them. That being the case, and seeing as how a certain proportion of the staff needs to be spoonfed, the school’s leaders might be best off putting a peer review and feedback process into place. If the lagging staff members still don’t raise their game, it’s time to clear out some dead wood, employment arrangements permitting.Ya, i agree with you that there are alot of such lagging staff members around putting a bad name to the profession.
2 points to raise here:
1) There is already such a process in place, as common in the civil service. But it is precisely this program which is obstructing efficiency, since the performance review follows a bell curve, and the current situation seems that this system favors the laojiaos. The newbies can only suck thumb and wait for their "turn" for better grades and subsequent promotion.
2) yes, dead wood should be cleared out. but can school administrators afford to let their staff go, regardless of how ineffective they are? To become a teacher requires specialised training, which takes time and money, and clearly, MOE obviously won't spend extra money hiring addition teachers outside their projected figures.
Each year, if you have individuals who voluntarily leave the system, and if you still want to clear out the "dead wood", the school might end up with a shortage of staff, affecting the student-teacher ratio. I don't think not many principals would want to risk that.
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Ah, interesting.
It would be worth looking into what that Bell curve actually measures - if time-in-service is part of the equation, then it would indeed favour the lao jiaos. On the other hand, if the measure is based upon student performance (performance improvements would be a useful component), it might be that the lao jiaos are actually better at teaching. Either that, or they get dibs on the best-performing students for starters.As for clearing out the dead wood, an industrial-relations minefield comes as part of the territory. The iron-rice-bowl club get surprisingly energetic when it looks like that rice bowl's going to be broken after all - too bad they can't apply that energy to their real work (hey, did that just sound like a report card remark?
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drastic measure I've seen is implementing a policy where all long-term
employment contracts were cancelled and replaced by 3-5 year contracts
that involved performance reviews before renewal, accompanied by a
prescribed review system. That upset a lot of teachers, but it sure
gave them a well-deserved wake-up call, and resulted in a significantly
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Good gracious! How can the teacher throw the boy's spelling book onto the floor like that? Then how will the boy understand the word 'horrendous'? That teacher needs to be disciplined and sent for counselling.
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saw this on cvps wall, someone so daring go insult the principal
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
saw this on cvps wall, someone so daring go insult the principal
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Originally posted by Paem:
The school must take action against this student.http://www.facebook.com/pages/Compassvale-Primary/68822585901
yes, this is what i thought about
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Only the parent understand it right... you think the P1 child understand what the teacher write? last time teacher use to hit students once they do something wrong... now days children are overly protected by their parents... chinese say �风得风　�雨得雨...
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Compassvale-Primary/68822585901
yes, this is what i thought about
Wonder how are this people thinking... so young only start to scold teacher wonder what will happen to them next time.... HAIZ....
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teacher PMS?
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Originally posted by Not4rent:
teacher PMS?
some male teachers also very easily agitated