DPM Teo on S'poreans emigrating
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
why developed country no isd?
u not scared of terrorist?
Scared ? Not really. We don't need ISD to defend against terrorism. The way I see it, ISD is merely just the government's (PAP's) secret police force.
Got SWAT can already. Remember the hijacking of the SG passenger plane last time ? That's what I'm talking about. Hahaha
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Originally posted by Aero7:
Scared ? Not really. We don't need ISD to defend against terrorism. The way I see it, ISD is merely just the government's (PAP's) secret police force.
Got SWAT can already. Remember the hijacking of the SG passenger plane last time ? That's what I'm talking about. Hahaha
SWAT?
SWAT the fly?
if isd was the secret police of pap(which is not really secret), then, our external security agency deals with the movements of pap?
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Originally posted by Aero7:
Oh, right, totally forgot about the FBI and CIA. In that case, the concept of the ISD is prevalent in every major country regardless of status. Cool. Still, at least the FBI and CIA serve more purposes than just capturing opposition party members and rivals. In that sense, they are better than the ISD, in my opinion.
CIA gets to deal with aliens leh.
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
CIA gets to deal with aliens leh.
FBI deals with aliens.
Maybe you are too young to remeber the X files.
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Originally posted by charlize:
FBI deals with aliens.
Maybe you are too young to remeber the X files.
i wasn't even born yet.
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
SWAT?
SWAT the fly?
if isd was the secret police of pap(which is not really secret), then, our external security agency deals with the movements of pap?
No lah, read this.
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Originally posted by charlize:
FBI deals with aliens.
Maybe you are too young to remeber the X files.
Awesome show. They just don't do it like they used to eh ? Oh well.
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Originally posted by Aero7:
No lah, read this.
thanks!
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
thanks!
You're welcomed.
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Originally posted by Aero7:
Awesome show. They just don't do it like they used to eh ? Oh well.
The truth is out there.
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Originally posted by charlize:
The truth is out there.
in a planet far far away
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
in a planet far far away
Called USA.
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Damn lot of weird people around.
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Originally posted by Aero7:
Called USA.
i tot its called "planet x"
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Originally posted by charlize:
Damn lot of weird people around.
It's just a matter of perception.
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Originally posted by Summer hill:
i tot its called "planet x"
Planet X is the codename for USA.
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In a separate reply to Opposition MP Sylvia Lim, DPM Teo said that from 2006 to 2010, about 3,000 second generation Permanent Residents who served National Service (NS) subsequently applied for Singapore citizenship.
Sixty of the 3,000 citizenship applications were rejected.
Mr Teo said this was due to the applicant's adverse record, and/or because the applicant did not qualify for citizenship on his own merits.We know second generation PR has to serve NS than apply for citizenship (this, we also know from the Japanese boy with Chinese mother case).
But I find DPM reply, with regards to the above statements, puzzling.
1) Adverse record, we understand. But what he meant by "did not qualify for citizenship on his own merits". They served NS, didn't they? By what merit he was referring to?
2) If they "did not qualify for citizenship on his own merits", why enlisted them for NS in the first place? After serving our NS, these non citizens, if they decide to return, will carry our military secret/installation knowledge back to their original home countries!
3) What has been happening to these 60 persona non-grata so far? Continue to stay in Singapore and remain as PR? Continue to serve NS(reservist) while remaining as PR? Continue to stay in Singapore and remain as foreigner? Force to surrender PR and return to original country? or ????
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Originally posted by 4sg:
In a separate reply to Opposition MP Sylvia Lim, DPM Teo said that from 2006 to 2010, about 3,000 second generation Permanent Residents who served National Service (NS) subsequently applied for Singapore citizenship.
Sixty of the 3,000 citizenship applications were rejected.
Mr Teo said this was due to the applicant's adverse record, and/or because the applicant did not qualify for citizenship on his own merits.We know second generation PR has to serve NS than apply for citizenship (this, we also know from the Japanese boy with Chinese mother case).
But I find DPM reply, with regards to the above statements, puzzling.
1) Adverse record, we understand. But what he meant by "did not qualify for citizenship on his own merits". They served NS, didn't they? By what merit he was referring to?
2) If they "did not qualify for citizenship on his own merits", why enlisted them for NS in the first place? After serving our NS, these non citizens, if they decide to return, will carry our military secret/installation knowledge back to their original home countries!
3) What has been happening to these 60 persona non-grata so far? Continue to stay in Singapore and remain as PR? Continue to serve NS(reservist) while remaining as PR? Continue to stay in Singapore and remain as foreigner? Force to surrender PR and return to original country? or ????
No idea why even when you serve NS, they don't grant you citizenship.
Won't that piss you off if you were a PR?
As though you just wasted 2 years of your life for nothing.
Even worse than those who are Sg citizens since they have a moral obligation.
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Originally posted by charlize:
No idea why even when you serve NS, they don't grant you citizenship.
Won't that piss you off if you were a PR?
As though you just wasted 2 years of your life for nothing.
Even worse than those who are Sg citizens since they have a moral obligation.
I once spoke a China boy doing NS (due to the nature of my job which I wouldn't disclose much.)
Spoke perfect English with Singaporean accent.
Primary educated.
Ex-gang member with gang tattoos all over his body.
Perfect eye-sight, no eye-glasses, strong, tanned, handsome looking.
He grew up here but don't give two hoots about becoming citizen.
Deep in his heart, he knows that if he stays, the most become a hawker or cleaner.
If he returns to China and with his command of English, his daring-do-devil attitude, the roll of dice of maybes are higher over there than here.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
I once spoke a China boy doing NS (due to the nature of my job which I wouldn't disclose much.)
Spoke perfect English with Singaporean accent.
Primary educated.
Ex-gang member with gang tattoos all over his body.
Perfect eye-sight, no eye-glasses, strong, tanned, handsome looking.
He grew up here but don't give two hoots about becoming citizen.
Deep in his heart, he knows that if he stays, the most become a hawker or cleaner.
If he returns to China and with his command of English, his daring-do-devil attitude, the roll of dice of maybes are higher over there than here.
Think China more happening.