Boy, 15, punches teacher in class
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Originally posted by likeyou:
His father is more disgraceful than his son for his remarks.
Yes, if you are one of his relatives reading this, dont you feel shameful for the family?
Btw, we only hear one side of the story, maybe we should hear what the boy want to say and why he punch his teacher??
Yes, I would want to hear his side of the story.
But I would still want him caned and expelled, with a day at Juvenile Court as well.
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Originally posted by despondent:
well, often in life we dont get to hear both sides of the story...newspapers do not always report both sides of the story too...tats why we have so much resentment, bitterness and unfairness in this world...ppl often judge based on one-side of the story leaving one or more parties being unfairly judged...
soooooo... what gives anyone the right to punch someone else?
tell us.. do tell us..
or are you still bearing grudges about being "punished harshly".. pray tell why you were "punished harshly"?
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on a more interesting note, some teachers may choose to settle the case within the class itself...they may let the student choose wad he wants; do punishment in class or be reported to principal and his parents...although some may argue tat this case is too serious to be settled within the class...
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when did i say he had the rite to punch others? i was juz giving a general statement tat often we dont get to hear both sides of the story and hence our judgment may tend to be biased...
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If the school reports to the police, it means the case is very serious. Maybe that boy from 369 gang? His father from 135 gang?
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Originally posted by despondent:
when did i say he had the rite to punch others? i was juz giving a general statement tat often we dont get to hear both sides of the story and hence our judgment may tend to be biased...
we don't..
however, the fact that punching the teacher is already considered assault..
for that, he has no defense whatsoever..
if the teacher swore at him, cursed him, harassed him, belittled him... all these if reported, with his classmates as witnesses, would have caused the teacher his/her job...
there is another side to whatever story it is, but after he assaulted the teacher, it becomes immaterial...
that is the long and short of it...
there is no "mitigating circumstances" here...
and there can be no "mitigating circumstances" to assault...
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School take the right solution to report the case to the police, to have a record in the police log.
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speaking abt mitigating circumstances...i have always wondered if there are for manslaughter out of self-defence...one classic one is if a woman is about to be raped and in the midst of self-defence, she killed the man, will she still be charged for manslaughter and go jail? or she will be acquited? IMHO, she shldnt be punished at all...
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Originally posted by despondent:
speaking abt mitigating circumstances...i have always wondered if there are for manslaughter out of self-defence...one classic one is if a woman is about to be raped and in the midst of self-defence, she killed the man, will she still be charged for manslaughter and go jail? or she will be acquited? IMHO, she shldnt be punished at all...
That's manslaughter.
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the father should be punched with 100% force.
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its just the beginin of juvenile delinquency problems
we will see much more in time to come
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in a modern society, pen is more powerful thana punch. we always go the deplomat way. but when its time to use force, punch real hard.
sadly, the boy has the guts of a warrior but not the brain of a grown up man.
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Originally posted by TIB1167D:
That's manslaughter.
It's self-defence, not manslaughter. -
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=55339819#post55339819
the pic of the Roger smoking.
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20%?
like koi ah, 75%, 50%, 20%
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Provocation is a defence to assault.
Why did the student take a swing at the teacher?
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Originally posted by mancha:
Provocation is a defence to assault.
Why did the student take a swing at the teacher?
Teacher was a WP supporter.
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so is it jail for manslaughter or acquitted for self-defence??? wad can the law say abt tis?
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the pt i am bringing across is this: often the actual situation could be like the one i cited...however, cos we often only noe one side of the story, we end up wif a judgement that may not be fair to both parties...if the judge jail the gal, then isnt he sending across the msg that women shld allow themselves to be raped and dun defend themselves lest they end up killing the guy and get jailed, tarnishing their clean record? if the judge acquit the gal, isnt he sending the msg across that its ok to kill out of self-defence?
we are all imperfect human beings...even the alw is imperfect as its laid down by imperfect humans...in classic cases like the one i cited, there can be no absolute fairness..somebody has to take the blame which sadly i believe will be the gal who will probably be jailed for a short term for manslaughter...however, looking from the gal's perspective, is it fair for her to be jailed???
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Originally posted by despondent:
the pt i am bringing across is this: often the actual situation could be like the one i cited...however, cos we often only noe one side of the story, we end up wif a judgement that may not be fair to both parties...if the judge jail the gal, then isnt he sending across the msg that women shld allow themselves to be raped and dun defend themselves lest they end up killing the guy and get jailed, tarnishing their clean record? if the judge acquit the gal, isnt he sending the msg across that its ok to kill out of self-defence?
we are all imperfect human beings...even the alw is imperfect as its laid down by imperfect humans...in classic cases like the one i cited, there can be no absolute fairness..somebody has to take the blame which sadly i believe will be the gal who will probably be jailed for a short term for manslaughter...however, looking from the gal's perspective, is it fair for her to be jailed???
Self-defence is a form of justifiable homicide not amounting to manslaughter or murder. In other words, the girl in your hypothesis will walk free. -
so that gives ppl the rite to kill out of self-defence?
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our education system probably got flaw. i even begin to feel it. coz i cannot do jobs that a foreign talent can do. where they come from? where they from i bet they have a better education system than me. but sadly its a trend for the middle income and tiertary educated sgreans. they jobs usually are not filled by their equally educated foreign talents, but rather these 'talents' that replaces us are usually of higher education, but drawing a lesser pay. - to support their cheaper better faster motto. now is this fair for sgreans? against an opponent for the same level of job if gahmen allows them with higher education, but drawing cheaper pay to come here then we are all analled screwed!
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Originally posted by despondent:
so that gives ppl the rite to kill out of self-defence?
Well..... in some countries, you can literally get away with shooting an unarmed person if he trespasses on your property. But that's the law. The bigger question is, "What would you be willing to do if someone is about to hurt and kill your family"?Anyway, we're completely off topic on this thread. The situation here might have more to do with provokation and possibly the state of education today.
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its not exactly off topic...i quoted that case cos i wanted to drive hm a pt tat both sides of a story has to be heard b4 a fair enuff judgement can be passed...
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Now is my turn to punch the father in the face but dont worry I will use only 5%
scared he might die with two eyes bulging out of the sockets