Hakka A Post

• BanguIzai

  24 Jun 10, 00:32

  HAKKA CLASS 1001

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU9K6ailRTQ

  Mandarin:  ä½ å–œæ­¡å�ƒä»€éº½ï¼Ÿ
  Hakka:  ä½ å¥½é£Ÿéº½å€‹ï¼Ÿ (nˇ hau siit maË‹ ge)

  Mandarin: �早�
  Hakka: 食� (siit zeuˊ)

  Mandarin: 蔥油餅
  Hakka: è”¥æ²¹é¤… (cungËŠ iuˇ biangË‹)

  Mandarin: 豆漿
  Hakka: 豆奶 (teu nen)

  Mandarin: 真好�
  Hakka: 當好食 (dongËŠ ho siitË‹)

• Clivebenss

  24 Jun 10, 00:36

  sorry dunno.

• BanguIzai

  24 Jun 10, 00:37

  Originally posted by Clivebenss:

  sorry dunno.

  u can go listen to the youtube n learn

• Clivebenss

  24 Jun 10, 00:38

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  u can go listen to the youtube n learn

  no interest.

• BanguIzai

  24 Jun 10, 00:41

  Originally posted by Clivebenss:

  no interest.

  too bad.   Hakka seriously needs a revival in Singapore.

• hasene

  24 Jun 10, 00:44

  Hakka nin.

  oh oh !!

• Clivebenss

  24 Jun 10, 00:45

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  too bad.   Hakka seriously needs a revival in Singapore.

  It hardly heard of even when I was a young boy, so no surprise this language is almost extinct here.

• hasene

  24 Jun 10, 00:47

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  too bad.   Hakka seriously needs a revival in Singapore.

  
  Tell the LKY the hakka this.   

• Whatdatoot

  24 Jun 10, 00:54

  i get to hear it often as my father speaks hakka to uncles

• Clivebenss

  24 Jun 10, 00:56

  Originally posted by Whatdatoot:

  i get to hear it often as my father speaks hakka to uncles

  you can help then?

• BanguIzai

  24 Jun 10, 01:45

  HAKKA CLASS 1002

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaPkC5UU6QM

  Mandarin: 今天想��什麽？
  Hakka: ä»Šæ™¡æ—¥æƒ³é£Ÿéº½å€‹ï¼Ÿ (gimËŠ buËŠ ngitË‹ siongË‹ siit maË‹ ge)

  Mandarin: 肚�餓
  Hakka: 肚飢 (duË‹ giËŠ)

  Mandarin: �中飯
  Hakka: 食� (siit zu)

  Mandarin: �飯
  Hakka: 食飯 (siit fan)

  Mandarin: �麵
  Hakka: 食麵 (siit mien)

  Mandarin: ��
  Hakka: æ��仔細 (anË‹ ziiË‹ se)

• BanguIzai

  3 Jul 10, 00:26

  HAKKA CLASS 1003

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9SYNEJH9pY

  Mandarin: 晚上一起�晚飯好嗎？
  Hakka: æš—晡夜共下食夜好無？ (am buËŠ ia kiung ha siit ia hoË‹ moˇ)

  Mandarin: 加薪
  Hakka: 加薪 (gaËŠ sinËŠ)

  Mandarin: �以嗎
  Hakka: å�šå¾—ç„¡ (zo detË‹ moˇ)

  Mandarin: 飯店
  Hakka: 飯店 (fan diam)

  Mandarin: �廳
  Hakka: é¤�廳 (conËŠ tangËŠ)

• Seowlah

  3 Jul 10, 01:23

  Originally posted by BanguIzai:

  HAKKA CLASS 1001

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU9K6ailRTQ

  Mandarin:  ä½ å–œæ­¡å�ƒä»€éº½ï¼Ÿ
  Hakka:  ä½ å¥½é£Ÿéº½å€‹ï¼Ÿ (nˇ hau siit maË‹ ge)

  Mandarin: �早�
  Hakka: 食� (siit zeuˊ)

  Mandarin: 蔥油餅
  Hakka: è”¥æ²¹é¤… (cungËŠ iuˇ biangË‹)

  Mandarin: 豆漿
  Hakka: 豆奶 (teu nen)

  Mandarin: 真好�
  Hakka: 當好食 (dongËŠ ho siitË‹)

  I speak Hakka but these are not the ways to say these words

  (Mandarin: 真好å�ƒHakka: 當好食 (dongËŠ ho siitË‹), Mandarin: å�ƒæ—©é¤�
  Hakka: 食æœ� (siit zeuËŠ), Mandarin:  ä½ å–œæ­¡å�ƒä»€éº½ï¼ŸHakka:  ä½ å¥½é£Ÿéº½å€‹ï¼Ÿ(nˇ hau siit maË‹ ge) )

  in Hakka in Singapore.

  For mandarin, we can use hanyu pinyi to help us to pronounce the chinese characters from Primary school.

  For Hakka, I learn to speak them by remembering how the elders say them. Is there really a pronounciation system used for Hakka words ?

  For English Language, basically we learnt how to pronounce the English words by remembering how the teachers, news readers say the words.

  There is the international phonetic pronounciation system that can be used to help us to pronounce the English words but strangely the system is not taught to Primary, Secondary and JC students in Singapore. It has been puzzling why is the system not taught to students in Singapore.

   

• BanguIzai

  3 Jul 10, 01:38

  Originally posted by Seowlah:

  I speak Hakka but these are not the ways to say these words in Hakka in Singapore.

  For mandarin, we can use hanyu pinyi to help us to pronounciate the chinese characters from Primary school.

  For Hakka, I learn to speak them by remembering how the elders say them. Is there really a pronounication system used for Hakka words ?

  For English Language, basically we learnt how to pronounicate the English by remembering how the teachers, news readers say the words.

  There is the international phoentic pronounication system that can be used to help us to pronounicate the English words but strangely the system is not taught to Primary, Secondary and JC students in Singapore. It has been puzzling why is the system not taught to students in Singapore.

   

  ya, on top of the above ways, there are the some other ways (like Singaporean) respectively are:

  Mandarin:  ä½ å–œæ­¡å�ƒä»€éº½ï¼Ÿ
  Hakka:  (ngi fon hi sit mak ke)

  Mandarin: �早�
  Hakka: (sit zau)

  Mandarin: 真好�
  Hakka: (hau hau sit)

  Mandarin: ��
  Hakka: (to ts'ia)

  Mandarin: 晚上一起�晚飯好嗎？
  Hakka: (am pu it ha sit ia hau mau)

  etc.

  Generally there originally is many variations of Hakka already, therefore slight different usage of vocabulary and tones. Luckily, the different varieties of Hakka used in Singapore is still mutually intelligible due to large number of ancestors from T'ai Pu ,  Ho P'o  and  Moi Yen.

  The pronunciation scheme used above is exactly from the video clip pronounced.

  Standard Hakka dictionary published in China for the linguists uses the IPA  while  those targetted for the mass literati  uses a modified form of Hanyu Pinyin.   Hakka tools published in Taiwan  tends to use their own haphazard system based on closest approximate pronunciation  or  based on Zhuyin Fuhao.

• BanguIzai

  15 Jul 10, 23:43

  HAKKA CLASS 1004

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leHtEVl0n0

  Mandarin: 這�好�盛喔�
  Hakka: 這�還澎湃喔� (iaˋ conˊ hanˇ pongˊ pai oˊ)

  Mandarin: è±�ç››
  Hakka: æ¾Žæ¹ƒ (pongËŠ pai)

  Mandarin: 雞肉
  Hakka: é›žè‚‰ (gieËŠ ngiukË‹)

  Mandarin: 雞酒
  Hakka: é›žé…’ (gieËŠ ziuË‹)

  Mandarin: 高麗�
  Hakka: 玻璃è�œ (boËŠ liˇ coi)

  Mandarin: 蘿蔔
  Hakka: è˜¿è””ä»” (loˇ pet eË‹)

• BanguIzai

  15 Jul 10, 23:50

  HAKKA CLASS 1005

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm649gaeKTA

  Mandarin: 你好
  Hakka: ä½ å¥½ (ngiˇ hoË‹)

  Mandarin: �飽沒
  Hakka: 食飽å�‚ (siit bauË‹ mangˇ)

  Mandarin: �見
  Hakka: 正來尞 (zang loiˇ liau)

  Mandarin: �天
  Hakka: é€�æ—¥ (dakË‹ ngitË‹)

• BanguIzai

  20 Jul 10, 23:29

  HAKKA CLASS 1008

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_3Et7fG1RM

  Mandarin: 電動
  Hakka: é›»å‹• (tien tung)

  Mandarin: 這真的很好玩
  Hakka: 這正經當好æ�ž (iaË‹ ziin ginËŠ dongËŠ hoË‹ gauË‹)

  Mandarin: 網�
  Hakka: ç¶²ç�ƒ (miongË‹ kiuˇ)

  Mandarin: �齡�
  Hakka: ä¿�齡ç�ƒ (boË‹ linˇ kiuˇ)

• Whatdatoot

  2 Aug 10, 19:47

  like

• BanguIzai

  4 Aug 10, 23:36

  Originally posted by Whatdatoot:

  like

  thanks for the compliment, Whatdatoot

  As what Seowlah said, it doesn't reflect the actual Hakka spoken in Singapore. But well, it's better than nothing. The Hakka in Singapore seriously needs some revival as they are on the verge of dying off already

  Feel free to contribute too =)

• Khowenality

  2 Nov 10, 17:03

  I agree, Hakka in Sg needs revival. Hi everyone, I belongs to the Dabu Hakka group but I guess mine is more towards the Moiyen. Anyway, I used to be good in Hakka dialect when I was much younger but as time goes by, I lost touch with it when opportunity of speaking it got lesser and lesser.

  I understand that Hakka dialect has got 7 different tones, which are 3 more tones than Mandarin. It is not difficutl to find articles on the tones over the Internet but I just couldn't find any audio or video files that teach these tones. I am sure knowing these tones will greatly aid in the learning of Hakka. Would be so glad if someone can point me to a link that has these files:) Thanks!

  One site I find rather useful: http://host.ryjh.tyc.edu.tw/~ryjh088/frame/frame_gau3.htm

• Khowenality

  2 Nov 10, 17:12

  Just wish to share this:)

  I have contacted Nanyang Khek community guild, and Char Yong (Dabu) association Sg, and both replied that they don't provide any courses on Hakka dialect. However, Char Yong did tell me that there would be one coming up soon. Though he didn't say how soon, I left my contact with him, and hopefully the association would call me up in no time notifying me of the course details. Would sure to update when that happens:)

• BanguIzai

  9 Jan 11, 21:42

  Originally posted by Khowenality:

  I agree, Hakka in Sg needs revival. Hi everyone, I belongs to the Dabu Hakka group but I guess mine is more towards the Moiyen. Anyway, I used to be good in Hakka dialect when I was much younger but as time goes by, I lost touch with it when opportunity of speaking it got lesser and lesser.

  I understand that Hakka dialect has got 7 different tones, which are 3 more tones than Mandarin. It is not difficutl to find articles on the tones over the Internet but I just couldn't find any audio or video files that teach these tones. I am sure knowing these tones will greatly aid in the learning of Hakka. Would be so glad if someone can point me to a link that has these files:) Thanks!

  One site I find rather useful: http://host.ryjh.tyc.edu.tw/~ryjh088/frame/frame_gau3.htm

  We should help each other in helping to continue the dialects.

  Only minority Hakka not usually found in Singapore has 7 tones, whereas usual Dabu Hakka & Moiyen Hakka have 6 tones.

  Hope you are able to pursue your Hakka courses at the associations and update us when that happens.

• BanguIzai

  24 Mar 11, 23:22

  HAKKA CLASS 1009

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM4qYpuqmAQ

  你什麼較候較有空

  Mandarin: 好無�
  Hakka: 當無� (dongˊ vuˇ liauˇ)

  Mandarin: 看電影
  Hakka: çœ‹é›»å½± (kon tien iangË‹)

  Mandarin: 游泳
  Hakka: æ³…æ°´ (ciuˇ suiË‹)

  Mandarin: 你什麽時候較有空
  Hakka: 你麼個時節較有閒 (nˇ maË‹ ge siiˇ zietË‹ ka iuËŠ hanˇ)

  Mandarin: 星期六晚上
  Hakka: 拜六暗晡 (bai liukË‹ am buËŠ)

• BanguIzai

  3 Apr 11, 17:02

  HAKKA CLASS 1010

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2LX1bbS3E4

  好久�見你好嗎

  Mandarin: 好久�見，你好嗎 ？
  Hakka: æ��久無看著，你好無？ (anË‹ giuË‹ moˇ konËŠ do, ngiˇ hoË‹ moˇ)

  Mandarin: 辭�
  Hakka: è¾­é ­è·¯ (ciiˇ teuˇ lu)

  Mandarin: 生�
  Hakka: 生ç�† (senËŠ liËŠ)

  Mandarin: 有空
  Hakka: 有閒 (iuËŠ hanˇ)