M113 (ULTRA) 40/50
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Jettison drill....no worries.
There's overturn drill too rite. I'm in an armoured unit but not armour trained though. -
I am from 6th mono "C" coy............Anything will happen......Even though a simple task as cleaning the weapon also can land some service men in the hospital.......Been an NSF, must pay 101% attention to make sure you and your buddy are safe..........
Whether is there alot of accident in the past, we all heard from those warrents officers etc..........Real or not....don t know...
But if your pay attention to jettyson exercise, those warrants will alway burn some "PAPER MONEY"......... -
Does Armour still observe "Armour black day" now? Think the day is somewhere around this period of time ...Originally posted by MGGUN:I am from 6th mono "C" coy............Anything will happen......Even though a simple task as cleaning the weapon also can land some service men in the hospital.......Been an NSF, must pay 101% attention to make sure you and your buddy are safe..........
Whether is there alot of accident in the past, we all heard from those warrents officers etc..........Real or not....don t know...
But if your pay attention to jettyson exercise, those warrants will alway burn some "PAPER MONEY"......... -
what is that?
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Is like an unlucky to those guys in amour...This day, no training or any servicing..........I knew it when as my SC told me....But in the end of the day, training and servicing still continue......what to do........
When I was in for the 7 days outfield in tekong, my PC say no training must be conducted on thursday night, but same thing, he make us walk through the vegetation alone, one by one........100m apart........
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Tragic man... Was it featured in the news?Originally posted by blitzonic:Humour aside, I've seen first-hand how surprisingly flimsy the M113 armor was during the mid-80s -- dunno if they've upgraded it since. One of my BTY detachments was wiped out (1 dead, 4 casualties, only the driver unhurt) due to a M203 round which the dead guy supposedly found & concealed after a live-firing EX. The damage to the vehicle -- it'd accidentally detonated from inside -- was quite devastating. -
It is not a tank, and neither is it used as armoured transport. The conventional sense of APC is basically a battle taxi, to transport troops. However, our M113s have been upgraded in a manner that would be more appropriately terms an AFV - Armoured Fighting Vehicle (or IFV).Originally posted by Jp1:I am supposed to drive this vehicles.
I have some question to ask as i am newbie on this vehicles.
-Is this a Tank or something like a vehicles that carry people ?
-Is the interior really so hot that driver like me will get heat-stroke?
-Is is true that is will topple over very easy when traveling in uneven ground?
-Is the the most lousy vehicles left in SAF?
-Is the Maintenance very troublesome?
Thank you if u have any answer to those question
This means that the vehicle actually plays a crucial role in combat, as compared to just a transport vehicle.
Erm, its not that hot. You will get used to it.
No it will not topple easily, if you are just using uneven ground as a factor. The risk is high when on steep slopes at high speed. Other than that, vehicle overturns are far and beyond.
It is definitely not one of the lousiest vehicles. It is highly efficient and performs certain roles that the Bionix cannot cover.
Maintenance wise, it really depends on the vehicle. Some ultras are really troublesome but overall maintenance is not more compared to other armoured vehicles. I believe that the SM1-AMX13 is actually more trouble prone. -
Armour has had a few sad incidents in the past. Ask any Armour encik, he can tell you more..
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some say the armour TSR is formed and revised based of many these incidents.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Armour has had a few sad incidents in the past. Ask any Armour encik, he can tell you more..
really hope tat the infantry can learn from armour lor... -
I also not too sure about this Armour black day thing but when I'm in Armour, this day was quite notorious ... it is something related to accidents resulting in injuries/deaths on this particular date that happen consecutively over a period of years ... that to be "pan-tang", on this day, no outfield training with vehicles are plan for all Armour units ...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Armour has had a few sad incidents in the past. Ask any Armour encik, he can tell you more..
I heard of it from my brother when he served in Armour back in the early 80s. -
early 80s the TSR is maybe considered quite insufficientOriginally posted by flash9933:I also not too sure about this Armour black day thing but when I'm in Armour, this day was quite notorious ... it is something related to accidents resulting in injuries/deaths on this particular date that happen consecutively over a period of years ... that to be "pan-tang", on this day, no outfield training with vehicles are plan for all Armour units ...
I heard of it from my brother when he served in Armour back in the early 80s.
in the 90s less n less of this le
during my days i have not learn abt such 'day'
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If you check out with those Armour officers/warrant officers with at least 15-20 years in the force, probably they can give you a better explanation of "Armour Black Day", which is observed during that particular date/day.
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sometimes doing road test for M113 is machiam like drifting.
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Tragic man... Was it featured in the news?
Only twice, as I recall. Both were brief mentions of the formal BOI hearings (conducted much, much later) published inside the ST editions. Never ever saw the official report, actually. Won't mind reading it too.
Looking back, I identify the accident to have happened in the second half of 1986, perhaps during the last quarter of that year. The explosion took place past midnight as the M113s was preparing to convoy back to camp. According to the sworn accounts, the fatality absorbed a chunk of the blast & in that sense indirectly "saved" his buddies. Nonetheless, the layer had some fingers blown off (the only one downgraded); another mortarman took sharpnel in his back; the detachment 2IC in his face (one heck of a swollen jawline) & the detachment commander in his buttocks(!) cuz he was "up there" in his seat. Only the driver, seated in front, was unhurt -- though he would ironically also downgrade later for a different reason & joined my IHL unit for reservist.
What also emerged from the chaotic eyewitness accounts was a hero (my BC, a scholar CPT who went into the M113 to carry out the injured) & a "villain" (my BTY medic, a gabra NSF who was paralyzed with shock). The dead soldier's name was Low Soon Yeow -- or isst Loh Soon Yow? Geez, it was 20+ years old, leh -- & I have good memories of him cuz he was one of the more affable Hokkien peng who took time out to befriend Air Levels like me who were just posted in mid-year.
The military funeral was a big affair -- we got to wear the No.1's & all the bigshots also came down to Mt. Vernon -- but, guiltily, only my BTY Hokkien peng remembered to mark his death anniversary a year on. Guiltily, cuz my BTY officers & English-educated troops only realized the occasion when we saw the simple, improvised ceremony at the back of the building (inverted bayoneted-M16, helmet & boots Hollywood-style, with joss sticks & incense-paper burning inside a metal bucket for an Asian touch).
What's bittersweet is that, like a lot of unforgetable NS experiences, they're largely forgotten after ORD by all except those were there. I'd queried a fellow NUS hostelite who'd joined the next 21 SA batch, as well as SOAY trainers later on during ICTs, but *sigh* they all said they'd heard only vague stories about what happened.
My old 21 SA BN, which I didn't follow after NS, ended up winning best Arty unit during reservist (265 SA) ~lol~ Quite a turnaround from what was quite a jinxed stint during active time (many other misadventures). -
Sad sia... Faulty M203?