Regarding my OC
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just ban him la. irritating bugger.
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I'm LL, not FI.Originally posted by Unknown_X:just ban him la. irritating bugger.
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what did you say o.OOriginally posted by norm:Mod's Note : That's quite irrelevant to the discussion you know. -
Hmm... you spelt out your camp and unit? Think that they will should sought you up and punish you accordingly. For me, I will try to get hold of the notice. If I really sick, I still do the things that they told me... till I faint.
Then I will ask to speak to orientation officer about the whole thing and tell him that my parents already aware of what happening in camp. If no action taken by him, they will speak to the MPs...
but don't think it would work. Best if you really sick, you voice up. maybe keep a notebook by yourself and ask your sgt or officer to sign and proof that they want you to do this or that when you already told them you are not feeling well and they don't allow you to report sick... but I doubt they would do that... -
He mentioned something totally unrelated to the discussion, about sexual tension etc.Originally posted by Doubser:what did you say o.O
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ok not worth reading . ahahas . he's bookin out again only next sat . gonna get him to read all the comments . ahahas . i posted so many replies until he got promoted to member o.O wow . LOL . only he can reply the best cos he knows best . mine are all 2nd hand info from him =\Originally posted by LazerLordz:He mentioned something totally unrelated to the discussion, about sexual tension etc. -
this is a good idea. but usually OOs are ex regs also. the tekong OOs aren't good at all. wayang only. another way is to get MP to write a letter and request for a PROPER[b] explanation.Originally posted by caleb_chiang:Then I will ask to speak to orientation officer about the whole thing and tell him that my parents already aware of what happening in camp. If no action taken by him, they will speak to the MPs...
but don't think it would work. Best if you really sick, you voice up. maybe keep a notebook by yourself and ask your sgt or officer to sign and proof that they want you to do this or that when you already told them you are not feeling well and they don't allow you to report sick... but I doubt they would do that... -
Yeap.Originally posted by Doubser:ok not worth reading . ahahas . he's bookin out again only next sat . gonna get him to read all the comments . ahahas . i posted so many replies until he got promoted to member o.O wow . LOL . only he can reply the best cos he knows best . mine are all 2nd hand info from him =\
Anyway, wish him all the best for his training from us here. -
thanks on his behalfOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Yeap.
Anyway, wish him all the best for his training from us here. 
only glad he's gonna POP in 2 weeks . ahahas . -
tell him abt the orientation officer and the notebook thing. will come in handy. in fact, get him to record down every unsafe act that they practice. when safety management audit is coming, he may want to show his notebook.Originally posted by Doubser:ok not worth reading . ahahas . he's bookin out again only next sat . gonna get him to read all the comments . ahahas . i posted so many replies until he got promoted to member o.O wow . LOL . only he can reply the best cos he knows best . mine are all 2nd hand info from him =\ -
wow . but would they doubt it ? like think that he made it all up or someth ?Originally posted by Unknown_X:tell him abt the orientation officer and the notebook thing. will come in handy. in fact, get him to record down every unsafe act that they practice. when safety management audit is coming, he may want to show his notebook. -
Not if his section or platoon is willing to do the same. If his PS/Sect Comd is also uneasy about the whole issue, they should do the same as well.Originally posted by Doubser:wow . but would they doubt it ? like think that he made it all up or someth ?
I'm optimistic that his OC will retract this soon, with another high-profile death at the AHM at the SAF's doorsteps, they will be taking this very seriously.
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okie . should try at least . thanks hehe .Originally posted by LazerLordz:Not if his section or platoon is willing to do the same. If his PS/Sect Comd is also uneasy about the whole issue, they should do the same as well. update him tml =p -
Everyone with common sense knows that tough training produces good soldiers, and that fair training produces motivated soldiers.
Care for your troops equates to increasing their morale, and thus potentially improving their ability to fight better with greater mental strength.
If you're sick, you cannot train well, and will injure yourself further and cause more headaches to your unit and Medical Centre. -
Originally posted by Unknown_X:
some MPs are NCOs and not officers. Better look for MPs who are officers in order to have more clout and power.
this is a good idea. but usually OOs are ex regs also. the tekong OOs aren't good at all. wayang only. another way is to get MP to write a letter and request for a [b]PROPER[b] explanation. [/b]
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That shouldn't even have to happen.Originally posted by khali:some MPs are NCOs and not officers. Better look for MPs who are officers in order to have more clout and power.
You are an elected Member of Parliament of the Republic, and you are saying that your clout is less than that of an Army Officer?
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X2. u r supposed to be representing the govt as a channel for feedback. who cares if u r NCO or Offr? any random mofo-ing tom dick harry civilian complain abt the army to MP and the army receive a letter. whole office will jump. happened to my office once. and it was jus a letter to clarify the pes status.Originally posted by LazerLordz:That shouldn't even have to happen.
You are an elected Member of Parliament of the Republic, and you are saying that your clout is less than that of an Army Officer? -
Last time, my office jumped a lot when some executives at STK had a few clarifications to make with us.Originally posted by Unknown_X:X2. u r supposed to be representing the govt as a channel for feedback. who cares if u r NCO or Offr? any random mofo-ing tom dick harry civilian complain abt the army to MP and the army receive a letter. whole office will jump. happened to my office once. and it was jus a letter to clarify the pes status. -
Civilian > SAF Officer > Recruit.Originally posted by khali:some MPs are NCOs and not officers. Better look for MPs who are officers in order to have more clout and power. -
wat's STK? eh LL, nb yr account still active in mindef forums la. i used my understudy account and still can see u as under active. army still wants u!Originally posted by LazerLordz:Last time, my office jumped a lot when some executives at STK had a few clarifications to make with us. -
Btw, if you boyfriend gets many many extras as a consequence of following the advice on this thread, I will be in Singapore some time soon. I guess what I am saying is, if you need a shoulder to cry on re those nasty SAF officers and those unhelpful SGF posters, I am here. Subject of course to certain conditions. Like posting you pic here.Originally posted by Doubser:thanks on his behalf
only glad he's gonna POP in 2 weeks . ahahas . -
WTF.Originally posted by Unknown_X:wat's STK? eh LL, nb yr account still active in mindef forums la. i used my understudy account and still can see u as under active. army still wants u!
Maybe I forgot to close the account.. cuz I was abroad and only came back to do my clearance and collect my IC when I ORD back then
STK = Singapore Technologies Kinetics. -
ic. wats yr unit and vocation sia last time? can't be nv close. my account also gone liao. status: ord member. unless someone use same nick as u.Originally posted by LazerLordz:WTF.
Maybe I forgot to close the account.. cuz I was abroad and only came back to do my clearance and collect my IC when I ORD back then
STK = Singapore Technologies Kinetics. -
there is no such thing as sick but cannot see doctor. Print 100000 flyers describing your experience and include your OC name.Originally posted by Doubser:I'm frm 2 PDF Command 6 SIR, we just came back frm field camp and no rest in between and many ppl falling sick. just wanna check with you guys to help out on the following rules whether it makes sense.
my OC told us tht no reporting sick after field camp will be entertained. flu/cough our problem. fever only above 39.8 thn can go mo..we were like wtf. worse still written on Routine Orders: REC are not allowed to report sick outside when book out. no going to hospital or whatever ,,failing to do so will face disciplinary action.. we complained to Mindef counselling and the operator say will write to CO..
guys any other ways to lodge complain other thn saf hotline or is there other number we can call thru.. seriously need help here!
The next day, he will be sacked from the SAF.
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i just called my bf . he said he may be getting charged . he said the OC accused him of acting sick etc . he has acute pain in the heels whenever he stands too long or walks too long, but his OC accused him of acting . some of his camp mates were also accused of acting . he said in the morning alot of his camp mates all got scolded for getting MC , and also they might be charged also . wtf is this ?!
and he said even he got status from MO , like RMJ etc , also no use cos the OC ignores it and they are made to do everyth .