ah!! BMT IS SEBEI SLACK NOW!!!
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I wonder how our fathers who have gone through NS in the sixties and seventies feel about us.
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lol if anyone was sensitive to vulgarities he would have been mad by the end of these 2 weeks haha. maybe that explains the number status personnelOriginally posted by ProudlySingaporean:what snk86 said is correct, i'm a recruit from gryphon coy and soc now is 50m start 50m end and our commanders at the start of bmt even asked if anyone of us is sensitive to the use of vulgarities
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during the 1st day of bmt, my instructor asked anyone cant take vulgarities.
one of the scholar raised his hand.
2 weeks later, u can hear all the vulgarities coming out from his mouth.
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we got scholar ar in our coy?Originally posted by monoslayer:during the 1st day of bmt, my instructor asked anyone cant take vulgarities.
one of the scholar raised his hand.
2 weeks later, u can hear all the vulgarities coming out from his mouth.
from plt 4 ar? -
nope. my plt. from RJC.Originally posted by mhcampboy:we got scholar ar in our coy?
from plt 4 ar? -
ooh... nerd ar??Originally posted by monoslayer:nope. my plt. from RJC. -
a little bit lah. but quite a nice guy.Originally posted by mhcampboy:ooh... nerd ar?? -
wad to expect...plt 1 wad.....Originally posted by monoslayer:a little bit lah. but quite a nice guy. -
ermmm... apa?????Originally posted by mhcampboy:wad to expect...plt 1 wad..... 
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nerds...Originally posted by monoslayer:ermmm... apa????? -
fark u.Originally posted by mhcampboy:nerds...
knock it down n hold it there!
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wait i ask my comd first...Originally posted by monoslayer:fark u.
knock it down n hold it there! -
swearing is how some handle stress. of course, it is a fashion for many others.
but since it is indeed a stress-releasing means, and soldiering is one of the more danger-prone and hence stressful professions, one should expect a fair bit of swears, whether directed at oneself or not. -
the first vulgarity i heard when i entered bmtc was 'cluster fuck'...
i think i heard it during the time when they issue the uniform n items.
lol i learnt a new word -
I think the idea of military training should be to produce an armed force that is effective in combat, and in combat, do not expect your enemies to talk to you in Queen's English, nor anything remotely understandable. (Excuse me my good man, would be so kind as to lay down your arms and submit to our armed forces' invasion of your beautiful island nation?)
I think not.
The context in which the rule of non mentioning of sex organs or any expletives must be viewed in a way that it may cut away with all that distraction of colourful language, and to focus the trainee's attention onto what is important: de-balling the opponent.
However, I find it unacceptable for 50M SOC to be conducted. That in my most honest opinion belongs in the realm of school going kids with nothing better to do after classes.
We are in relatively peaceful times (take away US, M.E, North Korea, Sri Lanka, etc etc) but come real crisis, our fathers and grandfathers may have to do our dirty work for us. I don't have the luxury of that, I'm only speaking for the younger ones and the orphans and occassional weirdos. -
May I know what is the timing for passing this 50 m or 150 m SOC?
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This 50 m SOC is only implemented during BMT time?
How about the SOC program for SISPEC, OCS, and active units? How about for 1st Cdo Bn?
If it is only for BMT, and it will not degrade the physical fitness status of SAF active units.
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Why should there be a double standard between BMT units and active units when it comes to SOC? For the guys who have done SOC before, you do realise that obstacle course alone without the distance to run amounts to little. When you get to an active unit, you are supposed to be armed with a set of individual skills and confidence, the stuff needed to further your training and coordination so that you may fight as a team (and this applies to sniper platoons as well), and surely wasting all that time in an active unit training for SOC should be avoided.Originally posted by Chemineer72:This 50 m SOC is only implemented during BMT time?
How about the SOC program for SISPEC, OCS, and active units? How about for 1st Cdo Bn?
If it is only for BMT, and it will not degrade the physical fitness status of SAF active units.
The overall fighting fitness of the SAF will depends largely on training in the active units, not for BMT recruits.
Speaking of double standards when it comes to SOC, it is well known that there exists a couple of different variants of the "event" which I am sad to say, is not for me to comment on, because I liked it. I could not bring myself to comment objectively on it. -
It might be for the idea of 'progressive training' that SOC program is different for BMTC and active units. I do understand that there is a more 'advanced' form of SOC called AOC which is not available for most units. I would think the rationale comes from the idea of having BTP and then ATP, and, similarly, section live firing follows by platoon live firing and then company live firing.
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AOC no running one lah....Originally posted by Chemineer72:It might be for the idea of 'progressive training' that SOC program is different for BMTC and active units. I do understand that there is a more 'advanced' form of SOC called AOC which is not available for most units. I would think the rationale comes from the idea of having BTP and then ATP, and, similarly, section live firing follows by platoon live firing and then company live firing.
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No running, participants line up at the starting line with their Cyclones and change modes to negotiate through the jacob's ladder.