ah!! BMT IS SEBEI SLACK NOW!!!
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Are you sure what you saw is not an isolated incident?Originally posted by snk86:i don't believe this man
just "sneak" into tekong to find one of my friend who is a PC there today, i am truely amaze at what BMTC has become liao.
commanders are expected to be "nice" to their recruits, aka no F**k and no mentioning of unmentionables organs.
3day outfield with NO TRENCH DIGGING!(WTF WTF WTF), only shellscrape. 3days fibua training(aka no need sleep on ground sheet wth)
SOC rundown only a GRAND 50 FREAKING METERS WTH HOW U EXPECT THAT TO BE CALLED A SOC!!!!!!!
and the best part. if a commander give punishment, he himself must FREAKING DO IT TOO! wah lao!!!!!!
seriously, i am no commander, i am all in for nice welfare treatment, but this is too much lor, really too much. how the fish are they expected to survive command sch or unit this way man! -
nope, what i just sawed was the WRITTEN TRAINING PROGRAM(for the soc part)Originally posted by chanjyj:Are you sure what you saw is not an isolated incident?
and well, put it this way, u have to see it to get it for the rest of the part -
Originally posted by snk86:nope, what i just sawed was the WRITTEN TRAINING PROGRAM(for the soc part)
and well, put it this way, u have to see it to get it for the rest of the part
Walao eh..... Like that PES A/B people so relax, my young friend PES E go NS 7 days tekong resort...
I can tell him no need scared liao. Can "sleep in class also won't kena "fark by commander" (Commander cannot scold fark right?)"
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tough times dont last, tough men do.
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When I left BMT that time, the parting words from my platoon sergeant was: " You see the new batch of recruits? In future they will use new transparent water bottles with markings so they will know when to drink 500 ml and not exceed, thanks to someone's parents.." Didnt know his words were so prophetic
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some people still can complained now....btw what kinda of SOC is that 50m running? Is the passing time still 10.30?
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At this rate, BMT will soon only consist of lectures, tutorials, and a final written exam.Originally posted by Pitot:old birds say now slack, now ppl will say future more slack, future ppl will say the further future ones more slack aiya... -
that would be too tough for most people.Originally posted by fudgester:At this rate, BMT will soon only consist of lectures, tutorials, and a final written exam. -
WTF???
is this discrimination against new batch of recruits?
we didn't asked for new field packs and equipments...
we didn't asked for the change of training plans...
and i think only 1% of the whole batch which are wussies complain about the life in BMT.
-.- i dun get these threads, keep saying that new training is not as tough as the old training...
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Maybe throw in a project?Originally posted by fudgester:At this rate, BMT will soon only consist of lectures, tutorials, and a final written exam. 
Oh my...how much have we just degraded in barely 7 years
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Can't you people see?
The BMT going "softer" on recruits is to prepare for the eventual intake of large numbers of FEMALE recruits!!!!
To make sure those commanders do not anyhow show off their immerse cursing vocabulary, a gradual refrain of using such explict language is now implemented.
I am sure the top brass understands the current "soft" tactics or procedures will no doubt pay off in the future. The benefits will be immeasurable when females recruits can be intergrated into companies with male recruits.
Such intergration will have greater effects on motivation (wayangness) on our future male recruits than whacking the daylights out of them...
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dude. only the last 2 (or last) socs of the training consist of full rundown lah.Originally posted by snk86:nope, what i just sawed was the WRITTEN TRAINING PROGRAM(for the soc part)
and well, put it this way, u have to see it to get it for the rest of the part
before that, all the practices are 50m rundown. zzzzzz -
TRAINING TOUGH COMPLAIN. TRAINING LAX ALSO COMPLAIN. CHEE-BYE.
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wil be paying a visit to bmtc soon. will see if what you said is true.
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Den you go set up your own private army and recruite ppl lor. Den you F*** them all day long.Originally posted by snk86:i dunno lah, i feel that NS without the occasional bao ka liao F word and the unmentionables organs, is just not right lei -
enlisting soon, tell u what's happening inside soon.Originally posted by wuming78:wil be paying a visit to bmtc soon. will see if what you said is true.
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Lol. What a joke and I don't mean the slack training. People that have not enlisted saying that it is too slack for them. I rather reserve judgment till I have been there done that.
I am quite happy that the standards are more reasonable now. What is the point of vulgarities other than for the sake of shouting something crude? Most people go in clean and come out with a mouthful of vulgarities.
Thank god I am slowly acclimatising back to Civilian life and cutting down on the vulgarities. I have many friends who before NS have never or rarely used vulgarities but once inside they start to spout them.
Is using vulgarities a sign of how tough and macho you are? No thanks, I don't want my son going in to learn all these things and if I must complain to do so, I will.
If everyone is oh so worried about how the army is not right and they are producing a bunch of sissies not capable to protecting us then they ought to go there and sign on for life and put their words into action. And I don't mean signing on to drink kopi in mess and start shoving all their work onto NSF and then threatening to charge them to keep them in line.
P.S. I hate it when people start complaining that NS so slack, bmt so slack. Unless you are one that have not complained during NS it is very hypocritical. Its not like its all fun and games there or some sort of Holiday camp. -
grrrr... must beat up the next recruit i see...
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it's not really about the vulgarities you know ....
if anything, I'd prefer that the rationale for certain curious orders and commander behaviours be explained to the trainees ....
it was only towards the tail end of my service, when I got access to training plans, that I realized that often, those so called "tekan" sessions are carefully orchestrated and managed .... to maintain the psychological pressure on the trainees, to inure soldiers to constant stress ... that's the closest the SAF can do to simulate the stress of combat .....
if you can show me a way to achieve that without yelling and obscenities, I'd be all for it .....
but I certainly do NOT agree to a slackening of physical standards and hardships in the field .... until the day when all our frontline combatants are replaced by gun-toting robots, we cannot afford to turn into mouse-clicking, button pushing pansies just yet .... it's not about the bragging rights that sleeping in the rain with mud and grit in your underwear somewhere in the ulus ..... but a necessity .....
of course .... perhaps the brass more accustomed to air-conditioned planning rooms with banks of lappies attended by pale NS geeks would find it see that .... -
When can they abolish annual ippt?
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we're gonna have one of the softest armies ever! yay us, and another one for the record books!
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u havent enlist yet u keep quiet..Originally posted by Keii:we're gonna have one of the softest armies ever! yay us, and another one for the record books! -
I'm just asking to abolish annual ippt, I'll still go for my 10 year cycle.
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sure anot? i was there juz last month and i hear all the rsm and pc sprouting vulgars.
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maybe all the CCB , KNN etc have already entered the daily singaporean lexicon and are no longer considered vulgarities ? .....Originally posted by Ito_^:sure anot? i was there juz last month and i hear all the rsm and pc sprouting vulgars.