SAF Officer sentenced to jail in JB for not choping passport
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He and George Bush went to the same School.
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your analysis is flawed..
he can make a splash now, get his face in the news... and if there's egg on his face, the Public with the very very very short attention span will forget that too..
but hey, he's got his name in the papers..Originally posted by scabstermooch:This Tan Chai Ho seems to be a fool. How does someone get to his position by being so un media saavy? He should have kept his mouth shut and let the thing blow over. Mr Tan, the Public has a very very very short attention span and given some time, they will forget the matter.
Here endeth the lesson fool. -
Yes the public has a short memory. But memories are considerably extended if you keep giving it the oxygen of publicity. Yes, the man got his name in the paper, but it is certainly not true that all publicity is good publicity. On this occasion, he looks like an incompetent fool because he has stated things that everyone who know anything will know is a complete lie. Lying is normal and is to be commended but only if done properly. This is an example of a lie done wrong.Originally posted by the Bear:your analysis is flawed..
he can make a splash now, get his face in the news... and if there's egg on his face, the Public with the very very very short attention span will forget that too..
but hey, he's got his name in the papers.. -
well, Samy Vellu has ALWAYS looked like a fool and he's still there
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I am unfamiliar with this Samy Vellu fellow. However, there are clearly different shads of foolishness. George Bush looks a fool but he is endearing to all the red-neck fools that make up america. Mr Tan looks to be another creature altogether.Originally posted by the Bear:well, Samy Vellu has ALWAYS looked like a fool and he's still there -
new update.
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Received travel advisory from my camp saying that going to m'sia pump oil, buy cigarettes, look at girls, etc etc.. need to inform as long as you step into m'sia for even 1 sec.
In the past as long as you return within 24hrs, its "ok" to go without informing anyone. -
Inform who ? Who keeps the records ? And what for ?Originally posted by Don©:Received travel advisory from my camp saying that going to m'sia pump oil, buy cigarettes, look at girls, etc etc.. need to inform as long as you step into m'sia for even 1 sec.
In the past as long as you return within 24hrs, its "ok" to go without informing anyone.
Is it that if you do not report to camp the next morning, your CO has to assume that you have been detained by the customs in JB ? And what can he do ? Report to MINDEF to bail you out ? -
I think that some of you do not know the details on the case here please don't anyhow talk.
The person who was caught is my friend and he's not the sort who'd try to pull funny stunts.
I've had my fair share of JB custom, Traffic police rubbish also. Even dare to ask me for a bribe on the spot. But I always make sure they stamp the passport right in front of me. I have a friend who has to 'surrender' his brand new handphone in exchange for release from the custom counter when he did not realise that the counter did not stamp his passport when he went in.
I think this serves as a lesson to all of us who're entering malaysia regardless by bike, car etc to ensure you have everything done before you leave the counter. The Malaysian side is not as clean/safe as in Singapore. -
too careless. considering he's an officer and his ...Originally posted by MS:I think that some of you do not know the details on the case here please don't anyhow talk.
The person who was caught is my friend and he's not the sort who'd try to pull funny stunts.
I've had my fair share of JB custom, Traffic police rubbish also. Even dare to ask me for a bribe on the spot. But I always make sure they stamp the passport right in front of me. I have a friend who has to 'surrender' his brand new handphone in exchange for release from the custom counter when he did not realise that the counter did not stamp his passport when he went in.
I think this serves as a lesson to all of us who're entering malaysia regardless by bike, car etc to ensure you have everything done before you leave the counter. The Malaysian side is not as clean/safe as in Singapore.
should have noticed something amiss.
or is he distracted by the chick? -
Wholly irrelevant. Unless you are telling us what really happened was that he went to the counter and the immigration officer did not stamp his passport - contradicting what he told the court.Originally posted by MS:The person who was caught is my friend and he's not the sort who'd try to pull funny stunts.
I've had my fair share of JB custom, Traffic police rubbish also. Even dare to ask me for a bribe on the spot. But I always make sure they stamp the passport right in front of me. I have a friend who has to 'surrender' his brand new handphone in exchange for release from the custom counter when he did not realise that the counter did not stamp his passport when he went in.
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U dun drive or ride into Malaysia at all right? If you're not sure what is going on, please refrain your remarks.Originally posted by scabstermooch:Wholly irrelevant. Unless you are telling us what really happened was that he went to the counter and the immigration officer did not stamp his passport - contradicting what he told the court. -
When unhappy incidences take places, one of the things you hope to happen last is people speculating & jump into conclusions over baseless remarks on your matter.
The actual facts can easily be twisted, spreaded and it can very potentially affect the reputation of the person in unwanted ways.
We should take responsibilities over what we say.
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Oh what incisive wit! What penetrating arguments!Originally posted by MS:U dun drive or ride into Malaysia at all right? If you're not sure what is going on, please refrain your remarks.
To be a little more serious...
Again, prima facie irrelevant.
Can't understand why people think tactics like "you don't know anything, I do but I am not going to tell you, so you will have to take it from me that I have a better argument" actually work. -
I agree. Let's have some open discussions or not at all. Everyone here can draw on personal experience but to have a meaningful debate, you need to have an agreed set of facts. Obviously, the only one we have to go on is that stated in the newspaper report (which is supposedly what the guilty party himself said).Originally posted by MS:When unhappy incidences take places, one of the things you hope to happen last is people speculating & jump into conclusions over baseless remarks on your matter.
The actual facts can easily be twisted, spreaded and it can very potentially affect the reputation of the person in unwanted ways.
We should take responsibilities over what we say.
Have integrity over our dealings please.
If the person involved lied in court as part of some courtroom tactics. then as he reaps the benefits of his lies, so should he shoulder the burden. It is right that he is judged on what he said. -
anyway his got too much against him at the moment.
his army career gone.
just hope that his superiors can cut a deal with the malaysian side.
And MS don be so harsh on scab, your friend was careless.
(point is that when crossing to Malaysia to gotta expect this kind of passport problems.)
too many similar cases from before. -
embarrassing sia...
commando officer somemore...
no brain one .. -
third world country.
sometimes u need to pity them,
give them some money to buy pedigree then they will guai guai let u go...
or else they will bite on to u non stop....
tame them well b4 they bite u !!!! -
how u know he's a commando?Originally posted by mhcampboy:embarrassing sia...
commando officer somemore...
no brain one ..
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We talk on whatever details are available. And many times based on general knowledge.Originally posted by MS:I think that some of you do not know the details on the case here please don't anyhow talk.
The person who was caught is my friend and he's not the sort who'd try to pull funny stunts.
I've had my fair share of JB custom, Traffic police rubbish also. Even dare to ask me for a bribe on the spot. But I always make sure they stamp the passport right in front of me. I have a friend who has to 'surrender' his brand new handphone in exchange for release from the custom counter when he did not realise that the counter did not stamp his passport when he went in.
I think this serves as a lesson to all of us who're entering malaysia regardless by bike, car etc to ensure you have everything done before you leave the counter. The Malaysian side is not as clean/safe as in Singapore.
Your friend probably got into this because he does not pull funny stunts when he has to. He is too straight. We cannot apply Singapore way of life to other countries. Its only at our border and he got into this kind of trouble.
I won't call it asking for bribe. Its a small token to overlook a minor offence. They won't do it for a serious offence. Not having stamp the passport is a small deal which a small token can do the trick. But if you refused, then it becomes a major offence of illegal entry. And when blown out of proportion, and then you propose a big bribe, it will be too late.
Its a way of life in many countries, not only in Malaysia. Wait till he gets into China, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Central America, Eastern Europe, Russia, Africa.
Remember : You scratch his back and he will scratch yours. -
commando la... i know his name somemore!!Originally posted by Gordonator:how u know he's a commando?
nb he... waste ppl time only!! -
i think he just damn unlucky.Originally posted by KoolKool:We talk on whatever details are available. And many times based on general knowledge.
Your friend probably got into this because he does not pull funny stunts when he has to. He is too straight. We cannot apply Singapore way of life to other countries. Its only at our border and he got into this kind of trouble.
I won't call it asking for bribe. Its a small token to overlook a minor offence. They won't do it for a serious offence. Not having stamp the passport is a small deal which a small token can do the trick. But if you refused, then it becomes a major offence of illegal entry. And when blown out of proportion, and then you propose a big bribe, it will be too late.
Its a way of life in many countries, not only in Malaysia. Wait till he gets into China, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Central America, Eastern Europe, Russia, Africa.
Remember : You scratch his back and he will scratch yours.
he met an immigration officer who doesn't take bribe
otherwise why would he admit he is guilty in court in the first place. -
cannot be ..... if this is really the case, he would be charged with trying to bribe an immigration officer as well.
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In general some of the immigration officer from other side can be bribed.Originally posted by KoolKool:cannot be ..... if this is really the case, he would be charged with trying to bribe an immigration officer as well. -
i just said that the officer doesn't take bribe, i didn't say he offer bribe mah.Originally posted by KoolKool:cannot be ..... if this is really the case, he would be charged with trying to bribe an immigration officer as well.
normally in malaysia, the police or officer will tell u the bribe they wanted.