Is the Bible the Word of God or the words of man?
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I think it is better to start a new thread on this than to dilute the other thread. Please continue discussion here.
Bible critics like to say that the Bible was written by man to control the masses i.e. it is invented fiction, no real truth to it at all. But what Christians are saying is that while the Bible is written by men it is not a mere invention of men. It is a truthful record of God's dealings with man.
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2 tim 3:6 "all scriptures are given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (KJV)
and the unity of scriptures (proven historically) settles this issue one and for all.
Malachi ends with the LORD coming, Matthew started with it, Revelations ended with it
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You want discussion but you shoot at people when people post it.
Hypocrite!
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Originally posted by winsomeea:
You want discussion but you shoot at people when people post it.
Hypocrite!
Winsome... your reactions reflect you're either trolled or trolling...
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"all scriptures are given by the inspiration of God"
tat said it all
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actually, not much discussion needed for this TS. The clear answer is YES.
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
actually, not much discussion needed for this TS. The clear answer is YES.
At the the beginning, there was the word...
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
Winsome... your reactions reflect you're either trolled or trolling...
So what is your motive of posting this? You a troll?
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Originally posted by winsomeea:
So what is your motive of posting this? You a troll?
The intention is to let you realize you are reacting like a troll or being trolled. I am a master troll if it matters...
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
The intention is to let you realize you are reacting like a troll or being trolled. I am a master troll if it matters...
and so . . . .. . . . . . . . you admit you are a master troll .. . . . .
so????????
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Originally posted by winsomeea:
and so . . . .. . . . . . . . you admit you are a master troll .. . . . .
so????????
You asked, I answered. So why are you reacting in such a manner?
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
You asked, I answered. So why are you reacting in such a manner?
? ? ? ?
Why are you telling me you are a master troll? I am not interested.
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.... In the beginning...
MAN CREATED GOD
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
.... In the beginning...
MAN CREATED GOD
you are hilarious
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Nuisance post deleted.
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Truly, the bible was the word of man. Its is so heavily misintrepreted. Alot of things inside the bibke has been removed, eg, jesus is the begotten son of god. Begotten is sexual intercourse. So we actually give animal attributes to god, a devine power. So it was removed. The bible forbids eating the flesh of swine. Yet many christians eat them. It was joseph, matthew and the others who compiled this crap! Bible is FLAWED!
Who is god by the way? Jesus? Father? Son? Holy ghost? Who?
Just because he was born without a father, we call him god? What about adam, who had no parents?
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Originally posted by ISTARI:
Truly, the bible was the word of man. Its is so heavily misintrepreted. Alot of things inside the bibke has been removed, eg, jesus is the begotten son of god. Begotten is sexual intercourse. So we actually give animal attributes to god, a devine power. So it was removed. The bible forbids eating the flesh of swine. Yet many christians eat them. It was joseph, matthew and the others who compiled this crap! Bible is FLAWED!
Who is god by the way? Jesus? Father? Son? Holy ghost? Who?
Just because he was born without a father, we call him god? What about adam, who had no parents?
1. The Bible is the Word of God, not of man. God used man to write. This is called the doctrine of the Inspiration of Scriptures. See http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/Inspiration.html
2. That the Bible is heavily misinterpreted is no fault of the Bible and does not count as an argument against the Bible. The solution is to correctly interpret it, not reject it!
3. You said a lot of things have been removed from the Bible. Please give a lot of examples. You gave just one which hardly qualifies as removal of anything. It's a question of interpretation, not removal! BTW, do you just think only of sex when you see the word "begotten"?. See http://www.gotquestions.org/only-begotten-son.html
4. Who told you that Christians are forbidden by God to eat pork? While the Bible does forbade the eating of pork it was specifically FOR the Jews and not for the Christians.
5. Who told you that the Bible was compiled by Joseph, Matthew and others? Name your sources.
6. There is ONE God who exists in THREE Persons. The Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God. This is the doctrine of the Trinity, not invented by man, but recognised as being revealed in the Bible. See http://www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html
7. Who told you that Jesus was deified because He had no biological father? No where does the Bible teach such a thing. Jesus is God because that's who He is, not because He has no biological father. Jesus did not become God, He is God and has always been.
Bottom line: You are seriously MISINFORMED about Christianity. Please find out what Christianity REALLY teaches before you criticise it.
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FUCK THE TWISTED TROLL
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TS is practising tyranny here. hahahahahaha
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1. No where in the bible did god mention, " Worship me"
2.Trinity- Concept of trinity is clearly absurd. The father, son and the holy ghost. When you think of father, you will see a fatherly figure with beard overseeing earth, the son, you'll see a handsome yound man say Jesus, the holy ghost, a devine force. These are 3 distinct images. They are NON-SUPERIMPOSIBLE!! Just admit it, you are forced to believe they exist as three forms. It is a nonsensical approach. 3-in-1 coffee perhaps??
3. Jesus never return. Many christians believe that jesus return was imminent
4. In the Bible, Jesus was hungry and wanted to eat figs, a type of fruit. Yet he cant because it was not in season. He cursed the tree. What kind of god gets hungry and curses at a tree. Verily his action was immature. Mark 11:12-14.
5. David and Jesus had variable number of generations- Matthew(1:1-16) and Luke(3:23-38) In matthew, there are 27 generations, Luke 41. So the bible is not inerrant afterall.
6. Jesus was tempted by the devil, God can be tempted?? Very undevine indeed. Has no control over the devil
7. Even you cannot deny the fact that jesus was the begotten son of god!
Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him." (Holy Qur'an, 112:1-4)
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8. Why was Jesus cruxified or killed?
To absolve your sins? Who in the right frame of mind would ever want to kill themselves so that you, humans, and your sins be forgiven.? How can god ever die? He is meant to be immortal. Could he have not done anything to revive himself? Worse part, he was killed by Jews! So jesus was so docile enough to go through the cruxifixion?
You say that Jsus is god, yet some say he is the son of god! Then who's god??
Why do christians have to fill up their minds with vague, illogical, mind-twisting set of stories? Cant there be a religion that is logical and straight to the point. Even you dont understand why god exist in three forms. Its more of like pokemon evolution!
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9. Why Christian women dont cover their heads as the Bible clearly commands?
1 Corinthians 9-11
"If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man." - 1 Corinthians 11:6-7 -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
I think it is better to start a new thread on this than to dilute the other thread. Please continue discussion here.
Bible critics like to say that the Bible was written by man to control the masses i.e. it is invented fiction, no real truth to it at all. But what Christians are saying is that while the Bible is written by men it is not a mere invention of men. It is a truthful record of God's dealings with man.
If you have read the Bible carefully you would realise that it is written by men who tries to explain men dealing with God, not the other way around. So it is open to the interpretation of the reader and much to the chargrin of the "experts".
Whereas the ;Qur'an, is said to be direct from God, Full stop, do not question. Everything is written there and its final. Islam has its roots in Judaism and Christianity, very easy to dictatorially claim that those are corrupted and Islam absolutely correct, and must not be challenged. By not being challenged like Christianity, we will never know, do we?
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I'm also learning about Islam now. Jesus is being mentioned more times that Muhammed btw. You can read the story of Jesus in quran. @Brolnchrist
The bible also mentions the coming of Prophet Muhammed
Deuteronomy 18:18 "I will raise for them a Prophet like you (Moses) from among their brethren and will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them, all that I command him".
Btw, it was not Jesus. Clearly it was Muhammed
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):
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Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
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Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.
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Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158