Christian Arguments for God’s Existence - Refutations
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Condemnation. hahahhahahah. Good lol, build more walls, very good!
Buddhism wan sui!!!!
People who don't accept or believe God are idiots , wa! If I meet a pastor I will ask is this true. I don't remember bible teaches this.
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I dunno about you people, but for me buddhism works....I have alot of christian frens that are spiritually happy too! So it's all up to us to take up any faith that works and make us spiritually happy! Hahaha!
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
But you sound very bitchy too.
Mayb a man-bitch!
I remember someone here calling you bitch-I-C
He is a bitchy woman in man's body. hahahahhahahahahahah! No show love of God! No love of God is as good as non christians.He very bitchy, troublemaking with me when I don't offend him. bloody bitch!
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
I dunno about you people, but for me buddhism works....I have alot of christian frens that are spiritually happy too! So it's all up to us to take up any faith that works and make us spiritually happy! Hahaha!
Buddhism has it, really. They don't condemn people, or consider doubting as a sin. Buddhism is a very compassion religion. Buddhism wan sui! Wan sui wan sui wan wan sui!Buddhism does not called non buddhists IDIOTS~!
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Some christians can be really critical about other forms of faith...I also have christian frens that will say this is evil or that is evil etc..They are not very open minded...
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Some christians can be really critical about other forms of faith...I also have christian frens that will say this is evil or that is evil etc..They are not very open minded...
They are brainwashed. A lot of things are satanic including yoga, japanese floral arrangement, buddhism, Harry Potter and many many many others.
The serious problems of these are arrogance, practice of no love of God, narrow mind. Satan is a favourite scapegoat for them.
Luckily, there are few who are genuinely kind.
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
Even among christians there are different interpretation and beliefs....same as for other religions eg. buddhism....so many different schools....
Yes it is true that Christians have differing views, but for now let's stick to the point about Christians killing or conquering people to force conversion issue. Question is, did Jesus teach thus and demonstrated this by life example? -
Originally posted by winsomeea:
They are brainwashed. A lot of things are satanic including yoga, japanese floral arrangement, buddhism, Harry Potter and many many many others.
The serious problems of these are arrogance, practice of no love of God, narrow mind. Satan is a favourite scapegoat for them.
Luckily, there are few who are genuinely kind.
my goodness. then ipad, iphone are also satanic? if so why are they using these gadgets? even music and movies are satanic
this is laugable 
brainless fools. have a brain, but not using it.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Yes it is true that Christians have differing views, but for now let's stick to the point about Christians killing or conquering people to force conversion issue. Question is, did Jesus teach thus and demonstrated this by life example?So you think Jesus did taught this?
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
So you think Jesus did taught this?
Of course not. If He did would I be in the forum arguing and debating and seeking to persuade people about the faith? I would have been using physical force to compel conversion. But let's not divert from the need for critics like Jacky to back up their claims that Christianity seeks conversion by coercion. -
Originally posted by Demon Bane:
So you think Jesus did taught this?
When Christ was on earth he taught with love, kindness ........... not what we see from most christians here.
We even have one christian from City Harvest Church, nick youyayu posted to label non christians as idiots see http://sgforums.com/forums/1381/topics/441588?page=10
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The only sin to me is that of being a somnabulist and that is virtuous (virtue) which awakens to what is true The irony of it is this lah - Jesus never uttered that he was a Christian nor did Krrishna utter Hinduism, nor did Mohd utter Islam They were beings who had trancended sin and virtue and shared thru their being kind, being compassionate, being inclusive.
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:
The only sin to me is that of being a somnabulist and that is virtuous (virtue) which awakens to what is true
The irony of it is this lah – Jesus never uttered that he was a Christian nor did Krrishna utter Hinduism, nor did Mohd utter Islam
They were beings who had trancended sin and virtue and shared thru their being kind, being compassionate, being inclusive.
Can you explain in greater detail your first statement? Also, it does not make sense for Jesus to call Himself a Christian if you know what it means to be one. -
Hey BIC,I'll be looking at this issue from a neutral point of view.
Do you think that everyone should believe in the Christian god? Or do you also,like us,respect the existence of other gods?
I am neutral here. Neutral. Neutral.
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Originally posted by Sandy17sandy17:
Hey BIC,I'll be looking at this issue from a neutral point of view.
Do you think that everyone should believe in the Christian god? Or do you also,like us,respect the existence of other gods?
I am neutral here. Neutral. Neutral.
Sandy, I presume you are aware of my view that there is no such thing as a neutral person. Anyway to answer you, yes, the Bible teaches that God desires that all be saved. Jesus died for all, not for some. But this does not mean that all must believe, for that would mean compulsion. The medium is in the preaching of the Gospel and in persuading people of the truth of Christianity. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Can you explain in greater detail your first statement? Also, it does not make sense for Jesus to call Himself a Christian if you know what it means to be one.
By sin I mean to living on borrowed concepts and as for Christianity ( it is organized around a belief system and anything that is organised ) and Jesus Christ preceded Christianity. Organized religion nullifies the possiblity of being a religion. When I try to organize truth (not to be confused with that of psychological/social relevance) I have already ''killed'' what is true! How can religious (aka spiritual) qualities flower when in the first place it is circumsribed and .....on closer scrutiny it is power politics. Truth cannot be objectified - when it is alread the past and dead. Whether it be Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism, it does not matter. Any organized religion circumscribes and dictates what one should be or should not be. Dont all of us want to be from dictates . Oné's individuality, one's freedom, one's dignity is diminshed. To simply imbibe and swallow without intelligence is to be sleepwalking. That seems to be the attitude of all so-called religions.My believing in Jesus, or in Krishna, or in Buddha, does not in anyway negate or nullify my ''crimes'' and ''sins''. They were beings who had trancended sin and virtue and shared thru their being kind, being compassionate, being inclusive. This is the crux of a religious flowering and it exemplifies existential relevancy. When I am being kind, rude or ... that is an existentially relevant. However, If I think that I am kind, think that I am intelligent, think that i believe in .... the latter is merely psychological and at its best has some social relevance. -
Originally posted by Fugazzi:
By sin I mean to living on borrowed concepts and as for Christianity ( it is organized around a belief system and anything that is organised ) and Jesus Christ preceded Christianity. Organized religion nullifies the possiblity of being a religion. When I try to organize truth (not to be confused with that of psychological/social relevance) I have already ''killed'' what is true! How can religious (aka spiritual) qualities flower when in the first place it is circumsribed and .....on closer scrutiny it is power politics. Truth cannot be objectified - when it is alread the past and dead. Whether it be Christianity or Hinduism or Buddhism, it does not matter. Any organized religion circumscribes and dictates what one should be or should not be. Dont all of us want to be from dictates . Oné's individuality, one's freedom, one's dignity is diminshed. To simply imbibe and swallow without intelligence is to be sleepwalking. That seems to be the attitude of all so-called religions.My believing in Jesus, or in Krishna, or in Buddha, does not in anyway negate or nullify my ''crimes'' and ''sins''. They were beings who had trancended sin and virtue and shared thru their being kind, being compassionate, being inclusive. This is the crux of a religious flowering and it exemplifies existential relevancy. When I am being kind, rude or ... that is an existentially relevant. However, If I think that I am kind, think that I am intelligent, think that i believe in .... the latter is merely psychological and at its best has some social relevance.
what then is your worldview? Can you explain please? You may want to organize your thoughts though. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
what then is your worldview? Can you explain please? You may want to organize your thoughts though.
I do not care for woldviews cos there is no such thing - can u find society? can u find the world? u can find individuals. As for organsing thoughts- insanity is trying to organise thoughts - an average person has 60-80, thousand thoughts a day. U want to know what is ur mind is all about - just being self-honest, write down in a given minute or so all thougths that pass thru ur mind without choosing what to write down - u would realize it is madness. So much for organizing thoughts. Can u find your mind (aka thoughts)? -
One's beliefs usually is repressed doubt, hence the more one believes more the doubt entrenches itself in one's unconscious. Beware the mind games!
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:
I do not care for woldviews cos there is no such thing - can u find society? can u find the world? u can find individuals. As for organsing thoughts- insanity is trying to organise thoughts - an average person has 60-80, thousand thoughts a day. U want to know what is ur mind is all about - just being self-honest, write down in a given minute or so all thougths that pass thru ur mind without choosing what to write down - u would realize it is madness. So much for organizing thoughts. Can u find your mind (aka thoughts)?EVERYONE has a worldview, a way of looking at the world to make sense of it, you included. Perhaps you have never given a good thought to it because your part of your worldview says that organising one's thoughts is an exercise in insanity? But then again, you do try to organise what you write in these posts, do you not?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
EVERYONE has a worldview, a way of looking at the world to make sense of it, you included. Perhaps you have never given a good thought to it because your part of your worldview says that organising one's thoughts is an exercise in insanity? But then again, you do try to organise what you write in these posts, do you not?
I dont know whether i organise it or not - i intuit a response. U can juggle semantics and justify your stance, It is u and ur predicament. U are not rite nor are u wrong. I m not asking u to subscribe or embrace. It it does not resonate of u or with u - ignore. Ignoring me does not cancel out what is not! -
Originally posted by Fugazzi:
I dont know whether i organise it or not - i intuit a response. U can juggle semantics and justify your stance, It is u and ur predicament. U are not rite nor are u wrong. I m not asking u to subscribe or embrace. It it does not resonate of u or with u - ignore. Ignoring me does not cancel out what is not!Of course you do, otherwise you would be posting gibberish, but yet you do try to use English to organise your "intuitive" response. I hope you are not one of those who do not believe that absolutes exist or that objective moral values exist.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Of course you do, otherwise you would be posting gibberish, but yet you do try to use English to organise your "intuitive" response. I hope you are not one of those who do not believe that absolutes exist or that objective moral values exist.
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:
<br / Frankly I dont give two hoots about morals or ..., what is moral today, maybe be immoral tomorrow. What is rite now could be wrong the next moment. Whehter it is gibberish or not , it is alrite with me, i say what i want to say lah, u say what u want to say - however the real thing is I define myself by what I utter, u do the same- that is something u nor me can escape.
You claimed not to care about morals yet you were moralising in all your postings. You said the real thing is your defining yourself by what you said, yet you also said that what is right today can be wrong tomorrow. It is all so self-refuting. Note that I am not agreeing with you at all. -
I trust in contradictions, i trust in uncertainty - if u cannot understand this, ignore - as to whehter u agree or disagree - that is ur predicament and u live by it.