Why so many people disliked christianity?
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Originally posted by RoyFang:
For someone who post that Christians are to be slow to judge, you judge very fast.
Did I say I'm an atheist? So much for you trying to claim the higher moral ground...
nice try. Why don't you try to respond to the contents of the arguments that these Christians (including myself) post instead of resorting to ad hominems?
First of all, did i claim that you're an atheist? Crony defined here. Do you see anything in the definition about similar beliefs?
Second of all, judging fast and calling you atheist (if i did) does not compromise any morals.
Third of all, did i try to claim the higher moral ground? Didnt think so. Now you're misrepresenting me... 2 times some more ... no good.
Fourthly, i never claimed to be the perfect / model Christian. Like the apostle Paul, I confess to be the worst of sinners. in this case, there're several other character flaws i possess, judging too fast (if ever) is the least of my concerns.
Lastly, who's to determine fast or slow judging? You? Me? Plus you're forgetting that there're previous chat histories that i can look up...
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Originally posted by laurence82:
hey this sound familiar, i can prove what you said
Atheists: The world is round and we are in a heliocentric system
Member of religion X: No, the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth. You claim to be logical and rational but you make sweeping statements, abusive ad hominems, guilty by association, you only interested in hearing what you interested to hear
Fark atheists i say!
Ferdinand Magellan first man to travel round the earth to prove that earth is round.
OMG! Not another feat by a Christian again, Jesus Christ!
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Originally posted by 24/7:
nice try. Why don't you try to respond to the contents of the arguments that these Christians (including myself) post instead of resorting to ad hominems?
First of all, did i claim that you're an atheist? Crony defined here. Do you see anything in the definition about similar beliefs?
Second of all, judging fast and calling you atheist (if i did) does not compromise any morals.
Third of all, did i try to claim the higher moral ground? Didnt think so. Now you're misrepresenting me... 2 times some more ... no good.
Fourthly, i never claimed to be the perfect / model Christian. Like the apostle Paul, I confess to be the worst of sinners. in this case, there're several other character flaws i possess, judging too fast (if ever) is the least of my concerns.
Lastly, who's to determine fast or slow judging? You? Me? Plus you're forgetting that there're previous chat histories that i can look up...
Royfang didnt resort to ad hominems, you did, so why dont you respond to the content of the arguments?
Yeah you did claim he is atheist, or else why you direct the post to him, you always dont make sense with your actions hor
You claim moral ground, by trying to correct what other people do or say, no need to explicitly say you claiming higher ground wad, dey!
You never claim to be perfect christian, should we care or not?
You are too fast to judge sia
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Ferdinand Magellan first man to travel round the earth to prove that earth is round.
OMG! Not another feat by a Christian again, Jesus Christ!
Huh so?
You rather him to be under house arrest or under constant threat of excommunication, like Galileo?
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Royfang didnt resort to ad hominems, you did, so why dont you respond to the content of the arguments?
Yeah you did claim he is atheist, or else why you direct the post to him, you always dont make sense with your actions hor
You claim moral ground, by trying to correct what other people do or say, no need to explicitly say you claiming higher ground wad, dey!
You never claim to be perfect christian, should we care or not?
You are too fast to judge sia
1) yo dumbass, i did. Refer to my response to him. He asked me a question if i agreed with someone, i replied.
2) Where's my claim? As i wrote, he asked me question, i reply.
3) Seriously. To others who share the same beliefs as this guy: do you guys actually think he makes sense? And he's not refuting himself?
4) Yes.
5) Psycho assertion. No proof, refuting yourself, self-defeating.
As a parting shot to you, you're epitomized Psalm 14:1. You're irrational / illogical and i strongly suspect other atheists might be ashamed to call you their own. I choose not to throw pearls before swines (Matt 7:6), thus adios! Continue your ranting / raving and psycho assertions.
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Originally posted by 24/7:
1) yo dumbass, i did. Refer to my response to him. He asked me a question if i agreed with someone, i replied.
2) Where's my claim? As i wrote, he asked me question, i reply.
3) Seriously. To others who share the same beliefs as this guy: do you guys actually think he makes sense? And he's not refuting himself?
4) Yes.
5) Psycho assertion. No proof, refuting yourself, self-defeating.
As a parting shot to you, you're epitomized Psalm 14:1. You're irrational / illogical and i strongly suspect other atheists might be ashamed to call you their own. I choose not to throw pearls before swines (Matt 7:6), thus adios! Continue your ranting / raving and psycho assertions.
see lar, so personal, so ad hominem, calling people dumbass, aiyoh, he did not resort to ad hominem ah, you did ah, so how?
you claim he is an atheist ah, so question is why you assert this sort of thing?
are you refuting you claim higher ground? so you have no higher ground? then what the fark u doing here ah??
no
book is dead, people are alive ah, you can be stupidly quoting from a book also no point, when its clearly your wrong ah
should i read Aesop Fables to you, or perhaps Chitty Chitty Bang Bang if Aesop is too chim for u?
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realli parting shot ah
so sad
cannot argue ler, quote bible, assert people say this say that
so sad really....aiyoh
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Originally posted by 24/7:
nice try. Why don't you try to respond to the contents of the arguments that these Christians (including myself) post instead of resorting to ad hominems?
First of all, did i claim that you're an atheist? Crony defined here. Do you see anything in the definition about similar beliefs?
Second of all, judging fast and calling you atheist (if i did) does not compromise any morals.
Third of all, did i try to claim the higher moral ground? Didnt think so. Now you're misrepresenting me... 2 times some more ... no good.
Fourthly, i never claimed to be the perfect / model Christian. Like the apostle Paul, I confess to be the worst of sinners. in this case, there're several other character flaws i possess, judging too fast (if ever) is the least of my concerns.
Lastly, who's to determine fast or slow judging? You? Me? Plus you're forgetting that there're previous chat histories that i can look up...
Ad hominems? Where? Can you point out where did I use ad hominems in this topic? Please.
I asked you a simple question as to do you agree with that guy on his crusade a simple yes or not is only required but you just have to drag atheists in. If you aren't claiming that I'm an Atheist then what? You trying to make one's right with two wrongs?
Yes yes, previous chat histories...I wouldn't mind you looking it up as I don't think you mind when I look up yours.
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it seems 24/7 here like to perform false accusations
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Leng jing leng jing
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Originally posted by RoyFang:
Ad hominems? Where? Can you point out where did I use ad hominems in this topic? Please.
I asked you a simple question as to do you agree with that guy on his crusade a simple yes or not is only required but you just have to drag atheists in. If you aren't claiming that I'm an Atheist then what? You trying to make one's right with two wrongs?
Yes yes, previous chat histories...I wouldn't mind you looking it up as I don't think you mind when I look up yours.
I responded to Rooney9 "To reiterate, It's your right to believe that these people's beliefs should be kept in the private domain and away from the public arena, but in the same token, it is also their rights to be able to practise what they believe and preach to you."
Instead of addressing the contents of my answer, you point out character flaws of Christians in the forum and accused me of trying to claim the moral high ground --> ad hominem abusive. Was i talking to you? No. Did you address my response to Rooney9 directly? No. You commented on unrelated behaviour of other Christians which was an illogical comment too (because even if pp don't respond, can you jump to conclusion that they agree with that person's statement about the crusade?). Is it ad hominem? Yes.
I asked you a simple question as to do you agree with that guy on his crusade a simple yes or not is only required but you just have to drag atheists in.
mate, you didnt ask a simple (or innocent) question. If only.
You made a silly comment prior about Christians, I responded with an observation about atheists and asked you a follow up question if you agreed with your fellow cronies (no mention of similar beliefs). Did you respond to that question? No, yet another ad hominem followed - that I'm fast to judge, followed by me again trying to claim moral high ground. Anything about the contents so far? I believe you know the answer...
You trying to make one's right with two wrongs?
I didn't do anything wrong (in this case), make what right? I didn't accuse anyone (TWICE) of taking the moral high ground (Did you?). As a Christian, i believe i'm as wretched / sinful as my neighbours.
Yes yes, previous chat histories...I wouldn't mind you looking it up as I don't think you mind when I look up yours.
Look up lor. I don't believe in imposing my beliefs (or lack thereof) upon others. Have fun!
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No proof, only accuse other people nia, then when other people say back, say simi ad hominem
pui, i look down on such people
u dont believe in imposing ur beliefs but here you are doing that, even top up with false accusations
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Originally posted by 24/7:
I responded to Rooney9 "To reiterate, It's your right to believe that these people's beliefs should be kept in the private domain and away from the public arena, but in the same token, it is also their rights to be able to practise what they believe and preach to you."
Instead of addressing the contents of my answer, you point out character flaws of Christians in the forum and accused me of trying to claim the moral high ground --> ad hominem abusive. Was i talking to you? No. Did you address my response to Rooney9 directly? No. You commented on unrelated behaviour of other Christians which was an illogical comment too (because even if pp don't respond, can you jump to conclusion that they agree with that person's statement about the crusade?). Is it ad hominem? Yes.
mate, you didnt ask a simple (or innocent) question. If only.
You made a silly comment prior about Christians, I responded with an observation about atheists and asked you a follow up question if you agreed with your fellow cronies (no mention of similar beliefs). Did you respond to that question? No, yet another ad hominem followed - that I'm fast to judge, followed by me again trying to claim moral high ground. Anything about the contents so far? I believe you know the answer...
I didn't do anything wrong (in this case), make what right? I didn't accuse anyone (TWICE) of taking the moral high ground (Did you?). As a Christian, i believe i'm as wretched / sinful as my neighbours.
Look up lor. I don't believe in imposing my beliefs (or lack thereof) upon others. Have fun!
Maybe it's my bad for quoting the your whole reply, but I was replying to
haven't been to this forum in a long time and was surprised to see so many Christian bashers troll here. Funny thing is, this was supposed to be for Christians to encourage one another, as stated in the forum heading. I guess when something's unmoderated or unregulated, it starts to get out of hand. Typical human nature problem.
Funny that you leave out the rest of your reply...and focus only on one point.
Funny that you said even if people didn't respond, one can't jump to conclusion that they agree with that person yet you call them my cronies (which I don't agree they are my cronies)
Please point out my silly comment in here about Christians. Thank you.
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Originally posted by RoyFang:
Funny that you leave out the rest of your reply...and focus only on one point.
Just as it is hilarious that you would choose to ignore the other 2 arguments that i made and focussed on an observation that is true and undisputed.
1) Are there Christian bashers? Yes.
2) Is this a Christian forum? Yes. "For Christians to meet and talk"
3) Is it unmoderated and unregulated? Yes.
Funny that you said even if people didn't respond, one can't jump to conclusion that they agree with that person yet you call them my cronies (which I don't agree they are my cronies)
Refer to earlier definition on "crony". associate, mate (informal), pal (informal), companion, cock (Brit. informal), buddy (informal), comrade,chum (informal), accomplice, ally, sidekick (slang).
Choose from the above to substitute. I could use the word "associate" too but I felt "crony" had a better flavour to it.
mate, i didn't jump to any conclusion. If you zoom out your focus on the one word "crony" in that reply and read the last part where I asked you for verification, "For that matter, do you stand by some of the contradictory behaviour that your cronies are displaying?"
Please point out my silly comment in here about Christians. Thank you.
Refer previous reply. "You commented on unrelated behaviour of other Christians which was an illogical comment too (because even if pp don't respond, can you jump to conclusion that they agree with that person's statement about the crusade?)"
I'm seriously quite tired of picking up red herrings that you're leaving all over the place...
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Originally posted by RoyFang:
I find it shocking and unbelieveable that Christians in here aren't shocked by what some of their fellow Christians said, such as an crusade against Atheists. Do you agree with that guy? So much for trying to claim the higher moral ground...
'Crusade against atheists' is not said by some fellow Christians.
It came from the anti-Christian atheist website - www.thegoodatheist.net.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
'Crusade against atheists' is not said by some fellow Christians.
It came from the anti-Christian atheist website - www.thegoodatheist.net.
O.o google much ?
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its wrong
its more like crusade against non christians
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
'Crusade against atheists' is not said by some fellow Christians.
It came from the anti-Christian atheist website - www.thegoodatheist.net.
CLARIFICATION AND DISCLAIMER
I refer to the previous post which i had placed, i had mentioned as a crusade against atheists.
I DID NOT REFER TO ANY WEBPAGES, IT IS JUST MY OWN WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE PROCESS OF PREACHING TO NON CHRISTIANS.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
'Crusade against atheists' is not said by some fellow Christians.
It came from the anti-Christian atheist website - www.thegoodatheist.net.
Def much ?