My church every month the youth grows.
But all come on their own accord.
We don't really force them.
They ownself wanna believe.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Am I right on this?
I have heard that they need to at least convert one non Christian to Christian before they die in their entire life.
Nope. Infact some christians did not convert any non christian before they died.
We are active in sharing thats all. You go see my church, the old ladies joined themselves not caused by any one or the young children or son. Then they shared with their grandsons and sons.
Fact is, each and everyone has experienced it in public places, of people trying to persuade commuters to join. Irritating and annoying i call it. Unfair to those church that doesnt do that. But too bad really....
Originally posted by xXIron_fistXx:My church every month the youth grows.
But all come on their own accord.
We don't really force them.
They ownself wanna believe.
which church?
Originally posted by TTFU:Fact is, each and everyone has experienced it in public places, of people trying to persuade commuters to join. Irritating and annoying i call it. Unfair to those church that doesnt do that. But too bad really....
They have to do that or they will "fade away"... think those smaller churches.
and no one likes to fade away..................especially when money also fade away............
more members means more dough.............
Originally posted by As romanista2001:and no one likes to fade away..................especially when money also fade away............
more members means more dough.............
Yes, more members means more money. But what is it they do with the money, you must consider that as well.
Not just with churches but any group/associations. You have more people, it is not surprisingly you have a bigger budget.
It is a different thing however to be lavish about it.
You need to clear your stereotype especially since when people have already mentioned before to you examples that are outside of your stereotype. Not all churches are about money first and many churches do not even practice prosperity gospel. Something that has been brought up to you before.
And not all priests and pastors are like as you say, earning lots of money, driving big cars, living in condos.
If you would like, I can easily get you in contact with a few pastors of different churches and different denominations, and you can take a look at where their churches are and the size. I'm sure we can ask also if they'd be willing to let you visit their homes.
As Romanista, are you willing to take me up on that offer?
mai lah................i can't go anywhere anyway................i'm hooked up to a life-support machine.............
Originally posted by As romanista2001:mai lah................i can't go anywhere anyway................i'm hooked up to a life-support machine.............
why sia?
becoz wa ai si liao.......................
why so bad
someone curse u go die and rot in hell coz u no beliebe?
Originally posted by As romanista2001:mai lah................i can't go anywhere anyway................i'm hooked up to a life-support machine.............
Then at the very least I have offered to you. But honestly, would you like a visit then? I can try to ask and see what I can do.
Originally posted by laurence82:why so bad
someone curse u go die and rot in hell coz u no beliebe?
I'm sure you have seen one of my earlier posts, it is not that we curse you and wish for you to go there. It is a very different meaning altogether and I'm sure someone like you would know that.
If anything, we would rather you not go to hell.
But if you do not believe in heaven or hell, then what is it to you?
I repeat again, we do not curse you wanting you to be in hell or whatever.
It is like telling those people that if do really grevious deeds, they will receive worse punishment within the 18 depths in hell as compared to other people. Not that you want them to go there.
blah blah blah
in the end, short story is no beliebe then go and die and rot in hell
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Then at the very least I have offered to you. But honestly, would you like a visit then? I can try to ask and see what I can do.
my life support machine not portable leh..................
anyway, i got one neighbour who became a pastor AGAIN...............
don't ask me why he quit the 1st time round................and why he go back again...............
Originally posted by As romanista2001:
anyway, i got one neighbour who became a pastor AGAIN...............
sad life
Jesus was not persistent...HE was CONVINCING
Jesus was not persistent...HE was CONVINCING
Originally posted by laurence82:blah blah blah
in the end, short story is no beliebe then go and die and rot in hell
But we do not 'curse' you, or wish for you to go there. Very different meaning from what you originally said.
It is your freedom to choose whether or not you believe. I and many other Christians would respect your choice not to believe. As how we do with our own non-Christian friends or relatives.
yesh
i suspect telling someone to go to hell and rot is not cursing
cool
Originally posted by laurence82:yesh
i suspect telling someone to go to hell and rot is not cursing
cool
Again, like I said, very different meaning and implication. And you know it. We do not mean it as a curse wishing or wanting you to go there.
It is your freedom to choose whether or not you believe. I and many other Christians would respect your choice not to believe. As how we do with our own non-Christian friends or relatives.
Btw, no it is not cool to wish or tell people to rot in hell.
Again like i said
It seems telling people to go to hell and rot, its not cursing
I understand
Alamak
Originally posted by laurence82:Again like i said
It seems telling people to go to hell and rot, its not cursing
I understand
Alamak
No, it is not telling people to go and rot in hell either(if you want to be distinct with wording). Vey different meaning and implication.