Originally posted by Joolead:proof please.. no proof no believe.
You want to be a Christian, is it?
If you don't want to be, why the hell want proof of heaven from Christians.
You are such are narrow minded kid. There are so many interpretations of heaven from other faiths and culture.
Joolead since you like to swear, I won't be nice to you..
If you think there isn't any heaven, hell. Why don't you keep it to yourself instead of talking so much random trash in this forum? Plz look at the forum's title, it is for Christians. You're an unbeliever. So get the hell out of here and go home and whine at yourself concerning your in-jokes. I guess you are some nerd that can't socialize so you must have some fun crying and whining in some online forum and get mad at other people's religion. Why don't you go out and make some friends? We are not amused by your in-jokes. Please post your photos of your cute melon head and sissy voice so we can all have a good laugh. If you don't believe in god, don't believe it. Nobody cares and nobody will mind. If there isn't any god, good for you. If there is, remember that you will go to hell rather than heaven. Better to believe so that you won't fear death then disbelieving and thinking "where on earth I will go after I die." Eitherway, gtfo from this forum kid. Kthxbai
Joolead
keep up these provocative threads, bro....................the mindless goons are awakening...............
Sorry to intervene....
to those Christian here , i recommend all of us not to argue with those atheist there as these are exactly those people that had not been convicted by Holy Spirit of their sins to be aware of how wrong they are to post these. (John 16). In addition, we should try to preach to them, but be aware that salvation is by grace, if they do not believe, leave it. We should not keep on argue to them on and on as this thread will not have any conclusion and let them to be accountable to God on judgement day and be cast into the deeps of hell. We should also keep out of using vulgarities or etc when we are proposing our POV as god wants us to show compassion, be longsuffering, be forbearing to other. (Galatians 5).
God is merciful.
I never said I am.
But blessed are the losers. For they determine the winners.
Ts and most of the antagonists only do what they do best because there is no mod around. Its very typical of losers and wannabe's to act that way.Imagine ur ah-beng wannabe's. Yup... exactly the same. Its called 欺善怕�。 )
But I will entertain and show them the error of thier ways.
I feel so sad and sorry for them. Jesus say's turn the other cheek, maybe he meant it to those that do not know and are naive. But to scum sucking maggots like these guys, I say , bitch slap them down.
It is obvious u are not here to find answers but to demean people and thier respective religion.
*clap clap* bravo !
''salvation is by grace''.................
so can you get to the top of Mt Everest by sitting at the bottom ?
surely that should be easy since heaven is higher...
depending on some higher up to give you salvation..................does it even make sense ?
Originally posted by As romanista2001:''salvation is by grace''.................
so can you get to the top of Mt Everest by sitting at the bottom ?
surely that should be easy since heaven is higher...
depending on some higher up to give you salvation..................does it even make sense ?
Salvation is by grace, this is recorded lots of time in scriptures such as Ephesians 1-2. However, when we are saved by God, we should be aware and convicted of our sins (John 16) and put in our personal best to lead a godly life. In addition, if those Christians whom continue to sin or still stagnant in their walk with God should really reconsider that they are really saved or not. So, it is certainly not sitting there and do nothing and you will be to heaven, as the grace of god may not be truly on you then.
Anyway, the statements you make are baseless, see how i constructed my arguments, all are backed by scriptures. Thus, it make my arguments credible unlike yours which could be classified as "False teachers" as recorded in John 16 also
Originally posted by Joolead:another bullish and another smelly ass that grow on the mouth. sigh ‘fake thing’
Proof was never your intention, was it?
When was the last time you were contented?
I see you will always be hating yourself. Never happy.
hate what the fake thing har..hate only breed hate actually i don't hate but i love to f them.
.. if your dick can touch ass...please go a head.
sigh so many no ball fucker. can't proof still psycho pple...fuck you.
Originally posted by Joolead:hate what the fake thing har..hate only breed hate actually i don't hate but i love to f them.
.. if your dick can touch ass...please go a head.
sigh so many no ball fucker. can't proof still psycho pple...fuck you.
So I am right about you hating yourself.
Search Wikipedia on Near death experience(NDE) and it can prove that the tunnel of bright white light exist. On the otherhand , there is an increase number of people reporting of hell vision during NDE. Does that mean more people have sin?
If you still not convinced, see for yourself when you are dead.
http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/obvious_troll.jpg
a salesman demanding customers prove his products are not good
what a sick world that people are being asked to disprove things they have been pushed onto
Originally posted by mancha:So I am right about you hating yourself.
i don't hate little boy just i love f- them so call fake thing...fucker
Originally posted by Koyori:Search Wikipedia on Near death experience(NDE) and it can prove that the tunnel of bright white light exist. On the otherhand , there is an increase number of people reporting of hell vision during NDE. Does that mean more people have sin?
If you still not convinced, see for yourself when you are dead.
fuck you
Originally posted by Joolead:christian please proof that there is heaven not from the book (so call bible) or here say from someone else mouth.
the only way is christian please go and down from 12 storey . after dead liao and come to tell us with photo and video(we will burn for you the paper one if you need one.).
there is a book in the library presenting argument between creationist vs evolutionist.....
Originally posted by Joolead:fuck you
orh! u use F word. I tell FireIce!!
Originally posted by Honeybunz:
orh! u use F word. I tell FireIce!!
loser.
Originally posted by Joolead:
loser.
social outcast.
loser
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For anyone posting or making comments here, whatever faith or non-faith you may be.
Ask yourself this, are you really doing it to share and for the discussion itself? Or are you just all about the arguement itself.
To some people here more specifically and you know who you are. You try to make it seem as if you are being wronged or bullied, when your words and questions are more aimed to provoke more than anything. It's even worse when you know you can phrase things differently, yet you phrase it deliberately to provoke, to anger, to incite ill-feeling. Yet you go about accussing others of being trolls. The irony and hypocrysy of it all.
Theological debate here is moot in any case, because ultimately everybody here ends up in the same state of belief or non-belief. In any case, so often the debate goes haywire because of people who are all about the arguement and conflict rather than really trying to exchange ideas and understand the other. It's not just in this forum, it's in the whole of sgforums.
Ask yourself as well, are you just carrying out your own perverted and warped sense of 'justice'? Are you just ranting or are you truly trying to make a point and to tell the person something. Provoking thought is one thing, provoking ill-feeling is another.
You know yourself the intention of your posts, is it really to share and to communicate or is something more sinister that you mask with illusions of 'justice', 'truth' or 'righteousness'.
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As much as I understand the comment about salesmen and where that person is coming from, it actually isn't very valid, not here at least anyway.
For one thing, to assume that Christians by default hard-sell their faith is wrong.
It's not like the Christian in question receives any monetary benefit and if you talk about divine benefits, well, if you don't believe in God then obviously the person is not getting benefits either.
Besides, the person has only been trying to answer questions in response and provide points for consideration. Moreover has done so in as much good faith as possible, but even that person's patience and goodwill has been worn thin.
It is in contrast (with respect to this topic) a few of the non-Christians (notifbly not all), who are trying to push their agenda upon others, by being mean, rude in response. That is the irony of it.
I am quite sure in general here none of the Christians here expect any of you to 'buy' into anything or to really believe. But since questions have been asked, some have tried to answer politely.
Yet there are those who are rude, made snide insinuating remarks and intentionally phrase things with every intention to provoke the same people who have tried to be patient in their replies.
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Likewise, those who are posting just to make insults to the other, be it Christian or non-Christian are not doing right by anyone or anything either. At least to me they aren't. Likewise for those responding in only anger and wrath or in retaliation, it doesn't mean they are in the right either.
You talk about being objectice, about not being blind, yet your blind hatred and the way you respond is exactly like those you are complaining about.