christian please proof there is heaven
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Originally posted by the Bear:
i'll just say this... what is faith?
if you know and practise it, concrete proof is moot...
if you know yet reject it, concrete proof isn't enough...
proof please.. no proof no believe.
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Originally posted by iceFatboy:
sorry, i am not reading tons of report, I would want to see proper scientiific reports that documents as per your claims.
similarily, there are tons of reports about big foot, loch ness, but sadly, no scientific reports till date. No offense meant.
there are plenty. just search dr. ian stevenson or research on reincarantion. link one for you to see.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html
how come no one reply me on the confidence in going to heaven ? so confidence of going to heaven, how come still pray for long life and go for body check up every year ?
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haha stupid idiots here who cannot respect another religion. I wonder what their fucking religion taught them.
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Originally posted by Joolead:
sigh.. cannot proof lor say until so much ...If there is GOD why do world 1 and 2 happen. don't tell me it is god plan and game .keep your bullshit faith to yourself and stop psychos to join your bullshit faith where it only aim to take money from people else hard earn pocket and make people lazy by praying and thing will happen.
sucker...fuck your faith out here
How about u.. SHUT THE FUCK UP
and
SIT THE FUCK DOWN.
How about I shift the onus to you by proving that there is NO HEAVEN then ? Prove it boy.
Jump 12 storeys. I will burn you a phone and some communication device to let us know. How about a laptop ?
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becos i don't believe so i don't need to proof to you fucker asshole and a sucker with big mouth...hahaha proof your faith to me boy..since you are a christian .proof it men why got no ball har...
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So what is a scum sucking maggot like u doing in here then ? U know u can always.. get the FUCK OUT of here u know ?
But unless of course, u are here with the intention to do what u are doing now.
Its faith. U dont need to prove it. Only a dumbass like you will think otherwise.
Men got no ball hair because because all thier ball hair is on the heads of people like you.Touch ur head now.. u feel it ? Its coarse and rough. Like my pube hair.
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prove to me that i am eating macdonals. You cant. You suck
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There is heaven and there is hell.
Not only Christians believe in that. There are others of different faiths also believe in that.
Before proving or disproving heaven or hell. Firstly you must know what they are. Without knowing what they are, how in the world are you going to prove any thing.
Example. Prove sisuxkraz exist. Just what is sisuxkraz? You gotta know what it is first.
What is heaven? What is hell? To you. Find out for yourself. Don't say people say this and people say that, you got brains, go find out.
Proof, if proof you want, remember people got some stones that can prove you got cancer.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
there are plenty. just search dr. ian stevenson or research on reincarantion. link one for you to see.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html
how come no one reply me on the confidence in going to heaven ? so confidence of going to heaven, how come still pray for long life and go for body check up every year ?
thanks for sharing.
Well, I may not be the most knowledgeable person, but hopefully, I can give you a rational answer.
I know that be it heaven/hell, I have to die first before I go into the next stage. This is unavoidable.
However, I am not a single entity that exists on this earth without any memories, interactions or relationships like perhaps a block of wood or a slab of cement.Just like now, we are interacting. For me, I strive to live longer even when I know I am going to heaven, cause I want to stay longer here with what I have now, my family, life, experiences and my world. I know where the exit is, but it doesn't mean I can't live responsibly.
Even for you, U know you are dying as we speak, do you still make choices of what to eat/drink/wear, and go? Why do you do that? Why do you work/study?Why do you question whether there is heaven/hell? Will an answer sway where you are going? Why don't you go to one corner, and just wait for that final breath? And maybe, U will see light or maybe you will see flames..
Now, for me, do I need someone to prove that heaven exist? or for that matter, hell? Not really. Cause I know when I breathe my last breath, it will come to me. Anything else at that pt in time is really secondary. Don't you agree?
No offense.
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No point to bash people here, respect other people and their choice of religion. Prove to me the statement i made is false. You cant ? You suck !
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HAHAHA prove to me im lying on th bed :D can you ?
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Originally posted by TTFU:
No point to bash people here, respect other people and their choice of religion. Prove to me the statement i made is false. You cant ? You suck !
hi, hopefully, i did not bash anyone esp TS. No offense.
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now sch holiday issit?
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Troll holiday today
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Originally posted by iceFatboy:
sorry, i am not reading tons of report, I would want to see proper scientiific reports that documents as per your claims.
similarily, there are tons of reports about big foot, loch ness, but sadly, no scientific reports till date. No offense meant.
i like these 3 stories best, maybe you might have read about them..........
A) in a science journal article, a woman claimed that she was a rare reptile (i can't remember which one) in a previous life and she went on to describe the different parts of the reptile, she then mentioned a certain part of the animal that was previously unknown to science.
the scientists then examined a specimen of the rare reptile and were shocked to discover the woman was right.
B) this story was reported widely in US.............
a boy repeatedly dreamt and drew pictures of a battle scene in the Philippines during World War 2..............he told his parents he was a pilot that was killed by the Japs.
they then brought the boy to meet the surviving pilots of the squadron that took part in the battle and upon knowing the names of the pilots, the boy was able to call them by their nicknames ! the boy also described what took place at the air base prior to the war and the pilots all agree the boy was indeed the dead pilot becoz no one would have known the details.
the boy later met the surviving sister of the dead pilot and he knew the woman's nickname. the boy also talked about 2 paintings that their mother painted before the war which only the sister and the dead pilot knew about ! the sister also said that the boy is her late brother.
C) this story was made into a documentary................
5 or 6 yr-old Scottish boy talked about his ''other'' family and house on an isle that he's never been to and the mother brought him there. they found the house and it was exactly as the boy described including all the nooks and crannies and the 3 toilets in it.
they found relatives of the house owners and found family photos showing the big blue car and white and black dog which the boy had talked about !
the boy also had PRE-BIRTH memories..............when his mom asked him how he came to be her son, he said he simply fell into her tummy.
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No point aruging in this thread.
Mod, lock it.
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no use running away from it.........later someone will open a similar thread again...............
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I have already said it. concept of god was created and invented by men, period.
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
So what is a scum sucking maggot like u doing in here then ? U know u can always.. get the FUCK OUT of here u know ?
But unless of course, u are here with the intention to do what u are doing now.
Its faith. U dont need to prove it. Only a dumbass like you will think otherwise.
Men got no ball hair because because all thier ball hair is on the heads of people like you.Touch ur head now.. u feel it ? Its coarse and rough. Like my pube hair.
haha no ball ...fucker
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Actually, most people on Earth believes in Heaven and Hell.
Those that don't believe now will believe sooner or later when they started to experienc either one of them.
That is why I will always feel that there is no need to proof anything, they can see/feel for themselves eventually.
Personally, my own experience of Heaven is that it is a bright huge space with very little visible objects.... just like living in an endless sky. I felt very peaceful and light-hearted, as if there is no weight on me. You can certainly "fly" around in Heaven.
As for Hell, I can't recall much at this moment, perhaps later...
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why dun those who go to heaven come back to tell us there is a heaven lol?
what about those people who go to hell? are they able to come back to tell us what is it like in hell?
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Originally posted by TTFU:
Troll holiday today
Troll alert.
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Originally posted by SoulDivine:
Actually, most people on Earth believes in Heaven and Hell.
Those that don't believe now will believe sooner or later when they started to experienc either one of them.
That is why I will always feel that there is no need to proof anything, they can see/feel for themselves eventually.
Personally, my own experience of Heaven is that it is a bright huge space with very little visible objects.... just like living in an endless sky. I felt very peaceful and light-hearted, as if there is no weight on me. You can certainly "fly" around in Heaven.
As for Hell, I can't recall much at this moment, perhaps later...
sound interesting but your description of heaven is different from those who claim that they went to heaven when they had near death experience. which religion you belong to? may be different religion have their own heaven. buddhism says there are 33 heavens, i think is true.
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"It is wrong always, everywhere and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence." - W.K. Clifford.
I think the idea about not believing something unless there's proof can be summed up in this quote. But problem is, where is the proof and empirical evidence to back up this claim too? Even if there's proof / evidence, what can we conclusively state? Ultimately, proof and evidence are uninterpretable unless by the presuppositions of the one who makes the interpretations.
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Heaven should be regarded as a personal idea or experience rather than a phyiscal location.
If you had been to a place where you wanted to stay there forever, that place is your Heaven, not mine or others.
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