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Saving yourself

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 01:50

  How to Save Yourself

  Oneself, indeed, is one's savior, for what other savior would there be? With oneself well controlled the problem of looking for external savior is solved.

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 01:58

  It is the same with studying for exams. can anyone other than yourself, study on behalf of youself? When you are hungry, can anyone eat on your behalf to alleviate your hunger? answer is no.

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:00

  Got saviour save what for save yourself.   Jesus is the saviour.

  wu wuwuw

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:00

  when you are driving 200 kmh on the road, can you pray to god to guarantee your safety, from crashes? hell no. when you are driving 200 kmh, you are more likely to get killed on the road, unless you decrease your speed to 80-100 kmh.

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:01

  the saviour is me, myself and I

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:09

  Man himself is the maker of his own destiny. He has none to blame for his lot since he alone is responsible for his own life. He makes his own life for better or for worse. Man creates everything. All our griefs, perils and misfortunes are of our own creation.

   

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:10

  Christianity the main focus is God/Jesus.  

  Trolls, have you anything to debate on my above statement?

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:12

  Yes I know. god religion is a very old religion in fact. before the advent of christianity or Judaism, there are many religions with god concept. Hinduism has a history of some 5000 years old. 

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:13

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  Yes I know. god religion is a very old religion in fact. before the advent of christianity or Judaism, there are many religions with god concept. Hinduism has a history of some 5000 years old. 

  
  I don't know much about hinduism?   Do they have a God to head it?

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:15

  New International Version (©1984)
  "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:16

  Originally posted by Dondontan:

  
  I don't know much about hinduism?   Do they have a God to head it?

  krishna and shiva.

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:18

  You should read Dr K Sri Dhammananda topic, The God-Idea

  Its a very good read. here the link, http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1728/topics/394732

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:19

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  krishna and shiva.

  
  oops, I see.

  What about those deities like the elephant god?

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:21

  Originally posted by Dondontan:

  
  oops, I see.

  What about those deities like the elephant god?

  Hinduism a lot of god one

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:22

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  Hinduism a lot of god one

  Hinduism not related to buddhism?  I am confused.

  Thank goodness you reply me and not bash me.    

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:22

  to me, whether one god or many gods, the concept is still the same. we humans are wierd. we have our latent potential to do wonders, why do we need to seek salvation from external sources?

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:24

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  to me, whether one god or many gods, the concept is still the same. we humans are wierd. we have our latent potential to do wonders, why do we need to seek salvation from external sources?

  
  I don't know.  Different religions different practices and theory

  Don't talk like that later the 3 stooges come after you.

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:25

  mankind has come a long way since 2000 years ago isnt it. we now have aeroplanes, ships, spaceships even, trains etc etc. did god ever help us one bit, contribution to science and technology? no. not only did god did not help, but it hindered and spread superstitions to a vast number of people.

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:27

  so what do u think of the message I posted. interesting anecdote isnt it.

  Oneself, indeed, is one's savior, for what other savior would there be? With oneself well controlled the problem of looking for external savior is solved.

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:32

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  mankind has come a long way since 2000 years ago isnt it. we now have aeroplanes, ships, spaceships even, trains etc etc. did god ever help us one bit, contribution to science and technology? no. not only did god did not help, but it hindered and spread superstitions to a vast number of people.

  
  I heard of God's miracles.    God helped a few of my friends.

  Anyway, the choice is ours to decide what to believe.

• Dondontan

  2 Apr 10, 02:33

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  so what do u think of the message I posted. interesting anecdote isnt it.

  Oneself, indeed, is one's savior, for what other savior would there be? With oneself well controlled the problem of looking for external savior is solved.

  
  It is very much base on what does one does to control his problem, what mindset, what motivation, what theory, what values and on and on.

• Rooney9

  2 Apr 10, 02:40

  Faith healing -- a psychological approach.

  The practice of faith-healing is prevalent in many countries. Many people are trying to influence the public through emotional persuasion designated as faith-healing. In order to impress on their patients the efficacy of their healing powers, some faith-healers use the name of a god or a religious object to introduce a religious flavor into their faith healing methods. The introduction of religion into faith-healing is actually a guise or a decoy to beguile the patient into developing more devotion and enhance the confidence or faith of the patient in the faith-healer. This healing act, if performed in public is intended to get converts to a particular religious denomination. In actual fact, in so far as faith-healing is concerned, religion is not all that important. There are numerous cases of faith-healers performing their faith-healing acts without using religion at all. A case in point is the science of hypnotism, the practice of which involves no religious aspects at all. Those who associate religion with faith-healing are in a way engaging in a subtle form of illusion trying to attract converts to their particular religion by making use of faith healing and describing certain cures as miraculous acts.

  The methods employed by faith healers are to condition the minds of patients into having a certain mental attitude with the result that certain favorable psychological and physiological changes invariably take place. This attracts the condition of the mind, the heart, the consequent blood circulation and other related organic functions of the body, thus creating a feeling of a sense of well-being. If sickness is attributed to the condition of the mind, then the mind can certainly be properly conditioned to assist in eradicating whatever illness that may occur. In this context, it is to be noted that the constant and regular practice of meditation can help to minimize, if not to completely eradicate, various forms of illnesses.

• Fairyfairy86

  2 Apr 10, 19:59

  Originally posted by Dondontan:

  
  I heard of God's miracles.    God helped a few of my friends.

  Anyway, the choice is ours to decide what to believe.

  miracles and faith healing  happen in all the religions. everyone claim that and again here the question is, which religion is the most superior and which god is the most powerful since it happen in all the religions.

• googoomuck

  2 Apr 10, 21:18

  Originally posted by Rooney9:

  the saviour is me, myself and I

  haiz.....you cannot even save your balding head.....maybe Yun Nam can, maybe

• breytonhartge

  3 Apr 10, 00:23

  Originally posted by Dondontan:

  Christianity the main focus is God/Jesus.  

  Trolls, have you anything to debate on my above statement?

  if as you say the main focus is on G_d and Yeshua, then pray tell, why are they not following G_d's ways?