Originally posted by Rooney9:if thats your worldview, how sad, injust and unfair in your world system.
Well, your alternate worldview is not that just and fair either in your world system
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Well, it really doesnt matter to me if other religion do not agree to that. Its up to you guys to discover. Not me.
Thats why, by the time you see hell, its a truth, known too late.
there you go again. I rest my case here. bashing forum, you bet
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Thats why, by the time you see hell, its a truth, known too late
Thanks for proving my point
This is the exact reason why there is Christian bashing
Because of that holier than thou attitude
Not because of your religion or your god.
Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:I think the problem here is...there are many incidences of Christians or Catholics or Protestants....going around telling others that their beliefs are shit and that they will go to hell... You don't see the Buddists or Muslims doing that right? This is why people of other beliefs have such a bad impression of Christianity.
Personally, I have been harassed many times before by "messagers of the Church" trying to save my soul by forcing me to share the same beliefs.
By the way, I do not believe that God will be so egoistic as to demand that everyone believes in him. Also I don't think he'll be so tryrannical and petty, and throw non-believers into hell without taking their entire lives into account. If such a God exists, I'll much rather not believe in him. If the way to heaven is by signing up for a 'membership' with God, then I guess I'll rather go to hell than be stuck with hypocrites for the rest of eternity.
yes you are spot on. membership, MLM, use of fear comes to mind. as I mentioned earlier, what kind of world and god is this system, where god save only the people of his religion and condemn all else. I dunno why people can accept this type of reality so wholeheartedly. beats me. what rationale and intelligence are there to speak of?
Originally posted by Rooney9:yes you are spot on. membership, MLM, use of fear comes to mind. as I mentioned earlier, what kind of world and god is this system, where god save only the people of his religion and condemn all else. I dunno why people can accept this type of reality so wholeheartedly. beats me. what rationale and intelligence are there to speak of?
Some are easy victims of brainwashing. Repeat the same for many times, it will become a fact.
Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:I think the problem here is...there are many incidences of Christians or Catholics or Protestants....going around telling others that their beliefs are shit and that they will go to hell... You don't see the Buddists or Muslims doing that right? This is why people of other beliefs have such a bad impression of Christianity.
Personally, I have been harassed many times before by "messagers of the Church" trying to save my soul by forcing me to share the same beliefs.
By the way, I do not believe that God will be so egoistic as to demand that everyone believes in him. Also I don't think he'll be so tryrannical and petty, and throw non-believers into hell without taking their entire lives into account. If such a God exists, I'll much rather not believe in him. If the way to heaven is by signing up for a 'membership' with God, then I guess I'll rather go to hell than be stuck with hypocrites for the rest of eternity.
Instead of looking at the surface, why not look at the way they are taught ?
Maybe the group leaders did not properly tell the message correctly ?
If thats the way they spread the message, and the consequences of it, they will pay in this life or the other.
I just find it funny how u guys react. Focusing on all the negative and the bad. Losing sight of those that do NOT do what these people are doing. Its not suprising you guys only focus on the bad... the dread.. a topic to bash them back. Thats why i do not see any difference between those believers and non-believers.
I dont see u guys give any brownie points to those good christians that doesnt preach the way they do or impose thier will on you to be given some of that benefit of the doubt right ? haha.. talk about hypocrasy.
Heaven and hell is here and now.
You are in heaven or hell here and now, in the precise degree in co-relation to your circumstances.
Religion try to help you improve the odds against hell, or help you bear with hell.
All religion espouses honesty, hardwork, care, thrift, and other virtues, for what purpose?
To see that you have more of heaven than hell.
All arguments about God and heaven springs from shallow minds.
@ Rooney9 Guess we'll have to rot in hell together then
Originally posted by Rooney9:that means how ignorant you and your kind is in regards to other faith, sad to say.
The advise is all good ? Thanks?
But maybe u should listen to your own advise as well.
I shall go Buddhism forum take a look.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:The advise is all good ? Thanks?
But maybe u should listen to your own advise as well.
Wrong spelling.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Instead of looking at the surface, why not look at the way they are taught ?
Maybe the group leaders did not properly tell the message correctly ?
If thats the way they spread the message, and the consequences of it, they will pay in this life or the other.
I just find it funny how u guys react. Focusing on all the negative and the bad. Losing sight of those that do NOT do what these people are doing. Its not suprising you guys only focus on the bad... the dread.. a topic to bash them back. Thats why i do not see any difference between those believers and non-believers.
I dont see u guys give any brownie points to those good christians that doesnt preach the way they do or impose thier will on you to be given some of that benefit of the doubt right ? haha.. talk about hypocrasy.
Well...I don't see you saying anything good about other religions as well
Talk about double standards
Originally posted by Rooney9:there you go again. I rest my case here. bashing forum, you bet
What ? Did i say something wrong ?
If u go to hell, and u see the gates of hell, tell me, its not a truth known too late ? Or did i say something wrong.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:What ? Did i say something wrong ?
If u go to hell, and u see the gates of hell, tell me, its not a truth known too late ? Or did i say something wrong.
Do you want to come with me to take a look at buddhism forum?
I want to see how the buddhists behave in the buddhism forum.
Originally posted by Dondontan:
Some are easy victims of brainwashing. Repeat the same for many times, it will become a fact.
yes you are spot on again. generations after generations, decades after decades, milleniums after milleniums
Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
Thanks for proving my pointThis is the exact reason why there is Christian bashing
Because of that holier than thou attitude
Not because of your religion or your god.
Proving ur point in the holier than thou attitude ?
Did i say something wrong?
If u see the gates of hell in front of you, tell me then, that its not a truth known too late if u dont believe in hell.
If u think that statement i made, is a holier than thou attitude, by all means.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:What ? Did i say something wrong ?
If u go to hell, and u see the gates of hell, tell me, its not a truth known too late ? Or did i say something wrong.
Why do you automatically assume that people who do not believe in "your god" will go to hell? Why don't you fear for your own soul instead
I do not believe that people will go to heaven or hell because of their beliefs. I trust that whichever God is out there will judge people fairly based on their merits. If not...then I guess I'll just have to do a Lucifer
Originally posted by Dondontan:
Wrong spelling.
Thanks for the advice.
Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:Well...I don't see you saying anything good about other religions as well
Talk about double standards
Wow, n u read all my posts ?
What if i did ? If i did ? Are u going to eat back ur vomit ?
Originally posted by BadzMaro:What ? Did i say something wrong ?
If u go to hell, and u see the gates of hell, tell me, its not a truth known too late ? Or did i say something wrong.
No I was refering to your kind telling people of other faith you are going to hell and your religion is satanic.
Originally posted by Dondontan:
Do you want to come with me to take a look at buddhism forum?I want to see how the buddhists behave in the buddhism forum.
Well, the main difference is that they have Mod. There is NO mod here.
And i have been to the buddhism forum.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Well, the main difference is that they have Mod. There is NO mod here.
And i have been to the buddhism forum.
It is a whole world of difference in the Buddhism forum not because of the presence of the mod.
you say there is god, heaven, hell and satan. show proof. if you can show proof, we wont be debating all these while isnt it.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Wow, n u read all my posts ?
What if i did ? If i did ? Are u going to eat back ur vomit ?
Well if you can't take criticism or feedback then don't post
Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:Why do you automatically assume that people who do not believe in "your god" will go to hell? Why don't you fear for your own soul instead
I do not believe that people will go to heaven or hell because of their beliefs. I trust that whichever God is out there will judge people fairly based on their merits. If not...then I guess I'll just have to do a Lucifer
I mean its not wrong for u to believe that. Hell, i believe in non-believers that never had a chance to believe in God or Jesus a chance to heaven.
But the only problem is, we think we can totally comprehend God. We are setting Man's limits on God. lol. We are talking about an Omniscient being. Problem is also that we are NOT Omniscient, so how the hell can we think like an Omniscient ? hahaha
Trying to think like a criminal when u are not a criminal.