Originally posted by breytonhartge:Hence the instruction not to take of the tree of good and evil. It is not the same as your analogy of the gun and the baby.. the baby does not understand what is being said, Adam and Hava did understand that they were not to take of the tree of good and evil.. yet they disobeyed.
Would you say that this would be an attempt to control through ignorance? If so then the attempts of Pol Pot to make the population ignorant would be justifiable. How would Adam and Eve know that disobeying was an evil act if they did not know whats right and wrong?
Originally posted by Rooney9:thats bull.
Genesis 11:6-8. Read it
Originally posted by Dreamwerkz:I won't generalise but there is a tendency that if the murderer has the intention to change himself for the better, he will need that forgiveness & acceptance to start all over again, to do even more good. Reminds me of the yellow ribbon project.
Of course as for those who has no intention to change, we can forget about it. But what about those who wants to change themselves for the better but not given the chance? That is why ex convicts who are unaccepted in the society often goes back to their destructive lives & certainly we don't need the Bible to explain the importance of Grace & Forgiveness.
An ex convict church member ever shared a testimony of a cellmate who accepted Christ upon his death sentence. At 1st he was scared of death. He could'nt sleep & he kept having nightmares for the murder which he commited. But after his acceptance of the Lord he went to bed & had a sound sleep on the eve of his execution.On the day of his execution, he smiled & thanked this brother for taking care of him. He said that the Lord forgiven him of his murder & he felt so good. His burden is gone. He also said that he is not afraid of death anymore & he will soon go meet the Lord.
This experience impacted this brother alot & he also believed in Jesus. His attitude towards life changed. He managed to build a career despite of his criminal records & he started a family as well. Although all these is normal for ordinary folks but for someone with criminal records, these are great achievements. This brother now often speaks at Christian seminars & he often ministers to the inmates at the prisons, inspiring lives.
Amazing Grace How Great Thou Art That Saved A Wretch Like Me.
I think that effect would be achieved with most religions, not restricted only to Christianity. It would not be a very strong example.
Originally posted by 1985ong:I can tell you that the least spiritually bondage radio station is Gold 90.5FM.That is why most Singaporeans listen to this station.
i read anymore of this i go mad
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:Would you say that this would be an attempt to control through ignorance? If so then the attempts of Pol Pot to make the population ignorant would be justifiable. How would Adam and Eve know that disobeying was an evil act if they did not know whats right and wrong?
The more I read the story of Adam & Eve the more I believe God felt threatened by his creation attaining enlightenment that will make Adam and Eve on the same level as God...if not, why the harsh punishment (curse) that is to be bore by their descendants too?
Originally posted by RoyFang:The more I read the story of Adam & Eve the more I believe God felt threatened by his creation attaining enlightenment that will make Adam and Eve on the same level as God...if not, why the harsh punishment (curse) that is to be bore by their descendants too?
if human can be same as god...then what is god?