Originally posted by laurence82:what sort?
Who knows. Just my guess.
Almost all christians are insenstive and rude. Frankly i also think most people don't understand and follow the truth teaching of Christ any more. They can be jumping and leaping and praising God, but it is insult to language to classify them as saints. Religion is a stumbling block; it made you think you are safe that you are on the way to heaven and you an impression that your religion is superior reality of all things. If you want to be good guy, be good :)
Originally posted by tim2010:Almost all christians are insenstive and rude. Frankly i also think most people don't understand and follow the truth teaching of Christ any more. They can be jumping and leaping and praising God, but it is insult to language to classify them as saints. Religion is a stumbling block; it made you think you are safe that you are on the way to heaven and you an impression that your religion is superior reality of all things. If you want to be good guy, be good :)
Please do not put your thought into people mindset of what you think you is the right path.I believed what you pursuing is obtaining self righteousness displaying you are on the right path.The greatest of all is to love people and forgive them for wrong doing inspite of speaking the truth yet presenting it in a wrong ways.I love the Pastor having the courage admit his wrong doing and make an apologize to the affected parties.Only carnal people want the justification and the penalty for a mistake he made since he already made an amendment.
have a friend, he attend a talk, and experienced similar insensitive speech in another Church. The audience laughing, clapping hands and enjoying the talk by a Pastor. People are leading into the wrong path. Kind of sad to hear that from my friend.
Originally posted by likeyou:have a friend, he attend a talk, and experienced similar insensitive speech in another Church. The audience laughing, clapping hands and enjoying the talk by a Pastor. People are leading into the wrong path. Kind of sad to hear that from my friend.
It vital for your friend to attend a church which focus on the gospel of Jesus,otherwise you will get misleaded by those preaching.May be you can try my church and you very much welcome.
Originally posted by Rooney9:I advise you do not feed that troll. that troll and rony are of the same kind.
Hahahah
While it's heartening that not all Singaporean Christians are like that pastor or his followers but while religious harmony is something that we instill to reduce the impact of religious conflicts it's sad that sometimes it's used to cover up actions of bigots like this pastor.
I always have been suspicious of churches today, the way they tries to modernize the religion or those Mega-Churches...sadly religions of today's world haven been constantly used for wrong-doings.
Originally posted by Wacky Sung:It vital for your friend to attend a church which focus on the gospel of Jesus,otherwise you will get misleaded by those preaching.May be you can try my church and you very much welcome.
Thanks alot.
I am faithful to my religion.
Thks again.
And this is why theres still plenty of wars going on....SIGH
Arrogance,Stupidity,Pride,Politics.....LOL,take your pick.
In the end, we're full of excuses.
Problem I feel sometimes, especially in the modern evangelical movement is this need to try to control what the members think. It's an extremely disturbing trend.
In my previous church, there was a very strong thought police in action. Just about hint that you thought different was reason enough to earn the disapproval or alienation of the group, and they'll constantly try to make life difficult for you, simply by being of the belief that since you thought differently on an issue, you were somehow less important then those.
So no, I am not too surprised such an attitude would carry on to other things.
Originally posted by RoyFang:While it's heartening that not all Singaporean Christians are like that pastor or his followers but while religious harmony is something that we instill to reduce the impact of religious conflicts it's sad that sometimes it's used to cover up actions of bigots like this pastor.
I always have been suspicious of churches today, the way they tries to modernize the religion or those Mega-Churches...sadly religions of today's world haven been constantly used for wrong-doings.
I dun agree with u for some reason
Going by this forum alone most xtians are on defensive mode or being apathetic, and its a defensive sort of apathy where they would say the approach is wrong, big bro is watching or they would just chide anyone flaming the pastor like wacky sung here
Flaming other religion is wrong in all sense, doesnt matter whats the approach or whether anyone is watching or what
Its frustrating to see the reaction from xtians are less than assuring
Originally posted by laurence82:I dun agree with u for some reason
Going by this forum alone most xtians are on defensive mode or being apathetic, and its a defensive sort of apathy where they would say the approach is wrong, big bro is watching or they would just chide anyone flaming the pastor like wacky sung here
Flaming other religion is wrong in all sense, doesnt matter whats the approach or whether anyone is watching or what
Its frustrating to see the reaction from xtians are less than assuring
Well said. YOu go Buddhism forum go read what Wacky Sung said you will know.
It is partially the bible that motivate them to be so.
Originally posted by Wacky Sung:Please do not put your thought into people mindset of what you think you is the right path.I believed what you pursuing is obtaining self righteousness displaying you are on the right path.The greatest of all is to love people and forgive them for wrong doing inspite of speaking the truth yet presenting it in a wrong ways.I love the Pastor having the courage admit his wrong doing and make an apologize to the affected parties.Only carnal people want the justification and the penalty for a mistake he made since he already made an a
funny you should say this, because it is exactly this your kind has been sprouting all along, like your religion is satanic blah blah blah. when I read your first line, I got goose bumps. you have the cheek to tell others, but you failed to see the same logic applying back.
Originally posted by Rooney9:funny you should say this, because it is exactly this your kind has been sprouting all along, like your religion is satanic blah blah blah. when I read your first line, I got goose bumps. you have the cheek to tell others, but you failed to see the same logic applying back.
I fear not because i am confident of my personal belief.I learn to love people as i never force or criticize of other their personal choice of belief if they likewise choose not to believe in what i am believing and that's fine.If people down here has crossed the line and they are accountable for the posting they made.I come here to share my thought and belief.If you come to make personal attack if you choose not to believe in my belief, then be mindful of your action because you are trackable.
Originally posted by Wacky Sung:I fear not because i am confident of my personal belief.I learn to love people as i never force or criticize of other their personal choice of belief if they likewise choose not to believe in what i am believing and that's fine.If people down here has crossed the line and they are accountable for the posting they made.I come here to share my thought and belief.If you come to make personal attack if you choose not to believe in my belief, then be mindful of your action because you are trackable.
Please admit that God is wrong and that all religions are the cause of suffering of man today.
Originally posted by laurence82:I dun agree with u for some reason
Going by this forum alone most xtians are on defensive mode or being apathetic, and its a defensive sort of apathy where they would say the approach is wrong, big bro is watching or they would just chide anyone flaming the pastor like wacky sung here
Flaming other religion is wrong in all sense, doesnt matter whats the approach or whether anyone is watching or what
Its frustrating to see the reaction from xtians are less than assuring
I believe they are doing this because they felt victimized, I mean some of them think we, agnostics, atheists, free-thinker etc. "destroy" the society and "overthrew" Christianity...
They just can't stand us expressing our doubts about their religions while not hesitating to flame our beliefs.
When I said that Christians yearn for a dictatorship under God (which is true) in another forum, you should see some of their replies. I don't think I'm flaming them by saying that.
Originally posted by RoyFang:I believe they are doing this because they felt victimized, I mean some of them think we, agnostics, atheists, free-thinker etc. "destroy" the society and "overthrew" Christianity...
They just can't stand us expressing our doubts about their religions while not hesitating to flame our beliefs.
When I said that Christians yearn for a dictatorship under God (which is true) in another forum, you should see some of their replies. I don't think I'm flaming them by saying that.
They just want one world under God.
Originally posted by Wacky Sung:LOL..what Pastor Rony preached is the truth as the content can only be preached through a personal approached in this religious sensitive society, especially with those religious extremist around.
what truth? you, rony and joseph are the same, know nothing about buddhism. go and read up before you said rony said about buddhism is truth.
1) buddhism advise their followers how to change their fate and not submit to fate but that joseph said differently.
2) buddha did not say he was still searching for the way before he passed away but that rony said buddha said that.
many more too lazy to tell you. you are brainwashed by pastor who are like rony. can't blame you but pity you lol.
Originally posted by Wacky Sung:I fear not because i am confident of my personal belief.I learn to love people as i never force or criticize of other their personal choice of belief if they likewise choose not to believe in what i am believing and that's fine.If people down here has crossed the line and they are accountable for the posting they made.I come here to share my thought and belief.If you come to make personal attack if you choose not to believe in my belief, then be mindful of your action because you are trackable.
your christians brothers and sisters also flame other religions. worse still your religion flame other religions by saying they will be going to hell after death. they are also trackable.
Never ending...in fact, other pastors are doing the same as what my friend encountered. Sigh! Is that the way to preach the christians?
Originally posted by Wacky Sung:Please do not put your thought into people mindset of what you think you is the right path.I believed what you pursuing is obtaining self righteousness displaying you are on the right path.The greatest of all is to love people and forgive them for wrong doing inspite of speaking the truth yet presenting it in a wrong ways.I love the Pastor having the courage admit his wrong doing and make an apologize to the affected parties.Only carnal people want the justification and the penalty for a mistake he made since he already made an amendment.
he is better than rony. rony puts words into buddha's mouth saying buddha said he was still searching for the way. go and tell rony lah don't put words in buddha's mouth.
Originally posted by Larryteo:EASY. He has relations with LKY.
so the pastor is telling his mindless followers to vote for PAP lah.................
Like what they say empty vessel makes the most noise.
Indeed he's just a very hollow person,
how could he even be a pastor without having the basic respect for others?
He even said he only had brief knowledge on buddhism practice?
Yet he dare to criticise their religion.
I thought its common sense that u get the facts right before getting to a conclusion.
This incident actually put christianity in a very bad light.
How can a religion leader make such remarks about other religions.
He's a disgrace to the christian community in Singapore.
AND THIS INCREASE MY HATRED AND EXTEND THE BAD IMPRESSION I HAVE OF THE PASTORS IN SINGAPORE.
This is just dumb,
the pastor is dumb. his EQ is barely there.
That's actually the practice and culture of most christian church in Singapore,
accusing other religions of being satanic and rubbish.
I swear you will never find a catholic priest saying the same thing because we are taught to respect others even though they don't share the same faith as us.
This is just a further assurance that i'm right in saying most christians in Singapore don't think before they speak ,
don't check out the facts before they accuse,
the ones who are blind is them.
The blind calling others blind, holy shit.
Holy father, look what your people is becoming.
THEY NEED ENLIGHTENMENT,lah.
and yes,he did apologise.
But it's like cleaning his butt after shitting only after his mother told him to.
Originally posted by Rooney9:its the bible who said hell to those who do not believe isnt it. also other religions are satanic, where do you think came from?
u don't put things so bluntly in the 21st century, u think people will accept what you say so easily? That's not the right way of evangelism.