Originally posted by reservistsianz:I felt that this type of preaching is detrimental to Singapore's religious harmony. Some of the people here in the forum are really looneys and are generally not taken serious. However Pastor Rony is a religious leader and one whose words are taken seriously and literally. Saying bad words about other religions provoke bad feelings, segregate the people and people can become emotional and more extreme. Maybe the authority should be informed of this
Unlikely that the ISD would arrest a pastor, it would create too much hoo har
warning nia ah?
see, double standards is where they are lenient to christans
February 9, 2010
Written by Our Correspondent
Lighthouse Evangelism founder and Senior Pastor Rony Tan had received a phone call from the Internal Security Department (ISD) about his comments made about Buddhism and Taoism during a church session. It is not known if he had been called up for questioning.
Pastor Tan was seen interviewing a former Buddhist monk and nun and making disparaging remarks about the central tenets of Buddhism such as reincarnation, meditation and nirvana.
The sessions were video-recorded and posted on the official website of Lighthouse Evangelism which were subsequently uploaded to Youtube and other blogs and forums.
It sparked an outcry on Hardwarezone forum when the videos were first posted on 3 February 2010 with many netizens lampooning Pastor Tan for his insensitive remarks which appeared to have denigrated both Buddhism and Taoism.
According to a report on Channel News Asia, ISD told Pastor Tan that in “preaching or proselytising his faith, he must not run down other religions, and must be mindful of the sensitivities of other religions”
The Ministry of Home Affairs gave a brief statement that Pastor Tan’s comments werer highly “inappropriate and unacceptable as they trivialised and insulted the beliefs of Buddhists and Taoists” which can also “give rise to tension and conflict between the Buddhist/Taoist and Christian communities.”
Pastor Tan has since issued a public apology on his website and expressed his deepest apologies and remorse over the matter:
“I realized that my presentation and comments were wrong and offensive. So I sincerely apologize for my insensitivity towards the Buddhists and Taoists, and solemnly promise that it will never happen again,” he wrote.
He gave his solemn promise that it will never happen again and has also affirmed that he will tell his members to respect other beliefs and build a harmonious Singapore.
In May last year, a Senior Pastor from the Church of Our Saviour Derek Hong issued a public apology “for using the pulpit to give backing to the Association of Women for Action and Research’s (AWARE) executive committee in their dispute with the group’s previous leadership”, but the ISD was not involved then.
This incident marked the first time in many months that the ISD has made a “public appearance”. The ISD is a secretive organization in Singapore whose officers are seldom seen or heard in public.
Under the draconian Internal Security Act, anybody deemed a “threat” to Singapore can be detained up to two years without trial. The ISA was used in the early days to detain suspected communists, but is used sparingly now against terrorists.
Despite Pastor Tan’s apology, some netizens remain unsatisfied and wanted the authorities to take action against him while others continue to doubt his sincerity to “repent”.
Hardwarezone forumer Fulaien wrote:
“I dun think its the emails that make him apologise. Its the phone call from ISD”
Laopokcar didn’t seem pleased with the apology either:
“Far from being closed, I think the apology has sparked some discontent about him getting away with just a warning, may not be the same exact issue, but it is definitely far from being closed.”
EDITORS’ NOTE:
The Temasek Review welcomes Pastor Rony Tan’s apology and we urge netizens to forgive him and let the matter rest. We shall respect the wishes of Pastor Tan and remove the video clips from our website.
Related articles:
1. VIDEO: Pastor Rony Tan’s comments on Buddhism
2. Hardwarezone forumers up in arms over Pastor Rony Tan’s remarks
3. Pastor Rony Tan issues public apology on his remarks about Buddhism
Hallelujah, amen, ISD contacted Rony on it. Good!
He is silly to incite religious disharmohy and hatred.
People, if you happen to hear or read anything from christians , pastors inciting religious disharmony and hatred feel free to post clips and proof to ISD/.
Originally posted by dragg:buddhism is not a religion.
agree, it used to be known as 佛家,�家,儒家。it's a "house" teaching.
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can all elderly careful wat u all wanna share here? wat for all talk into detail all religious / belief theory? shouldnt one be happy for ur neighbour so long ur neighbour find a faith tat give them peace n happiness? wat for go detail n talk to prove one another? we children dont like elders to quarrel or argue who is right or wrong? watever one think is ok, jus bless one another can you all elders pls stay quiet n peace? pls dont take our peace country for grants n talks too much unnecessary can? pls stop analyse or point each other or prove one another can? wat type of society u wanna for us children? wat for discussing so detail? jus acceptance to one another lor.
Now the pastor has been warn.
But how about the audience? Will they being brainwash by his talk?
Not enough, if kids doing the same thing in chat room can kena court case why shouldn't this retard kena the same thing.
Originally posted by Daveteo:Just to share with you all about this lighthouse evangelism church by pastor rony.
I went there before to talk to 1 of the female pastor about a problem that I have.
She prayed for me and ask me to leave down my name and number and she will get her secretary(which was beside her at that time) to contact me in future to find out the progress of my problem.
5 days later she indeed call me and her voice was very soft on the phone. Talk like a ant like that. I was outside and I couldn't hear her very clear.
She say she will call me back later but until now few months already also never call me.
What does this say about the church?
I let you judge yourself..
did you offer to pay them to help with your problem ?
you see, these people are just like lawyers...........in robes.............
if there's no money, even Jesus is too busy to see you..............LOL
Originally posted by likeyou:Now the pastor has been warn.
But how about the audience? Will they being brainwash by his talk?
early early kana brainwashed liao..................after all, they've been told since day 1 never to question or doubt the Jesus myth................less they start to find MASSIVE loopholes.............and that most of the stories are taken from earlier religions............
Originally posted by laurence82:warning nia ah?
see, double standards is where they are lenient to christans
maybe most of Christians are PAP voters mah..............they scared later lose their votes..........or worse, pastors become opposition supporters...........
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:Unlikely that the ISD would arrest a pastor, it would create too much hoo har
Then good ma. Then whole world know not to play play with Singapore Laws, and sensitive subject. If not more people like that, then a few generations later the all Singapore Pastor also talk like that, Singapore sure got religious riots. Better to stop it now then suffer later.
I am a Buddhist who lose hope in Buddhism donkey years ago.Pastor Rony is right.Buddhism has become a cult.
Originally posted by Osamituofo:I am a Buddhist who lose hope in Buddhism donkey years ago.Pastor Rony is right.Buddhism has become a cult.
there are many christians who lose hope in christianity too as you can see in this forum.
Originally posted by Osamituofo:I am a Buddhist who lose hope in Buddhism donkey years ago.Pastor Rony is right.Buddhism has become a cult.
don't make the conclusion too early that you and rony are right. till death will you know the answer. you said you are a buddhist. tell me what you know about buddhism.
may be you are just like that joseph in the video clip who knows nuts about buddhism but claimed to be an ex-buddhist.
Originally posted by Osamituofo:I am a Buddhist who lose hope in Buddhism donkey years ago.Pastor Rony is right.Buddhism has become a cult.
Maybe you can talk us why and what make you say busddism has become a cult?
Originally posted by Osamituofo:I am a Buddhist who lose hope in Buddhism donkey years ago.Pastor Rony is right.Buddhism has become a cult.
hahahah, wow , is it????? Loopholes all over the bible! hallelujah my friend and husband just gave up on CHRISTIANITY!
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
don't make the conclusion too early that you and rony are right. till death will you know the answer. you said you are a buddhist. tell me what you know about buddhism.may be you are just like that joseph in the video clip who knows nuts about buddhism but claimed to be an ex-buddhist.
Anyway, who here felt that ISD called him and tell Pastor Rony, and Pastor Rony post his apologies online and other places. Is it enough? I personally felt that if this is not taken seriously, we are heading to religious riots.
We dont want riots and curfew in spore.
All forieng investors siam and fled liao.
Then spore will be doomed!
lim kopi liao lar .... u all also want to lim kopi ar?
Originally posted by Dark_Zero:Anyway, who here felt that ISD called him and tell Pastor Rony, and Pastor Rony post his apologies online and other places. Is it enough? I personally felt that if this is not taken seriously, we are heading to religious riots.
No worry, monitoring this sort of matter is one of the very few things the ruling party is doing well. Just leave it to the government.
Originally posted by Dark_Zero:Anyway, who here felt that ISD called him and tell Pastor Rony, and Pastor Rony post his apologies online and other places. Is it enough? I personally felt that if this is not taken seriously, we are heading to religious riots.
Most Buddhists are very passive type, not like Islam, Christianity, etc. Won't expect riots.
He do have a daughter by the name Treey may she marry to geylang
Son Pigcer go to Deskar Rd to become ass hole
why others are jailed but not him? how much he bribe the gahmen?