Originally posted by Fantagf:
Holy spirit is gentle. Person still is alert not totally unconscious. Person can choose when to stop praying.
i dun believe in all that crap to begin with lar, so to me basically they are in trance or pretending to be, at least
possession by spirit of any sort, whether gods, demons or ghosts also same
Originally posted by laurence82:i dun believe in all that crap to begin with lar, so to me basically they are in trance or pretending to be, at least
possession by spirit of any sort, whether gods, demons or ghosts also same
It is ok you don't believe coz you have not experience it before.
Whatever, the praying in tongue does not stop people from leaving the faith. It only helps in praying.
Originally posted by laurence82:i dun believe in all that crap to begin with lar, so to me basically they are in trance or pretending to be, at least
possession by spirit of any sort, whether gods, demons or ghosts also same
yes they are. all supernatural.
that sound damn xtian like lar
haha
Pray or no praying in tongue that does not remove the loopholes in Christianity.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
It is ok you don't believe coz you have not experience it before.Whatever, the praying in tongue does not stop people from leaving the faith. It only helps in praying.
the common denoninator of the god religion is supernatural ie divine being.
Originally posted by Rooney9:the common denoninator of the god religion is supernatural ie divine being.
Yes, that is common in most religions
in fact how many religions in this world have god concept ie have a divine being or salvation through them?
Originally posted by Rooney9:in fact how many religions in this world have god concept ie have a divine being or salvation through them?
I don't know, I have not done study on it
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Yes, that is common in most religions
Taoism is not, it is not a religion. Taoism said there is yin and yang and the tao te ching initially by Lao Tzu. later dunno why so many gods and idols were added and then charms and spells as well.
Buddhism is also not a religion. there is a way to end suffering. You have to do it yourself and no divine being or the Buddha can obtain salvation for you.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
I don't know, I have not done study on it
go google or read from wikipedia lar. not asking you to read everything, but in summary.
Bhagavad Gita, Hindusim, Judaism, Christianity, Islam.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Pray or no praying in tongue that does not remove the loopholes in Christianity.
like can god create something he cant lift. if he can, then he is not powerful. if he cant, he is also not powerful either. see the paradox.
Originally posted by Rooney9:Taoism is not, it is not a religion. Taoism said there is yin and yang and the tao te ching initially by Lao Tzu. later dunno why so many gods and idols were added and then charms and spells as well.
Buddhism is also not a religion. there is a way to end suffering. You have to do it yourself and no divine being or the Buddha can obtain salvation for you.
YOu said it about Taoism - I, too, find it confusing, since Lao tzu founded it why so many idols and all that you mentioned. It should be more theory than anything. I spoke to one Taoist shifu he invited me to attend their class.
Yes, I am glad buddhism teaches about end suffering. I am exploring buddhism but I not rushing it.
Originally posted by Rooney9:like can god create something he cant lift. if he can, then he is not powerful. if he cant, he is also not powerful either. see the paradox.
Lots of questions but no answers to it, that is why I find christianity not credible. God contradicts himself, too.
Originally posted by Rooney9:Taoism is not, it is not a religion. Taoism said there is yin and yang and the tao te ching initially by Lao Tzu. later dunno why so many gods and idols were added and then charms and spells as well.
Buddhism is also not a religion. there is a way to end suffering. You have to do it yourself and no divine being or the Buddha can obtain salvation for you.
It's what happens when religions like Taoism & Buddhism are mixed with local folk religions like in a way to intergrate it with the locals.
Originally posted by RoyFang:It's what happens when religions like Taoism & Buddhism are mixed with local folk religions like in a way to intergrate it with the locals.
I remembered when I was in church, i attended a short seminar on understanding other religions, it said that taoism incorporates buddhism - sometimes the blah blah go hell , sometimes go up heaven. They are mixed.
But pure buddhism does not mix with taoism.
Originally posted by RoyFang:It's what happens when religions like Taoism & Buddhism are mixed with local folk religions like in a way to intergrate it with the locals.
yes you are right. to incorporate local beliefs into Buddhism. thats why I find it wierd initially why Tibetan Buddhism got medium one. they incoporated their local beliefs into Buddhism.
Originally posted by Rooney9:yes you are right. to incorporate local beliefs into Buddhism. thats why I find it wierd initially why Tibetan Buddhism got medium one. they incoporated their local beliefs into Buddhism.
Where where to find Tibetan buddhism medium???
Originally posted by Fantagf:
I remembered when I was in church, i attended a short seminar on understanding other religions, it said that taoism incorporates buddhism - sometimes the blah blah go hell , sometimes go up heaven. They are mixed.But pure buddhism does not mix with taoism.
hahaha. they do not study it yet they have the cheek to say this nonsense. what nonsense. but I do not blame them, because they are deluded and ignorant. no enemy is greater than one's own. they are their own worst enemies.
Originally posted by Rooney9:hahaha. they do not study it yet they have the cheek to say this nonsense. what nonsense. but I do not blame them, because they are deluded and ignorant. no enemy is greater than one's own. they are their own worst enemies.
They base on bible to condemn. Yet the bible teaches not to condemn. Condemnation is a sin. In fact, in Christianity lots of stuff are sins. Tak boleh tahan.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Where where to find Tibetan buddhism medium???
I dunno. guess you have to ask tibetans then.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
They base on bible to condemn. Yet the bible teaches not to condemn. Condemnation is a sin. In fact, in Christianity lots of stuff are sins. Tak boleh tahan.
they do not walk the talk, teach one thing, practises another thing.
Originally posted by Rooney9:I dunno. guess you have to ask tibetans then.
I read and watch Taiwanese programme talked about Tibetan buddhism, it really is mysterious, like magic. I read that the monk (dunno what exactly it is mentioned in te book) choose the auspicious date they want to die, then when time comes, they just sit there and die. So so chim!
Also, it is mentioned that most lamas able to read minds and cure
Originally posted by Rooney9:they do not walk the talk, teach one thing, practises another thing.
Yes, this is mentioned in the bible - bible said this is hypocritical. Jesus had more than once told the pharisees off on this . Pharisees are religious leaders at that time, they had great influence.
Originally posted by Fantagf:
I read and watch Taiwanese programme talked about Tibetan buddhism, it really is mysterious, like magic. I read that the monk (dunno what exactly it is mentioned in te book) choose the auspicious date they want to die, then when time comes, they just sit there and die. So so chim!Also, it is mentioned that most lamas able to read minds and cure
sorry better not talk here, as this is the wrong forum to post here.