I had been to CHC a number of times while they were still at Paya Lebar, and over a period of a few years, each time it was always about prosperity gospel. Which I personally feel is not healthy as a church. I don't know whether it was by pure coincidence but there was never a time i went that it wasn't about properity gospel.
And all this I used to hear about how they want to build the biggest, grandest church in SouthEast Asia, and how lavish and exhorbitant I find some of the spending is, it really give me a tower of babbel feel to it all.
Originally posted by laurence82:start wad? no relevance why u start saying about numbers of membership? you fooling around or wad?
What I've said was clear enough.
ah ha
birds of same feather
no wonder ague also like that
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:What I've said was clear enough.
yes i hear u
just want to tell u sniping doesnt work on me
what u said was a big fat lie and i will take u to task for it even if u wanna let go as u said
Originally posted by laurence82:enough is when u start it and quickly 'let go' to avoid arrows? nice try
i dont really appreciate such off the cuff remarks and the quick avoidance that follows
sniping doesnt work on me
Not avoiding anything, just see no need to discuss it further.
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Not avoiding anything, just see no need to discuss it further.
i understand thats the usual tactic
u said something, and then u add no need to discuss further in hope ppl will not take u to task for it
i fully fully understand
serious
Originally posted by laurence82:yes i hear u
just want to tell u sniping doesnt work on me
what u said was a big fat lie and i will take u to task for it even if u wanna let go as u said
Well, if you think it's not true or want to insist it's not true it's up to you. I'm done with it. Doesn't matter to everyone here, be it you, myself or others how far you go to prove it.
Originally posted by laurence82:i understand thats the usual tactic
u said something, and then u add no need to discuss further in hope ppl will not take u to task for it
i fully fully understand
serious
Not tactic or what, just any disccussion about it is moot.
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Well, if you think it's not true or want to insist it's not true it's up to you. I'm done with it. Doesn't matter to everyone here, be it you, myself or others how far you go to prove it.
I understand this also, see ppl use it all the time
no need to discuss further
doesnt matter to me
etc etc etc
yup
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Not tactic or what, just any disccussion about it is moot.
u and david like to use same tactic
its moot
irrelevant
come on, this kind of tactic ppl use all the time
This is not a court of law Laurence, there's no judgement or jury or anything. There is nothing to prove or disprove. And no matter how far you discuss it, nothing is going to change about the situation and you know it.
Just what is your aim here?
Originally posted by laurence82:u and david like to use same tactic
its moot
irrelevant
come on, this kind of tactic ppl use all the time
Because it really is? The discussion is moot?
Originally posted by laurence82:I understand this also, see ppl use it all the time
no need to discuss further
doesnt matter to me
etc etc etc
yup
Not doesn't matter to me individually, it doesn't matter to the situation as a whole.
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:This is not a court of law Laurence, there's no judgement or jury or anything. There is nothing to prove or disprove. And no matter how far you discuss it, nothing is going to change about the situation and you know it.
Just what is your aim here?
i dont noe, thats what i am about to ask u next, whats ur aim in sniping me and then say, oh no need to discuss further?
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Because it really is? The discussion is moot?
but u started it, why? i am curious as to such bizarre behaviour
Originally posted by laurence82:i dont noe, thats what i am about to ask u next, whats ur aim in sniping me and then say, oh no need to discuss further?
The point was clear enough.
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Not doesn't matter to me individually, it doesn't matter to the situation as a whole.
but yet u continue to reply back, u do care..
so i am interested..why u started doing this sort of thing? realli
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:The point was clear enough.
that u wanna snipe ppl ard and then quickly avoid it? point taken
Originally posted by laurence82:but u started it, why? i am curious as to such bizarre behaviour
What I've said earlier is clear enough. So what is your aim really?
Originally posted by laurence82:but yet u continue to reply back, u do care..
so i am interested..why u started doing this sort of thing? realli
Just clarifying something you said wrongly. Either intentionally or unintentionally.
Originally posted by laurence82:that u wanna snipe ppl ard and then quickly avoid it? point taken
Nope, definitely not it. The least you could do is not twist the words of people.
Besides, that was your point, not mine.
All I said is you or others would defend FireIce. I didn't say it's a good thing, I didn't say it's a bad thing.
You insist strongly that you don't. Fair enough. Leave it at?
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:What I've said earlier is clear enough. So what is your aim really?
as noted in previous post, i am curious (aim) to know why u snipe me (ur aim) and then wanna avoid it (another aim)
so i guess matter's pretty cleared
hmmm
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Just clarifying something you said wrongly. Either intentionally or unintentionally.
yes thanks for clarification that u wanna snipe me
谢谢
Originally posted by SomebodyInSG:Nope, definitely not it. The least you could do is not twist the words of people.
i dont really
u did what u did, no twisting needed
Originally posted by noahnoah:
a must or not a must at chc.It depends on whether u want to give
however "their teaching always remind us of 100 fold returns"
thats why ppl thought i give 100, will reap 10000 in returns
That's not how giving to the church is supposed to work. Each time I went, the talk and examples given was always about getting many times back financially or materially.
It doesn't work like that.