Originally posted by dadeadman1337:I heard there was a pastor in the UK charging 50 pounds per blessing, that is just preying on people's ignorance and guiliblity
for 500 pounds, confirm place in heaven................
5000 pounds and you'll be sleeping next to Jesus...................
Originally posted by As romanista2001:for 500 pounds, confirm place in heaven................
5000 pounds and you'll be sleeping next to Jesus...................
I dont think u will be sleeping wth Jesus. The pastor and the person buying blessings will both be sleeping with iron tongs up thier ass in hot bed of nails.
Originally posted by BadzMaro:I dont think u will be sleeping wth Jesus. The pastor and the person buying blessings will both be sleeping with iron tongs up thier ass in hot bed of nails.
Wow, u have the gift of prophesy
Originally posted by merkava4:You all very funny leh....the church is building something using their own money, also not public funding, not your money....why u care so much?
Moreover, Pastor Kong Hee is off-salary since dunno how long ago..he's not paid a cent. He founded the church from nothing with his own money and today he also not drawing salary...wat's wrong la?The church's money and financial statements also on the internet for all to see...the church executive members made up of several hundreds has voting and questioning rights too...everything is done properly and legally la.
THey just need a building to house their members, 27,000 of them...what's wrong with a 12,000 seater? You expect them to squeeze into your 5-room flat issit?
not making any money out of running a mega church..............? unless it's Pastor DONG KEE....................
or could S'pore has a true blue saint................even the folks at Vatican are reaping big bucks...............
he staying in a slum ? he takes the bus/MRT to church..........? that should be obvious enough..............
Originally posted by As romanista2001:for 500 pounds, confirm place in heaven................
5000 pounds and you'll be sleeping next to Jesus...................
ha ha ha .............................................you are really a joker!
Originally posted by Fantagf:
You really think so?Tell us are you saying that your mind and heart are root of evil?
All mind and heart are the root of evil.
Dont need me to tell you this.
Wasting time and money. City Harvest Church should just close down.
Originally posted by As romanista2001:for 500 pounds, confirm place in heaven................
5000 pounds and you'll be sleeping next to Jesus...................
1 million pound and i will be.....?
Originally posted by laurence82:1 million pound and i will be.....?
Sleeping with Jesus?
Originally posted by Dark_Zero:I not twisting words. I also not finding fault. I just merely stating facts.
Agree.
Underhand. Haha. Playing with people mind. But human are not perfect. And pastor are human, thus not perfect. So this is their imperfect side. Just don't fall prey to it and we will just do fine
Yea but my worries are the growing number of people falling prey to it, and how they could possibly gain the numbers to start telling us what to do.
Just because we feel we don't have the right to tell them what to do does not mean they would have any reservations to repay that courtesy.
After all from their perspective, they're saving us.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Wasting time and money. City Harvest Church should just close down.
wahahahaha! i second that
Originally posted by likeyou:
All mind and heart are the root of evil.Dont need me to tell you this.
So do you mean to tell me or us you are evil because your heart and mind are the root of evil?
Originally posted by Larryteo:Wasting time and money. City Harvest Church should just close down.
Do we have to be so negative? At the end of the day, its not us that is spending the money right? Give them a break la guys..
City harvest has been sending team to Haiti.. what have you been doing? haven't you been reading the papers these few days?
Originally posted by Cannedy!:Do we have to be so negative? At the end of the day, its not us that is spending the money right? Give them a break la guys..
City harvest is has been sending team to Haiti.. what have you been doing? haven't you been reading the papers these few days?
holloywood actor/actress also donated
a huge sum of money/
and bear in mind majority they are not
christians
Originally posted by Cannedy!:Do we have to be so negative? At the end of the day, its not us that is spending the money right? Give them a break la guys..
City harvest has been sending team to Haiti.. what have you been doing? haven't you been reading the papers these few days?
Are you a church member of CHC?
Ya lor, pastor kong hee ought to come here deal with people who do not think well of his church. Come "kill" us. Come!
Originally posted by noahnoah:
holloywood actor/actress also donateda huge sum of money/
and bear in mind majority they are not
christians
Donate who don't know! Donate for fame, donate with a sincere heart????
Originally posted by Cannedy!:Do we have to be so negative? At the end of the day, its not us that is spending the money right? Give them a break la guys..
City harvest has been sending team to Haiti.. what have you been doing? haven't you been reading the papers these few days?
chc should also send a team to look into the needs of his followers' parents because they are supporting themselves since their children have no more money to give to their parents after giving to chc.
To all those who are so 'angry'/'frustrated' with chc building this building, I have one thing to say - calm down, relax, breathe. Nobody is out to personally 'get' you.
Its their building isn't it? Why are you so troubled by it? When you buy your apartment nobody slams you on the internet now do they? Take a deep breath... and before criticising anybody's religion/beliefs look at the climate that we're in at the moment.
Maybe it wouldn't be so wise to get into a theological argument considering what our 'neighbours' are going through. That's the first thing. Secondly, what else is happening today? A community of people are going through a disaster and what are we all doing? On the net fighting over something that honestly, is not really any of our business is it?
Like chc or hate it, its ur choice. But look at what they're doing in Haiti. Twitter, facebook its all over the web. Personally, as a Christian and as a Singaporean I am glad that somebody is doing something to show that our country is generous and giving to other countries in the time of need.
Brings me back to sec school social studies. Inter-dependence etc etc.
Well anyway, all I'm saying is, whether you agree with the 310 million building or not doesn't really matter when its the matter of many people's lives that are being saved by the willingness of these chc volunteers.
Does money matter so much to you that you're ignoring all the good they're doing? I hope not.
people with first post jump into this topic
Originally posted by laurence82:people with first post jump into this topic
...Funny when he compares a church to an apartment and I don't see the link between this news and Haiti earthquake but some kept linking it together...and accuse others of being too money-minded (?)
Originally posted by Fantagf:
So do you mean to tell me or us you are evil because your heart and mind are the root of evil?
If one's heart and mind keeps cursing pple, scold pple, write bad things, call pple names...then that is evil.
Heart and Mind will wonder very far.....
Its an interesting topic, and you guys are boosting the count up so much, it's not really a big shock its the first one people would look at.
Hmmm I guess its just somehting you'd link it too right? Since a church is known for either having a worship service or doing good. So, if you don't agree with the way the church 'conducts' the service / worship (i.e. the infrastructure of the building) then you look at what good they have done instead before basing your judgments?
Seems pretty logical to me.
Originally posted by Hazeleyes:Its an interesting topic, and you guys are boosting the count up so much, it's not really a big shock its the first one people would look at.
Hmmm I guess its just somehting you'd link it too right? Since a church is known for either having a worship service or doing good. So, if you don't agree with the way the church 'conducts' the service / worship (i.e. the infrastructure of the building) then you look at what good they have done instead before basing your judgments?
Seems pretty logical to me.
Well...i know CHC is known for having a great worship service, i haven't exactly heard much about them doing good. Perhaps you might want to elaborate?
Originally posted by likeyou:
If one's heart and mind keeps cursing pple, scold pple, write bad things, call pple names...then that is evil.
Heart and Mind will wonder very far.....
Is bad character the root of evil for the heart and mind to act the way your described?