If every religion claims miracles, then miracles cease to be recognised as such
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:If every religion claims miracles, then miracles cease to be recognised as such
it is true. every religion claims miracles, it is not restricted to any religion. So to speak, faith is the thing that makes miracles work.
But at least other religions do not claim that all things are possible.
simply because most other religions dun teach a creator who is ruler over everything...i said MOST not all...
Originally posted by despondent:simply because most other religions dun teach a creator who is ruler over everything...i said MOST not all...
Really? I thought many did, excluding the religions like Buddhism and Confucianism
no actually few teach abt creator...as in 1 single creator...
Originally posted by despondent:no actually few teach abt creator...as in 1 single creator...
From what I know some polytheistic religions say that their gods worked together to create the universe.
Theres a short article about this on wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_deity
those are not included in my definition...
Originally posted by Endurehardships:No one else beside Jesus Christ can perform healings today.So all the healings you see today are craps.It is all acting only.Healings exploit the misfortunates.
You are just a son of a bitch who can't see what is this and that in this modern world. You are living in your own paridigm. It is stupid, disgusting freaky people like you that disgraces the Judeo-Christian God. You should just fuck off if you want to say Jesus Christ was the only one able to make miracles and heal people. I can affirm with you that all other religions have healed others miraculously. Don't be a stupid bastard, oh wait , you are one, and to add on, you are also a delusional freak.
Originally posted by despondent:those are not included in my definition...
Im just trying to pass along some information.
ok...i apologise if that was ur intention...
Originally posted by dkcx:Why do i ask someone who i believe in as much as i believe in tooth fairies who will come and give me money if i place a fallen tooth under my pillow?
You should tell that to Larry, he belongs to those who are still deeply believing in these fairytales.
Don't be a fucktard dear, mr uni student, I am out of the christian shit :D
Originally posted by despondent:ok...i apologise if that was ur intention...
Its no problem, i think many people don't know about creation in other religions anyway, since most stick to one or two religions
Maybe DKCX was there to heal them, you know, after all since he is a uni student, he is a king and a god of this universe, while all others are kiss-ass freaks. Maybe nobody kissed his arse before so he wants people to do it for him by appearing as mighty and holy. Seriously. =)
Though I am no longer a creationist, neither an evolutionist, I would have to imply that with what DKCX says, he is implying that even those creationists who have higher qualifications than him are stupid and believe in fairytales. After all, he is a uni student. To him university is higher than going to even higher education, which is out of logic. Wow. Nice moral education. May I know where DKCX is educated at? Which UNI? Is it some crap UNI again? I suggest he bash every single religon and put into the UNI magazine so that he will get bashed up. But no one will waste their time on him anyways. =) Besides, it is not a proven fact that evolution happened, neither is it a proven fact that God really created humans. It may not be the God of the bible either.
After all, DKCX told me not to have sex when I was a creationist when somehow I mentioned God wants living things to procreate,HOWEVER it seems illogical since DKCX is the one who should refrain from it if he thinks nothing can create something. So humans need not worry about extinction of the race, because humans can just pop up from some soup. But the soup's story was partially ruined when our dear Louis Pasteur did an experiment. The story of creation in the bible has also been ruined by the 30000 year old tribes and 10 000 year old religons.
Sorry but this vengeance towards this lil freak is neccesary :D
Originally posted by Larryteo:Maybe DKCX was there to heal them, you know, after all since he is a uni student, he is a king and a god of this universe, while all others are kiss-ass freaks. Maybe nobody kissed his arse before so he wants people to do it for him by appearing as mighty and holy. Seriously. =)
Though I am no longer a creationist, neither an evolutionist, I would have to imply that with what DKCX says, he is implying that even those creationists who have higher qualifications than him are stupid and believe in fairytales. After all, he is a uni student. To him university is higher than going to even higher education, which is out of logic. Wow. Nice moral education. May I know where DKCX is educated at? Which UNI? Is it some crap UNI again? I suggest he bash every single religon and put into the UNI magazine so that he will get bashed up. But no one will waste their time on him anyways. =) Besides, it is not a proven fact that evolution happened, neither is it a proven fact that God really created humans. It may not be the God of the bible either.
After all, DKCX told me not to have sex when I was a creationist, but that seems illogical since DKCX is the one who should refrain from it if he thinks nothing can create something. So humans need not worry about extinction of the race, because humans can just pop up from some soup. But the soup's story was partially ruined when our dear Louis Pasteur did an experiment. The story of creation in the bible has also been ruined by the 30000 year old tribes and 10 000 year old religons.
Sorry but this vengeance towards this lil freak is neccesary :D
Same, I don't believe strongly in evolution, but neither do i acknowledge a god.
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:Same, I don't believe strongly in evolution, but neither do i acknowledge a god.
You MUST believe in evolution if not someone here will call you a fool who disagrees with science.
Originally posted by Larryteo:You MUST believe in evolution if not someone here will call you a fool who disagrees with science.
I believe in it, but i don't place emphasis on it in an argument for or against religion
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:I believe in it, but i don't place emphasis on it in an argument for or against religion
But someone here said that evolution will expose religon. How will it expose religion?????? Evolution does not doubt the existence of a creator, but the creator doubts his own exsitence. Contradictory topic.
Originally posted by Larryteo:But someone here said that evolution will expose religon. How will it expose religion?????? Evolution does not doubt the existence of a creator, but the creator doubts his own exsitence. Contradictory topic.
It would "expose" religion only if the religion in question states a given argument directly in contradiction to the evolution theory. I think when the bible says that god created adam, separate from the animals, it kinda conflicts with the theory that man had evolved from primates
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:It would "expose" religion only if the religion in question states a given argument directly in contradiction to the evolution theory. I think when the bible says that god created adam, separate from the animals, it kinda conflicts with the theory that man had evolved from primates
It could also be possible that the beings were created slowly, being experimented until it is right but I think it is a relatively stupid idea if creationism merges with evolution. They don't match. I'm lost.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:It could also be possible that the beings were created slowly, being experimented until it is right but I think it is a relatively stupid idea if creationism merges with evolution. They don't match. I'm lost.
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What I think is, how come before the church never mentioned any such thing before evolutional theories? To me it seems like they're constantly changing their story to fit in with new scientific discoveries.
Originally posted by dadeadman1337:What I think is, how come before the church never mentioned any such thing before evolutional theories? To me it seems like they're constantly changing their story to fit in with new scientific discoveries.
Only the european churches try to fit in. The American ones just oppose like mad dogs.
u open for me to share from creationist pt of view? its not tat we are changing our story...our story as told in bible has not changed...its juz tat when science discover sth, we point out the similarities btw wad science discovered and wad we understood from bible...christianity alredi does not subscribe to evolution to begin wif so why would the church tok abt evolution? we do explore it abit here and there in classes but tats nvr been the main focus.
one more thing to note is tat Darwin lived later than the bible...in other words, christianity alredi existed b4 darwin did...
the main reason why u cun understand so many things abt christianity is cos u are still, until today, viewing christianity like how we would view other religions...u shld remember i did tell u b4 tat u cannot do the same for christianity as other religions...moreover, u are using science to evaluate christianity while christians are using christianity to evaluate science...notice, the directions both sides take are different...in such a case, do/can we still expect similar conclusions???
Originally posted by despondent:u open for me to share from creationist pt of view? its not tat we are changing our story...our story as told in bible has not changed...its juz tat when science discover sth, we point out the similarities btw wad science discovered and wad we understood from bible...christianity alredi does not subscribe to evolution to begin wif so why would the church tok abt evolution? we do explore it abit here and there in classes but tats nvr been the main focus.
one more thing to note is tat Darwin lived later than the bible...in other words, christianity alredi existed b4 darwin did...
the main reason why u cun understand so many things abt christianity is cos u are still, until today, viewing christianity like how we would view other religions...u shld remember i did tell u b4 tat u cannot do the same for christianity as other religions...moreover, u are using science to evaluate christianity while christians are using christianity to evaluate science...notice, the directions both sides take are different...in such a case, do/can we still expect similar conclusions???
Conclusions may or may not be simillar, but from a rational point of view, can you expect someone to believe creation especially since there is hardly any evidence to support it? Its not so much that people don't want to believe in God, but that there is insufficient reason to do so. How would you expect one to view Christianity then?
Originally posted by despondent:u open for me to share from creationist pt of view? its not tat we are changing our story...our story as told in bible has not changed...its juz tat when science discover sth, we point out the similarities btw wad science discovered and wad we understood from bible...christianity alredi does not subscribe to evolution to begin wif so why would the church tok abt evolution? we do explore it abit here and there in classes but tats nvr been the main focus.
one more thing to note is tat Darwin lived later than the bible...in other words, christianity alredi existed b4 darwin did...
the main reason why u cun understand so many things abt christianity is cos u are still, until today, viewing christianity like how we would view other religions...u shld remember i did tell u b4 tat u cannot do the same for christianity as other religions...moreover, u are using science to evaluate christianity while christians are using christianity to evaluate science...notice, the directions both sides take are different...in such a case, do/can we still expect similar conclusions???
You seem so surprised that people like DKCX treat the bible like this. Heh, luckily I'm no longer in this crap..