2010 Bible Codes Predictions
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
What you said still does not make evolution true :D
than what makes you think god is true.
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Originally posted by dkcx:
Youtube videos can be made by anyone so there is no trust and validity from them.
1 can interview people who say god is true to make a video saying its true just as others can make another saying god is not true. All it takes is just finding the people you want to talk who will take your stand.
Books can also be written by anyone, and can also any how write, as long as it is written in a formal and ''appears to be true'', it will be published
-Thus, just like the videos, just because it is being published by major publishers does not add to the credibillity of the book.
-I can also write a ghost story and say it did happen, it will still be published.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
than what makes you think god is true.
And what makes you think evolution is true.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
Books can also be written by anyone, and can also any how write, as long as it is written in a formal and ''appears to be true'', it will be published
-Thus, just like the videos, just because it is being published by major publishers does not add to the credibillity of the book.
-I can also write a ghost story and say it did happen, it will still be published.
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With reference to dkcx,
You must also remember that the theory of evolution is just a theory. It hasn't been made a law, just a hypothesis that Charles Darwin made about animals and life around it. What Charles Darwin did on the Galapagos islands was just to study species of birds that lived in different ecosystems. Intelligent design has made it possible that certain traits fit their environment harmoniously and not over centuries that after a lot of trial and error that things happen that way. If evolution existed, we would be seeing so many types of animals and plants in just one species alone.
Posted by dcvx
If thats your answer, please do not use your computer as you are using technology. Please pray to god everyday and he might grant you something that is more advance than a computer which is made by science.
What has technology got to do with the existence of god? Religious text have encourged progress in scientific thought. That is a fact. In the 1500s to 1900s there were many die hard believes of god and big religious feverousity among the people then. If they knew that Science was going to believe their very faith, why would they do something against it?
Science is never against religion. It is people who use to speak the devil's lingo who use Science against religion.
Posted by dcvx
Please explain in detail how did religion lead to scientific advancement and if that is so, they is scientific advancement into space and many fields proving things that goes against what religion believes in.
The only part of Science that challenges religion is the theory of evolution and the Big bang theory about how life on earth started. our modern world like chemistry, physics and most of biology and including geology and in fact all subjects do not in fact put a front against religion. Religion helps to promote Scientific thought. That is a fact.Posted by dcvxPlease find SCIENTIFIC proof that religion affects science. As a religion trying to protect itself, it will obviously say that others depend on it but only when others admit/agree that it was due to that could it be valid.Why does religion has to protect itself? Why do many people in the world choose to believe in religion? If so, why don't people just burn down places of worship and choose to build more biopolis and laboratories to further the advance of Science? Why do people choose to keep them? After all, land in our world is so scarce where poverty and war plague the world. -
Originally posted by Rooney9:
wat abt bibleSo I am saying is that evolutionist's books are no different from whom they despise
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
Books can also be written by anyone, and can also any how write, as long as it is written in a formal and ''appears to be true'', it will be published
-Thus, just like the videos, just because it is being published by major publishers does not add to the credibillity of the book.
-I can also write a ghost story and say it did happen, it will still be published.
So you are giving an answer to prove that the books and stuff you shown can be false as well.
So please go to www.sciencedirect.com, www. and search.
This is a scientific database and all the scientific findings there are respected by all scientists unlike all the forum, youtube stuff you read which can be false and lies written by anyone. Anything published is open to the entire scientific community to read and verify.
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Originally posted by dkcx:
So why are you studying in school? Please go to church and study there since school is teaching you something you believe is false. Why waste your time?
Next time you can find work by preaching about god, god is going to give you money and food because you believe in him.
You have also no proof that god created anything except alot fo false beliefs in ur brains.
-Just because I disagree with the teaching does not mean I have to leave school
-Sorry but I do not take biology, I only take Physics and Chemistry, giving another reason not to leave school
-I only mentioned that evolution is false, not everything in the education system. Why are you so concerned?
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Originally posted by dkcx:
So you are giving an answer to prove that the books and stuff you shown can be false as well.
So please go to www.sciencedirect.com, www. and search.
This is a scientific database and all the scientific findings there are respected by all scientists unlike all the forum, youtube stuff you read which can be false and lies written by anyone. Anything published is open to the entire scientific community to read and verify.
Just because the people there are respected does not mean they are honest in their research.
Just because they are famous, it does not mean that everything they have to say is credible. Your logic is equal to saying that a bag from a brand you have never heard of before will never have chance to be of better quality than that of a bag from Nike.
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Originally posted by Gareth3ying:
With reference to dkcx,
You must also remember that the theory of evolution is just a theory. It hasn't been made a law, just a hypothesis that Charles Darwin made about animals and life around it. What Charles Darwin did on the Galapagos islands was just to study species of birds that lived in different ecosystems. Intelligent design has made it possible that certain traits fit their environment harmoniously and not over centuries that after a lot of trial and error that things happen that way. If evolution existed, we would be seeing so many types of animals and plants in just one species alone.
Posted by dcvx
If thats your answer, please do not use your computer as you are using technology. Please pray to god everyday and he might grant you something that is more advance than a computer which is made by science.
What has technology got to do with the existence of god? Religious text have encourged progress in scientific thought. That is a fact. In the 1500s to 1900s there were many die hard believes of god and big religious feverousity among the people then. If they knew that Science was going to believe their very faith, why would they do something against it?
Science is never against religion. It is people who use to speak the devil's lingo who use Science against religion.
Posted by dcvx
Please explain in detail how did religion lead to scientific advancement and if that is so, they is scientific advancement into space and many fields proving things that goes against what religion believes in.
The only part of Science that challenges religion is the theory of evolution and the Big bang theory about how life on earth started. our modern world like chemistry, physics and most of biology and including geology and in fact all subjects do not in fact put a front against religion. Religion helps to promote Scientific thought. That is a fact.Posted by dcvxPlease find SCIENTIFIC proof that religion affects science. As a religion trying to protect itself, it will obviously say that others depend on it but only when others admit/agree that it was due to that could it be valid.Why does religion has to protect itself? Why do many people in the world choose to believe in religion? If so, why don't people just burn down places of worship and choose to build more biopolis and laboratories to further the advance of Science? Why do people choose to keep them? After all, land in our world is so scarce where poverty and war plague the world.Its a theory yes that is being research on. What is religion? A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
If you didn't know how to read, species that did not survive would have died out. Furthermore, there are still millions of different species of birds, insects etc etc and not just 1. Please explain that as well. If your world, there is only 1 bird, 1 insect, 1 fish etc, i really wonder where you came from.
Who said chemistry, physics, biology etc are not against religion? How did people start astronomy? It came from advancement in physics to allow people to view the world, how did people started the big bang theory and how elements etc came about? That comes from chemistry by analysing the contents of space matter. Without biology, how do people start evolution theory and show that virus etc are mutating and evolving to be resistant to drugs etc. Its a fact that every branch of science is helping to deprove religion in their respective ways just that they don't all link to it directly and its clear you fail to see how the sciences are all link together and each science is not a seperate entitiy.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
Just because the people there are respected does not mean they are honest in their research.
Just because they are famous, it does not mean that everything they have to say is credible. Your logic is equal to saying that a bag from a brand you have never heard of before will never have chance to be of better quality than that of a bag from Nike.
Just the same, just because any of your priest etc are well known, that doesn't mean what they preach is credible. It doesn't mean they are honest and never lied about what they preach. Your statement does not support us but neither is it supporting your arguement and in fact is just as much saying religion can be as false as science.
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Originally posted by dkcx:
Its a theory yes that is being research on. What is religion? A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
If you didn't know how to read, species that did not survive would have died out. Furthermore, there are still millions of different species of birds, insects etc etc and not just 1. Please explain that as well. If your world, there is only 1 bird, 1 insect, 1 fish etc, i really wonder where you came from.
Who said chemistry, physics, biology etc are not against religion? How did people start astronomy? It came from advancement in physics to allow people to view the world, how did people started the big bang theory and how elements etc came about? That comes from chemistry by analysing the contents of space matter. Without biology, how do people start evolution theory and show that virus etc are mutating and evolving to be resistant to drugs etc. Its a fact that every branch of science is helping to deprove religion in their respective ways just that they don't all link to it directly and its clear you fail to see how the sciences are all link together and each science is not a seperate entitiy.
Just because it is against religion still does not make religion false.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
-Just because I disagree with the teaching does not mean I have to leave school
-Sorry but I do not take biology, I only take Physics and Chemistry, giving another reason not to leave school
-I only mentioned that evolution is false, not everything in the education system. Why are you so concerned?
Science is not something by itself. It may look like physics chemistry biology etc are totally different thing to u because at ur level, they split the content so that they become very very distinct from each other but as you progress, you will realise all branches of science are linked together and they continue to support and help each other to achieve greater heights.
Without chemistry, alot of biological theories cannot be proven, studied and tested. Without physics, alot of chemistry experiments cannot be done nor explained since physics knowledge is required to build chemical equipment. Without maths, alot of physics theories won't be solved since alot of physics theories were already solved by mathematicians before physicist works out the equation and apply it to their use.
Thats just a small sample of how the sciences are link and such links are endless as you go further and further into higher level science.
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evolution is generally accepted as a scientific fact by most scientists. if you ask me if it can be more discoveries in future, I would say yes. if you ask me if there can be errors gleaned from evolution, I would say yes.
pardon me for my pun, if you ask me to choose the modern era of evolution over a 2000 years old concept of god, I would choose evolution anytime. its my choice of choosing the lesser of 2 evils.
reason is simple. 2000 years old ago is primitive and ancient than the modern era science. if science can be wrong, what about 2000 years ago concept, which was neither tested or substantiated.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
Just because it is against religion still does not make religion false.
I'm using scientific proof and explained theories to explain why the beliefs are false yet you are only using stuff written by fellow christians etc without any scientific or provable content to backup yourself.
Its like still saying the world is flat because it looks flat to you when everyone already know its round.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
evolution is generally accepted as a scientific fact by most scientists. if you ask me if it can be more discoveries in future, I would say yes. if you ask me if there can be errors gleaned from evolution, I would say yes.
pardon me for my pun, if you ask me to choose the modern era of evolution over a 2000 years old concept of god, I would choose evolution anytime. its my choice of choosing the lesser of 2 evils.
reason is simple. 2000 years old ago is primitive and ancient than the modern era science. if science can be wrong, what about 2000 years ago concept, which was neither tested or substantiated.
In other words, you probably believe that a pile of mud will become an animal a few million years later.
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Originally posted by dkcx:
I'm using scientific proof and explained theories to explain why the beliefs are false yet you are only using stuff written by fellow christians etc without any scientific or provable content to backup yourself.
Its like still saying the world is flat because it looks flat to you when everyone already know its round.
Just because it is written by christians does not make it any less credible, and there are proofs to backup.
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Originally posted by Larryteo:
Just because it is written by christians does not make it any less credible, and there are proofs to backup.
Please provide these proofs you talk about?
As i say, we are arguing about the eternality of the universe and evolution vs creationism. Please provide scientific proof that what you talk about does exist and has been proven by science rather than it just being a belief.
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since you said evolution is a theory, fair enough. however what makes you think that god is true? still whatever you quoted from the bible or from yourself, still it god is a concept created by men, not a reality.
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You must also remember that political systems that tried to exterminate religion and calling it a scumb bag of our modern civilisation also didnt last very long either
In the reign of the Tsar's time in Russia, many Russians were strong believes of othrodox Christianity before the takeover by the Bolsheviks. When communism had its firm hold, religion was banned, religious books destroyed. In 70 years after the fall of the monarchy, the entire soviet union disintegrated and people who once had their faith removed could now openly worship.
The taleban when they removed or blew up the Buddha at banyan were cursed, resulting in their loss of power from 2001 to the US-led Afghanistan forces. Is it not so that god has a play in it?
Even countries that still practice "communism" and the northern country that is a die hard communist all know that it is better to keep religion alive and not to desecrate religious artefacts for they know they shall be cursed.
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Posted by dcvx
Its a theory yes that is being research on. What is religion? A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
Do we need further research into the theory of evolution? How many fossils have been dug out? You might as well catalog all the plants and animals in this world and then make a conclusion.
A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
Is religion wrong in everything? The bible has for once quoted scientific arguments in some chapters. for example, the existence of lightning, the tides the days.
Major religious texts do have quotations on Scientific concepts. True, maybe their concepts like Aristotle is wrong, but you also have to consider the amount of scientific knowledge present in those days and the people who copied the scriptures of the bibles hand by hand. Mistakes were made by man. not by god.
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If you didn't know how to read, species that did not survive would have died out. Furthermore, there are still millions of different species of birds, insects etc etc and not just 1. Please explain that as well. If your world, there is only 1 bird, 1 insect, 1 fish etc, i really wonder where you came from.
How do you know they died out? Where is the fact? Fossils? Even the big asteroid crash 65 million years ago is just a theory. How do you know they didnt survive? Maybe some manage to hide? Like the 300 million year old fish? Not adpated into its environment but still found in the world?Who said chemistry, physics, biology etc are not against religion? How did people start astronomy? It came from advancement in physics to allow people to view the world, how did people started the big bang theory and how elements etc came about? That comes from chemistry by analysing the contents of space matter. Without biology, how do people start evolution theory and show that virus etc are mutating and evolving to be resistant to drugs etc. Its a fact that every branch of science is helping to deprove religion in their respective ways just that they don't all link to it directly and its clear you fail to see how the sciences are all link together and each science is not a seperate entitiy.Does anywhere in the bible deny the existence of chemical reactions? elements? None.What i'm saying here is that science and religion are intertwined. Not religion against Science or Science against religion. They're hand in hand -
Originally posted by Gareth3ying:
You must also remember that political systems that tried to exterminate religion and calling it a scumb bag of our modern civilisation also didnt last very long either
In the reign of the Tsar's time in Russia, many Russians were strong believes of othrodox Christianity before the takeover by the Bolsheviks. When communism had its firm hold, religion was banned, religious books destroyed. In 70 years after the fall of the monarchy, the entire soviet union disintegrated and people who once had their faith removed could now openly worship.
The taleban when they removed or blew up the Buddha at banyan were cursed, resulting in their loss of power from 2001 to the US-led Afghanistan forces. Is it not so that god has a play in it?
Even countries that still practice "communism" and the northern country that is a die hard communist all know that it is better to keep religion alive and not to desecrate religious artefacts for they know they shall be cursed.
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Posted by dcvx
Its a theory yes that is being research on. What is religion? A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
Do we need further research into the theory of evolution? How many fossils have been dug out? You might as well catalog all the plants and animals in this world and then make a conclusion.
A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
Is religion wrong in everything? The bible has for once quoted scientific arguments in some chapters. for example, the existence of lightning, the tides the days.
Major religious texts do have quotations on Scientific concepts. True, maybe their concepts like Aristotle is wrong, but you also have to consider the amount of scientific knowledge present in those days and the people who copied the scriptures of the bibles hand by hand. Mistakes were made by man. not by god.
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If you didn't know how to read, species that did not survive would have died out. Furthermore, there are still millions of different species of birds, insects etc etc and not just 1. Please explain that as well. If your world, there is only 1 bird, 1 insect, 1 fish etc, i really wonder where you came from.
How do you know they died out? Where is the fact? Fossils? Even the big asteroid crash 65 million years ago is just a theory. How do you know they didnt survive? Maybe some manage to hide? Like the 300 million year old fish? Not adpated into its environment but still found in the world?Who said chemistry, physics, biology etc are not against religion? How did people start astronomy? It came from advancement in physics to allow people to view the world, how did people started the big bang theory and how elements etc came about? That comes from chemistry by analysing the contents of space matter. Without biology, how do people start evolution theory and show that virus etc are mutating and evolving to be resistant to drugs etc. Its a fact that every branch of science is helping to deprove religion in their respective ways just that they don't all link to it directly and its clear you fail to see how the sciences are all link together and each science is not a seperate entitiy.Does anywhere in the bible deny the existence of chemical reactions? elements? None.What i'm saying here is that science and religion are intertwined. Not religion against Science or Science against religion. They're hand in handScience VS religion did not exist until Darwin came about. LOL. That stupid old hag with a nice imagination, he should have been writing fairy tales for Disney instead :D
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
evolution is generally accepted as a scientific fact by most scientists. if you ask me if it can be more discoveries in future, I would say yes. if you ask me if there can be errors gleaned from evolution, I would say yes.
pardon me for my pun, if you ask me to choose the modern era of evolution over a 2000 years old concept of god, I would choose evolution anytime. its my choice of choosing the lesser of 2 evils.
reason is simple. 2000 years old ago is primitive and ancient than the modern era science. if science can be wrong, what about 2000 years ago concept, which was neither tested or substantiated.
Wow. You speak with poison with two tongues.
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Originally posted by Gareth3ying:
You must also remember that political systems that tried to exterminate religion and calling it a scumb bag of our modern civilisation also didnt last very long either
In the reign of the Tsar's time in Russia, many Russians were strong believes of othrodox Christianity before the takeover by the Bolsheviks. When communism had its firm hold, religion was banned, religious books destroyed. In 70 years after the fall of the monarchy, the entire soviet union disintegrated and people who once had their faith removed could now openly worship.
The taleban when they removed or blew up the Buddha at banyan were cursed, resulting in their loss of power from 2001 to the US-led Afghanistan forces. Is it not so that god has a play in it?
Even countries that still practice "communism" and the northern country that is a die hard communist all know that it is better to keep religion alive and not to desecrate religious artefacts for they know they shall be cursed.
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Posted by dcvx
Its a theory yes that is being research on. What is religion? A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
Do we need further research into the theory of evolution? How many fossils have been dug out? You might as well catalog all the plants and animals in this world and then make a conclusion.
A belief that is passed on that has no scientific proof etc that can be verified but is slowly being proven wrong with advancement in science.
Is religion wrong in everything? The bible has for once quoted scientific arguments in some chapters. for example, the existence of lightning, the tides the days.
Major religious texts do have quotations on Scientific concepts. True, maybe their concepts like Aristotle is wrong, but you also have to consider the amount of scientific knowledge present in those days and the people who copied the scriptures of the bibles hand by hand. Mistakes were made by man. not by god.
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If you didn't know how to read, species that did not survive would have died out. Furthermore, there are still millions of different species of birds, insects etc etc and not just 1. Please explain that as well. If your world, there is only 1 bird, 1 insect, 1 fish etc, i really wonder where you came from.
How do you know they died out? Where is the fact? Fossils? Even the big asteroid crash 65 million years ago is just a theory. How do you know they didnt survive? Maybe some manage to hide? Like the 300 million year old fish? Not adpated into its environment but still found in the world?Who said chemistry, physics, biology etc are not against religion? How did people start astronomy? It came from advancement in physics to allow people to view the world, how did people started the big bang theory and how elements etc came about? That comes from chemistry by analysing the contents of space matter. Without biology, how do people start evolution theory and show that virus etc are mutating and evolving to be resistant to drugs etc. Its a fact that every branch of science is helping to deprove religion in their respective ways just that they don't all link to it directly and its clear you fail to see how the sciences are all link together and each science is not a seperate entitiy.Does anywhere in the bible deny the existence of chemical reactions? elements? None.What i'm saying here is that science and religion are intertwined. Not religion against Science or Science against religion. They're hand in handCould you click on the wheel at the top right corner at each post so it would create an automatic quote?
It's very difficult to understand which post is yours and which one is quoted by dcvx
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Could you click on the wheel at the top right corner at each post so it would create an automatic quote?
It's very difficult to understand which post is yours and which one is quoted by dcvx
He's new here.
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someone linked the bombing of the buddha statues in afghanistan to that of the US invasion of afghan in 2001 as god playing a role omg
. I am really and truly confounded by this type of explanation.can someone pls enlighten them why the US invaded afghan in 2001. this just goes to show how ignorant of world affairs are you. a typical frog in the well knowledge.