With reference to Rooney9, the way how our universe is created, the mathematics, the way how our world works seems so incredible that it doesnt seem to have occured by chance.
With regard to our universe being in such perfect harmony, the mathematics chances just doesnt seem there. take for an example evolution. During maring or reproduction there are 24,000 ways for a typical cell to mutate but however why does during evolution must nature choose to have species that favour one charcteristic over another?
Take for example bacteria. In some bacteria, there's this tail sticking out called a flagellum, a tail that seems to have occurred by chance. But however Scientists have not been able to find any links for evolution at all. Evolution cannot necessarily explain everything about our universe and why things are in such perfect harmony to one another.
This mathematical probability of things happening in the right way is such a small figure that sometimes you cant help but wonder, is there something like intelligent design fiddling with our world?
that kind of explanation given, as compared to scientific explanations and discoveries, are far far inferior. to say its inferior is grossly an understatement.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Viruses are made purposely to kill people, well, hinting from the fact that God sent plaques to Egypt to kill the the evil. About animals, they are for the amusement of humans, and also to provide humans with food and clothing. And of course some animals which you see as of no use to humans are made to sustain the eco-system.
So explain why there are new virus coming about and how do old virus mutate? Thats my question. Are you sure only the evil are killed? If you ever get sick, please don't see a doctor as base on your logic, you are evil and god wants you dead so you should not get yourself cured as thats using science.
If animals are for amusement, do explain why animals kill humans and there are so many lifeforms that are too small that humans don't notice or see them. Why are there even more types of lifeforms in the oceans than on land when god didn't make humans into sea creatures that can explore the oceans and see what he created.
I believe you have studied food chain before and there are ALOT of them with the entire chain serving no purpose to human living so they have no purpose in sustaining the eco-system at all.
Originally posted by dkcx:So explain why there are new virus coming about and how do old virus mutate? Thats my question. Are you sure only the evil are killed? If you ever get sick, please don't see a doctor as base on your logic, you are evil and god wants you dead so you should not get yourself cured as thats using science.
If animals are for amusement, do explain why animals kill humans and there are so many lifeforms that are too small that humans don't notice or see them. Why are there even more types of lifeforms in the oceans than on land when god didn't make humans into sea creatures that can explore the oceans and see what he created.
I believe you have studied food chain before and there are ALOT of them with the entire chain serving no purpose to human living so they have no purpose in sustaining the eco-system at all.
I did not say only the evil are being killed, I only said the egyptians at that time were killed.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Are you going to thrash them all? D: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread163678/pg1
Since you are so lame to believe a forum post, let me return u 1 form the exact same forum. Someone in that thread say christianity is false so lets believe this thread instead since its just as valid as the 1 you posted.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread304993/pg1
Originally posted by Larryteo:Viruses are made purposely to kill people, well, hinting from the fact that God sent plaques to Egypt to kill the the evil. About animals, they are for the amusement of humans, and also to provide humans with food and clothing. And of course some animals which you see as of no use to humans are made to sustain the eco-system.
I'm assuming you have not updated yourself with bird flu, then ?
Originally posted by Larryteo:I did not say only the evil are being killed, I only said the egyptians at that time were killed.
Let me see, how many people died to H1N1? How many people died to SARS? They were all evil weren't they? Even some kids who were so young and don't know anything are so evil they deserve to die yet there are so many terrorist and other evil people who god feels deserve to live and are so pure and good...
Originally posted by Larryteo:I did not say only the evil are being killed, I only said the egyptians at that time were killed.
epic inferior explanation given. epic lack of logic, common sense and coherence, not to mention intelligence. Pls do not take me for a fool with that kind of explanations please.
They die then die lor. And that doesn't prove that evolution is a fact either.
http://www.tanbooks.com/doct/science_today.htm
Originally posted by Rooney9:epic inferior explanation given. epic ack of logic, common sense and coherence, not to mention intelligence. Pls do not take me for a fool with that kind of explanations please.
Still doesn't prove evolution as a fact :D
Originally posted by Gareth3ying:With reference to Rooney9, the way how our universe is created, the mathematics, the way how our world works seems so incredible that it doesnt seem to have occured by chance.
With regard to our universe being in such perfect harmony, the mathematics chances just doesnt seem there. take for an example evolution. During maring or reproduction there are 24,000 ways for a typical cell to mutate but however why does during evolution must nature choose to have species that favour one charcteristic over another?
Take for example bacteria. In some bacteria, there's this tail sticking out called a flagellum, a tail that seems to have occurred by chance. But however Scientists have not been able to find any links for evolution at all. Evolution cannot necessarily explain everything about our universe and why things are in such perfect harmony to one another.
This mathematical probability of things happening in the right way is such a small figure that sometimes you cant help but wonder, is there something like intelligent design fiddling with our world?
If you have studied well, its not that nature has selected 1 type over the other but because the type that have certain characteristics do not allow them to survive and thus they are extinct leaving behind those with characteristics that aids their survival to live.
If you want talk about useless things, please explain why god given us an appendix? Its useless to humans since people can live after its cut away. Did god created it just for humans to suffer and in the past die dued to his flawed design and he knew that technology will 1 day be good enough to cut if away and remove his flawed design?
1st Issue) Christianity is afraid of science
Christians were never scared of science. Religion was neither afraid too. Many early discoveries in our modern world and the basis of our modern world actually rely on the hard work made by priests and monks in the monasteries that sought to better understand our world. The famous example is genetics, where the laws of inheritance were first layed out by Gregor mendel, an austrian monk. These people were the pioneers of our modern science and if they felt that science was going to challenge their religion, why would they contradict their beliefs?
*they said christians are scared that science will reveal that religion is false
It was religion that provided imagination to the scientific method we use today. Many aspects of religious texts have encouraged man to know more about our world, how it works and to encourage scientific thought. Without religion we would be living in a backward world today without our modern advances. It has been in recent years that people have denounced religion calling it a practice for the weak but religion has encouraged scientific thought. Major religious texts prove it.
Originally posted by Larryteo:They die then die lor. And that doesn't prove that evolution is a fact either.
http://www.tanbooks.com/doct/science_today.htm
Did you see what that site sells? It only sells christian books and obviously thats flawed and not scientific.
All scientific books will be published by proper publishers and have proper citations to proper scientific evidences.
Originally posted by dkcx:Did you see what that site sells? It only sells christian books and obviously thats flawed and not scientific.
All scientific books will be published by proper publishers and have proper citations to proper scientific evidences.
Being published by major publishers still does not make evolution true and creationism false. Your logic is equal to that as saying that the person who owns an Econ minimart is dishonest with business while the one who owns a supermarket is honest and does not go to aims to earn more cash.
Originally posted by Gareth3ying:1st Issue) Christianity is afraid of science
Christians were never scared of science. Religion was neither afraid too. Many early discoveries in our modern world and the basis of our modern world actually rely on the hard work made by priests and monks in the monasteries that sought to better understand our world. The famous example is genetics, where the laws of inheritance were first layed out by Gregor mendel, an austrian monk. These people were the pioneers of our modern science and if they felt that science was going to challenge their religion, why would they contradict their beliefs?
*they said christians are scared that science will reveal that religion is false
It was religion that provided imagination to the scientific method we use today. Many aspects of religious texts have encouraged man to know more about our world, how it works and to encourage scientific thought. Without religion we would be living in a backward world today without our modern advances. It has been in recent years that people have denounced religion calling it a practice for the weak but religion has encouraged scientific thought. Major religious texts prove it.
If thats your answer, please do not use your computer as you are using technology. Please pray to god everyday and he might grant you something that is more advance than a computer which is made by science.
Please explain in detail how did religion lead to scientific advancement and if that is so, they is scientific advancement into space and many fields proving things that goes against what religion believes in.
Please find SCIENTIFIC proof that religion affects science. As a religion trying to protect itself, it will obviously say that others depend on it but only when others admit/agree that it was due to that could it be valid.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Being published by major publishers still does not make evolution true and creationism false. Your logic is equal to that as saying that the person who owns an Econ minimart is dishonest with business while the one who owns a supermarket is honest and does not go to aims to earn more cash.
That doesn't make it true either. You have still yet to explain the different variations of flu virus such as H1N1, H5N1 etc etc. If they didn't evolve, how did these new variations suddenly appear when they were not present earlier?
Do u go to the supermarket to get everything or would you go to a farm to buy milk, eggs etc, a silkworm farm to get silk etc to make into clothes? You get everything you want these days from supermarkets which have everything and you buy from them because you trust them to give you quality goods.
Just like why people would trust major publishers and bookstores that sells all kinds of books and not be bias.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Still doesn't prove evolution as a fact :D
then from now on, pls dun bother to read anything about science and its discoveries. pls regard science as superstitious. then all the years spent on studying science is a waste of time for you.
Please watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504&feature=player_embedded
Originally posted by Rooney9:then from now on, pls dun bother to read anything about science and its discoveries. pls disregard science as superstitious. then all the years spent on studying science is a waste of time for you.
He should just leave school since hes going to continue studying things that slowly erodes everything that religion preaches if he continues.
Originally posted by Rooney9:then from now on, pls dun bother to read anything about science and its discoveries. pls regard science as superstitious. then all the years spent on studying science is a waste of time for you.
What you said still does not make evolution true :D
Originally posted by dkcx:He should just leave school since hes going to continue studying things that slowly erodes everything that religion preaches if he continues.
Still does not make evolution true even if it is preached in every school.
some of the explanations given by them is really confounding to the point that, I dunno is there a word better than inferior? their arguments are, bu gong zi puo (Translated as no need to attack, it disintegrate by itself).
Originally posted by Larryteo:Please watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504&feature=player_embedded
Youtube videos can be made by anyone so there is no trust and validity from them.
1 can interview people who say god is true to make a video saying its true just as others can make another saying god is not true. All it takes is just finding the people you want to talk who will take your stand.
Originally posted by dkcx:Youtube videos can be made by anyone so there is no trust and validity from them.
1 can interview people who say god is true to make a video saying its true just as others can make another saying god is not true. All it takes is just finding the people you want to talk who will take your stand.
It still does not make evolution true.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Still does not make evolution true even if it is preached in every school.
So why are you studying in school? Please go to church and study there since school is teaching you something you believe is false. Why waste your time?
Next time you can find work by preaching about god, god is going to give you money and food because you believe in him.
You have also no proof that god created anything except alot fo false beliefs in ur brains.