Originally posted by Rooney9:the reply to that article is this. since you say god is omnipotent and cannot fail to create anything he wishes and he cant fail, then there lies this paradox. is there anything he cant create? the answer is no. but is there something he can create which he cant lift it up? so the answer to that is yes or no, just answer to this question. the writer is avoiding the question it seems. if this is not a paradox, I wonder what is. whats witholding you back from answering to this direct question.
To you, anything regarding God is a parodox of course, since you live in self-denial.
AND LOL READ THIS FROM A CHRISTIAN SITE AIMED AT JOKING ABOUT ATHEISTS[Please note that some of the content is offensive to atheists.]
Atheists
Psalm 52
5 God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he
shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of thy dwelling place, and root thee
out of the land of the living. Selah.
6 The righteous also shall see, and fear, and
shall laugh at him:
7 Lo, this is the man that made not God his
strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself
in his wickedness.
(If you don't trust in God, he'll kill you and while you're dying the "righteous" will laugh at you.)
What are Atheists? What do They Believe?
1.) Myth: Atheists have no belief in the Christian God or any of the false god of the other religions. It has nothing to do with hate.
Reality: Everyone including atheists know the Christian god, God is real. We know he is real since we call him God with a capital "G" -- that proves it right there. The more than 2,500 accounted for "gods" are all made up to attempt to draw Christians away from the one True god, God. All these non-Christians hate Christians, as well as God.
2.) Myth: Atheists are very socially conscious and strive for humans to live in peace.
Reality: Atheists are all anarchist who hate everything and everyone. All atheists are out to forcibly remove God from the world and take Him out of the History of His Earth.
3.) Myth: On average atheists have higher IQs.
Reality: They are demons, meaning they are slaves to Satan. Since of this they don't think so thus have an IQ of 0.
3.) Myth: Atheists can live high moral lives. They can raise wonderful children, help the needy, provide food and shelter for the poor. They love to help humans since they don't believe in a god, so they instead turn to humanity for love and compassion.
Reality: Atheists live highly sinful lives and fill our state prisons. It's no wonder that 100% of our prisons our full of atheists. Any atheist who claims to be good is trying to act good to draw people to their religion. They will try to enter organizations to help the needy but rightfully will be turned down since everyone knows atheists are hateful and filthy bigots. When atheists start organizations for the needy us True Christians come along and dismember, and destroy their idolaterous buildings. These atheists enforce the Religion of Evolutionism onto these needy people before they give them food, demanding that they confess their alliegance to Satan. What kind of sick moran leaves a needy person in a cold like that with no solid help?
4.) Myth: Atheists are people to.
Reality: THEY ARE EVIL DEMONS! WRATHFUL AND HATEFUL NIGGER LOVERS!
5.) Myth: Atheists believe in Logic and Reason.
Reality: Firstly, I don't like how atheists use those words. They capitalize Logic and Reason since that's the lies they worship. We use God and Truth since they are things we posses and we prove this by using capital letters. Atheists who do the same thing are mocking Christianity.
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Do Atheists Have Equal Rights? Do They Deserve Them?
The State Constitutions Don't Lie:
(Look these up yourself if you think I editted them!)
Arkansas
"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any court."
article 19, sect. 1 of the 1874 constitutionMaryland
"That as it is the duty of every man to worship God in such manner as he thinks most acceptable to Him, all persons are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty... nor shall any person, otherwise competent, be deemed incompetent as a witness, or juror, on account of his religious belief; provided, he believes in the existence of God, and that under His dispensation such person will be held morally accountable for his acts, and be rewarded or punished therefore either in this world or in the world to come." Bill of Rights: Article 36Massachusetts
"As the happiness of a people, and the good order and preservation of civil government, essentially depend upon piety, religion and morality; and as these cannot be generally diffused through a community, but by the institution of the public worship of God, and of public instructions in piety, religion and morality: herefore, to promote their happiness and to secure the good order
and preservation of their government, the people of this commonwealth have a right to invest their legislature with power to authorize and require, and the legislature shall, from time to time, authorize and require, the several towns, parishes, precincts, and other bodies politic, or religious societies, to make suitable provision, at their own expense, for the institution of the public
worship of God, and for the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion and morality, in all cases where such provision shall not be made voluntarily." Declaration of Rights: Article IIINorth Carolina
"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God...." Constitution Article 6 Section 8Pennsylvania
"No person who acknowledges the being of God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth".
Declaration of Rights Article 1 Section 4Tennessee
"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."
Bill of Rights: Article 9 Section 4Texas
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."
Article 1 - Bill of Rights: Section 4]
SEE!! Atheists aren't even Real Citizens of America!! Take THAT YOU FILTHY BIGOTED GOD HATERS! You are ALL immoral communists and all dangerous threats to society with your divorce rates being 100% and your anti-Americanism obvious!
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Is it Okay to At Least Make Friends With Atheists, Or Love Them?
2 Corinthians 6
Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers
14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[1] ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."[2]
17"Therefore come out from them
and be separate, says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you."[3]If you EVER make any friendly contact with an atheist, you will go STRAIGHT to Hell. Jesus will NEVER receive you, you fools. GOD HATES ATHEISTS WITH ALL HIS LOVE!
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Atheists are the Vast Majority in the Public Education System and in the Judicial System. What do We do about that?
Firstly, never take your children to public school since you don't want them to be brainwashed by religious beliefs. Home school them and teach them only about the Bible and God's Love for all. Tell them the truth about atheism and they're religion: Evolutionism. Satan planted them in schools and things to make atheists look smart and appealing when the truth is they are all communists who wallow in their own vomit and lick the rectums of dogs. Since that's all atheists are, filthy stinky homosexuals who hate everyone. They should all die, as God orders us to kill them all:
Exodus
31
14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is
holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for
whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his
people.
(Note: Sabbath is the Sunday of each week you must attend Christian Church. Any dictionary will give you this definition). So if you miss a Sunday of Church you are to be killed since you are a filthy atheist then.)
Exodus 35
2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh
day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever
doeth work therein shall be put to death.
Deuteronomy 7
10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to
destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to
his face.
(If you hate God, he will KILL YOU!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!)
2
Peter 3
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by
the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment
and perdition of ungodly men.
Exodus 22
20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the
LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
Deuteronomy 17
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy
gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought
wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and
worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I
have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it,
and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that
such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that
woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or
that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses,
shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one
witness he shall not be put to death.
7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him
to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt
put the evil away from among you.
Psalm 52
5 God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he shall
take thee away, and pluck thee out of thy dwelling place, and root thee out of
the land of the living. Selah.
6 The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall
laugh at him:
7 Lo, this is the man that made not God his
strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself
in his wickedness.
Deuteronomy 17
12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will
not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy
God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the
evil from Israel.
13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do
no more presumptuously.
Psalm 59
8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt
have all the heathen in derision.
Psalm 137
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy
little ones against the stones.
So the answer is simple. Kill all atheists immediately.
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Is There a Rise in the Amounts of Atheists?
Yes. The reason for this is because of all the new laws outlawing the slaying of the atheists by the Liberal Lawmakers in Washington. The Judicial system has been America's big enemy in the battle on establishment of the atheist religion of hating God. Back in the day we would hang them, set them on fire, poison them, enslave them, or just FORCE them to convert by threatening to kill their young. We do all of this in Love. We are Christians, and Love is our main goal.
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Why Don't Atheists Just Get it?
Guess what the bridge is? Is it atheism or Christianity? Think hard.
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Why Do Atheists Try to Take God Out of Everything and Destroy Christmas?
Well the reason is since they are so hateful. All atheists hate Christmas. Godless countries like Japan with the population of atheists being 90% don't even CELEBRATE Christmas. Luckily the population of atheists in America is 0.000000000000000000001% so the odds of us finding one is still slim. The Truth is, atheists hate happiness and want to steal the love of Jesus away from children. This is what the atheist is, a cold and evil grinch who wallows in her own vomit. Atheists in America try saying there is a seperation of church and state in American, but the fools don't realize that God says in the Bible we are to colonize all nations to be Christian and run theocracies. America is a theocracy and the proof of this since the word God is on our money and pledge. They will never take these away from us since God is an American.
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For Those Who Say America Isn't a Christian Nation
Are you worried about the attacks against the Pledge of Allegiance?
I'm a little nervous about it yes, but I know God will get revenge for all the Fags in the government for giving those atheists chances to change Christian Law. The old pledge of alliegance was written by Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a "Baptist" minister. He wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a "Christian" Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897). Because of this they DIDN'T include the name of God!!! Well duh! That's what you get for letting commies for doing things for our country! The original pledge of 1892 went like this:
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of
America
and to the Republic for which it stands,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Where is God?!!? This country was founded on CHRISTIAN values and they let a filthy communist write the thing without involving the most important American of all, God! Not only is America Under God, but God himself is a citizen of the United States. We know this since we are Under Him. Jesus to was also an American.
Jesus WASN'T Italian or French or British or Thai or a Metrosexual, NO He was American. THAT'S WHY AMERICA IS UNDER GOD!!!
Originally posted by dkcx:I guess you study too little science to know how science esp chemistry can be used to fake alot of 'artefacts'.
Original is just said but what evidence of it is the original? Its alot of words of people so just like they can say its true, i can say its fake.
How could u verify it has not been altered by the later people who pass it on?
You just need every single generation to change even a word in it and after a few thousand years, you got a totally new product.
Go study history of human beings, how long have the 1st human been living and why some1 call jesus only appear 2000+ yrs ago? Hes taking a vacation in the past few tens of thousand of years and suddenly decided time for me to show off so he appears?
If there really is such a 'god' why are there so many beliefs, religion and culture all over the world? Today he happy hes jesus, yesterday he was thor, last week he was zues, last month he was jade emperor?
Don't you always talk about evidence? But there is no evidence that the original hebrew bible was faked. After all, only Judaism, Christianity, and Islam supports the physics of 'cause and effect'. Almost every other God I know of says that the Universe had always been and will always be. After all, I am too tired of speaking to someone as narrow-minded as you. Atheists like you always claim that God was always the concept of this and that. But aren't atheists also the same? Atheists always say 'chance' are the concept of this and that. So what atheists say are pretty ironic. If there really is such a 'god' , the reason why there are so many beliefs are obviously because the works of Satan to lure people away from the real God. But you will never understand what I am trying to say anyway, because you are narrow-minded, and then you say christians are narrow-minded. Another thing is because you hold on to a closed mindset, thus you give many weird reasons to this and that. To think atheists say they are logical,but are actually more of illogical.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Don't you always talk about evidence? But there is no evidence that the original hebrew bible was faked. After all, only Judaism, Christianity, and Islam supports the physics of 'cause and effect'. Almost every other God I know of says that the Universe had always been and will always be. After all, I am too tired of speaking to someone as narrow-minded as you. Atheists like you always claim that God was always the concept of this and that. But aren't atheists also the same? Atheists always say 'chance' are the concept of this and that. So what atheists say are pretty ironic. If there really is such a 'god' , the reason why there are so many beliefs are obviously because the works of Satan to lure people away from the real God. But you will never understand what I am trying to say anyway, because you are narrow-minded, and then you say christians are narrow-minded. Another thing is because you hold on to a closed mindset, thus you give many weird reasons to this and that. To think atheists say they are logical,but are actually more of illogical.
In science, things have to be proven true. Something that has not been proven to be true is not to be taken as true until proven. Its only that alot of ppl choose to avoid the truth and believe what they want to be true to be the absolute truth until proven wrong before they find a new excuse.
U just haven't study hard and long enough in school to understand how things in this world come about and choose to beleive in all these beliefs that others instill into you. Still to young to know all the scientific proof of evolution, big bang etc etc.
Close your mind to science and its unlikely your education journey will come far. The universe has an age and a lifespan. All astronomers have observed and seen stars grow and die. To think the universe and even our earth is eternal is just like a frog in a well thinking the whole world is as big as the well hole. I guess astronomy and all complex sciences are too complex for someone who has been brainwashed into believing the non existent.
Too many people chooses to ignore scientific proof of evolution and stuff just because they worry that all their fake beliefs will be exposed and they will feel lost. Don't bother posting crap written by christians cos its all stuff they create to make themselves feel at ease and their imaginary god exist while others are fools, they are just hiding the fact that scientific proof exist that contridicts everything they believe in and thus chooses to be hermits hiding from the truth.
Its so obvious the poster is worried cos too much facts are proving that gods don't exist and the very people who even make your life what it is today, may not have believe in religion. I really wonder whos the 1 with 0 IQ.
Religion talks about humans being created by gods, please explain the SCIENTIFIC proof and findings of early humans who share similiarities with apes and how evolution has taken place. If god really created humans, why have humans only existed for a few thousand years when our earth is already 4.5 billion years old? Why were dinosaurs created and destroyed?
Please use all ur 'beliefs' to answer these questions that science has already answered yet contridicts everything religion teaches and thus do not dare to answer.
Actually, it's kinda stupid since troll-atheists like you claim not to believe in God but still come here to talk . I think I should warn all christians to ignore the posts of people from other religions and atheists which have simply nothing to do with the thread in case other christians answer your foolishness and become fools themselves, the disease of atheism and stupidity must be stopped, we need a VACCINE!
Originally posted by dkcx:U just haven't study hard and long enough in school to understand how things in this world come about and choose to beleive in all these beliefs that others instill into you. Still to young to know all the scientific proof of evolution, big bang etc etc.
Close your mind to science and its unlikely your education journey will come far. The universe has an age and a lifespan. All astronomers have observed and seen stars grow and die. To think the universe and even our earth is eternal is just like a frog in a well thinking the whole world is as big as the well hole. I guess astronomy and all complex sciences are too complex for someone who has been brainwashed into believing the non existent.
Too many people chooses to ignore scientific proof of evolution and stuff just because they worry that all their fake beliefs will be exposed and they will feel lost. Don't bother posting crap written by christians cos its all stuff they create to make themselves feel at ease and their imaginary god exist while others are fools, they are just hiding the fact that scientific proof exist that contridicts everything they believe in and thus chooses to be hermits hiding from the truth.
Oh did you just say PROOF of evolution? Sorry but there is no proof about evolution. And do you know that the models in the musuems of the so called ''ancestors'' of modern humans are imaginary? Sorry but you are the one with 0 IQ, C.S Lewis was a strong atheist who later became a theist later in his life. So he suddenly became stupid? What makes you think you are so smart? BIGOT.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Oh did you just say PROOF of evolution? Sorry but there is no proof about evolution. And do you know that the models in the musuems of the so called ''ancestors'' of modern humans are imaginary? Sorry but you are the one with 0 IQ, C.S Lewis was a strong atheist who later became a theist later in his life. So he suddenly became stupid? What makes you think you are so smart? BIGOT.
I'm a uni student thats clear to most on the forum while we all know u are a ignorant sec sch kid. Clear enough on the IQ level.
Evolution has been proven, if you choose to ignore it and lie to yourself, you are just the biggest fool there is. Something that has been found and can be dated is false then i wonder what about this so called god you have that cannot be seen, cannot be heard, cannot be felt etc etc but just appears in beliefs.
Don't give me story writers, give me scientist especially astronomers who are the 1s who are discovering the life of the universe etc who still believes that the universe is eternal? Please find evolution scientist who still believes it was 'god' who created mankind? How many of the people who actually are researching and making discoveries that goes against religious beliefs are still religious and chooses to work everyday to contridict their beliefs?
Originally posted by Larryteo:Actually, it's kinda stupid since troll-atheists like you claim not to believe in God but still come here to talk . I think I should warn all christians to ignore the posts of people from other religions and atheists which have simply nothing to do with the thread in case other christians answer your foolishness and become fools themselves, the disease of atheism and stupidity must be stopped, we need a VACCINE!
We're here to see how some people has been so lost in their beliefs that they fail to see the world that science has explained and chooses to remain in the closet, unable to accept the facts.
I was right, your religion is all about God, Jesus, SATAN, bible, heaven and hell. salvation is thru god and no one else. all other religions are false, only your religion is true. thats reality for you.
but I beg to differ, as perception is reality to that person. so we believe in science, so we live in a science reality. to each his/her own. your reality is based on a 2009 years old primitive religion from the middle east, whereas I based my belief system on science. so you could say science is the modern era religion which is different from yours, which was one based on faith and bible written book by men from that era.
Ahem, so evolution is a proven theory eh? Just because you are a uni student does not make you any smarter. You may be taught about more shit and educated more about shit and crap, which means you can expertise on crap. In other words, if you educated in evolution, of course you will be an expertise on that. So other uni students who are christians are ignorant too? Just because I am a christian, I am ignorant? Please don't ego around here.
Science estimates are inaccurate, and has been proven to be in the recent findings. A few years back, a few planes were found to be buried under the thick ice of the North Pole, these planes are WW2 planes. They were buried under hundreds of feets of ice. And coincidentally, those few feets of ice meet the estimates of the age of ice, which is 4000years old. Isn't it stupid? So those planes are 4000 years old then?
no wonder you feel so threatened when science discover so many facts about the world we live in and the universe and separate facts from myths.
I can understand that when man first went to moon and realised there was no chang er residing there.
The scoffers will immediately dismiss the source, but some who would
like to discuss this would maybe like to dispute the information
presented. If
the source is absolute bunk then the brilliant minds here should be
able to dismiss these 'theories' outright no?
I would like to do it this way if you don't mind, Pick a number and
then discuss only that number in your reply. Please title each of your
responses
with the number so readers can follow.
I will post mine first.........as a reply to another thread with BH. It
was brought up that evolution is only theory but supported by Science
and that
no Creation can be supported as such....so lets see.
Please lets keep it civil, (ME INCLUDED)
The body and soul of Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution was his idea
that evolution was made possible through natural selection. This
concept is
based on the suggestion that those members of a species that are a
little stronger, a little larger, or run a little faster will live
longer to
procreate offspring with these superior adaptations. Darwin's theory
suggests that millions of generations later the changes will result in
new
species. These adaptations are called links or intermediates.
Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong
Help! I can't fly. My head is too big, and my wings are too small.
The idea of natural selection sounds great when considering deer. The
deer that can sense danger the quickest and run the fastest are able to
escape
the predator on a more consistent basis. However, other examples on the evolutionary
tree have many laughable flaws. One of the best is the thought
that a bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not
answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more
adaptable in his
environment. The wing was much too small for the bird to fly. Why would
a bird evolve a wing that was useless? This is backwards from the
evolutionary
natural selection concept that birds adapt and change in order to
survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is
placed at a
disadvantage in its environment. Why would the bird continue for
millions of generations improving a wing that was useless? The theory
of evolution is
based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species. A
bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage and the opposite
from
natural selection. According to natural selection the members of the
bird species with the smallest useless wing would be the most adaptable
and most
likely to survive in the largest numbers. According to the theory of
natural selection birds could never evolve to fly. Evolution is simply
nonsense.
This is so funny. We are then led to believe that some birds got tired
of carrying around a worthless half-size wing so they grew fingers on
the end
to help climb trees. The wings became arms and a new species was
developed. Evolutionists actually believe this nonsense.
Scientific Fact No. 2 - Species Without a Link Proves Evolution is Wrong
The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual
species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason,
logic and
scientific proof. Evolutionists line up pictures of similar looking
species and claim they evolved one to another. Humans are a great
example. There
are hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes. Petrified skulls
and bones exist from these creatures. Evolutionists line up the most
promising
choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man.
They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the
picture.
This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many
extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes and
elephants.
These pictures are placed in all evolutionists' text books to teach
kids this nonsense. The picture is simply a grouping of individual
species that
does not prove evolution.
Scientific Fact No. 3 - Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong
Scientists a century ago believed the smallest single living cell was a
simple life form. The theory developed that perhaps lightning struck a
pond of
water causing several molecules to combine in a random way which by
chance resulted in a living cell. The cell then divided and evolved
into higher
life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of
being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a
living cell. In
fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein
molecule as found in all animals.
Scientific Fact No. 4 - Human Egg and Sperm Proves Evolution is Wrong
The evolutionist ignores the problem surrounding the human female egg
and the male sperm in the evolutionary theory. The female egg contains
the
X-chromosome and the male sperm contains either an X-chromosome for the
reproduction of a male or a Y-chromosome for the reproduction of a
female. The
female eggs all develop within the ovaries while she is a baby (fetus)
within her mother's womb. Evolutionists claim environmental factors
cause
small changes in the offspring in the evolutionary chain. However, the
environmental experience of the female cannot change the chromosomes
within her
eggs and cannot have any effect upon her offspring. Her body cannot go
into the eggs contained within her ovaries at her birth to make an
intelligent
change. Females cannot be a part of the evolutionary theory for these
reasons.
Scientific Fact No. 5 - DNA Error Checking Proves Evolution is Wrong
The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error
checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory
is wrong.
The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and
reversed.
Scientific Fact No. 6 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is Wrong
The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow
from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an
organism
of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically
backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never
been
proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of
thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific
proof.
Evolution is simply an empty theory.
Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chromosome Count Proves Evolution is Wrong
There is no scientific evidence that a species can change the number of
chromosomes within the DNA. The chromosome count within each species is
fixed.
This is the reason a male from one species cannot mate successfully
with a female of another species. Man could not evolve from a monkey.
Each species
is locked into its chromosome count that cannot change. If an animal
developed an extra chromosome or lost a chromosome because of some
deformity, it
could not successfully mate. The defect could not be passed along to
the next generation. Evolving a new species is scientifically
impossible.
Evolutionists prove that getting a college education does not impart
wisdom.
Scientific Fact No. 8 - Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong
Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin
of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They
stick
their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter
exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is
wrong. The
"Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy
have to come from somewhere.
Scientific Fact No. 9 - Lack of Life on Mars Proves Evolution is Wrong
Two NASA two land rovers named Spirit and Opportunity explored Mars
during 2004. The topography shows obvious signs of past liquid rivers
flowing in
numerous places. The rovers have proven that water was once abundant on
the surface of Mars, but they have not been able to find any signs of
life or
any signs of past life on the planet. Mars has a proven history of
flowing water on the surface and an atmosphere suitable to support life
forms. The
planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark"
of life according to the evolutionary theory, yet there is no life on
Mars.
The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees.
The ground has no fossils and no organisms. The place is absolutely
sterile.
Scientific Fact No. 10 - Radio Silence from Space Proves Evolution is Wrong
Mars is not the only place that shows no signs of life. The entire universe lacks any sign of life. There are no radio signals that can be related to
intelligent life forms. None of the billions of galaxies has been found
to emit any intelligent radio signals. Scientists have been pointing
every
type of radio telescope possible into space for several decades in
hopes of finding an intelligent signal. No signs of life beyond Earth
have been
found. We are alone.
Top Ten Scientific Facts Proving Evolution is False and Impossible
Now as a side note, I would like to present this article for
discussion also, lets call it # 12 shall we? This one I need to look
into as I do not
quite follow this as I should even though I took Introductory Geology.
I am really having trouble with any scientific explanation for this
one.
I know I posted more than I should but most will not follow the link,
maybe this way they will actually READ it before responding.
Absolute Scientific Proof the Evolutionary Theory is Dead
A story about two friends from day one.
Once upon a
time there was a Polonium 218 element of the family of radioactive
isotopes. Nuclear chemists classify Polonium 218 as radioactive
because the nuclei of the atom continually emit alpha, beta and gamma
radiation. This radiation loss causes the atom to disintegrate or decay
into a
smaller atom. Eventually the material will become lead, which we
commonly use for fishing weights and lead-acid batteries in our cars.
Polonium 218 would be classified in elementary school as being
"hyperactive." It can't sit still very long. In only three minutes,
half of the
atoms decay into a lighter element, and in only one day it is all
changed.
Polonium 218 can be created by the decay of a parent atom such as
Uranium 238 or some other element below Uranium 238 in the chain. It
can also be
created as the parent without having come from the decay of a heavier
atom. This is very important, so remember this fact.
Once upon a time there was granite rock. Granite is a very unique rock
but at the same time is very common and plentiful. It can easily be
found
in mountain areas such as the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. Granite is
easily identified by its hard crystalline structure and light color.
The
crystals are large enough to be easily seen with the eye. It has an
interesting structure with a mixture of light-colored quartz and
feldspar
crystals, and darker crystals of mica and hornblende. Granite is solid
and hard without cracks or seams, and it is very strong.
Granite has another very unique property in that it cannot be created by scientists. It is considered to be an
"original" material in the Earth.
When melted and allowed to harden, it does not return to the original
granite crystalline structure. The new smaller crystalline material is
called
rhyolite. Granite cannot be made by cooling the initial molten
materials. This is very important, so remember this fact.
Granite never contains fossils such as are found in sedimentary rocks.
All of these properties have led many scientists to refer to granite as
a
creation rock, since it could not have solidified from molten material
according to the evolutionary theory.
Evolution cannot explain the presence of granite in its present
structure. And where is this granite? Everywhere. Granite is the
bedrock shell
which encloses the entire Earth. Its exact thickness is unknown, but
scientists have speculated that it forms a layer about 4.35 miles (7
km) thick,
and in some areas possibly 20 miles (32 km) thick. It occurs on every
continent.
These are the two friends from day one. We know they were friends
because they lived together. The Polonium 218 lived only a very short
time (3
minutes), but he left his mark on his friend, granite, in that short
time. Polonium emitted alpha particles which left a very distinct mark
in the
granite. These marks are called Polonium halos. These halos are tiny
colored concentric circles which must be viewed with a microscope. The
concentric
circles are actually concentric spherical marks which appear as circles
after the rock is cut open. "How many halos are there?" you may ask.
One
trillion times 10 billion are present on every continent around the
world. They are everywhere.
The Polonium 218 was the parent radioactive isotope because other
distinct halos which are created by other isotopes are not present. The
Polonium
halos are not accompanied by Uranium 238 halos.
One
minute there was nothing. The next minute there were parent Polonium
218 radioactive atoms locked in the center of solid granite. The
granite
rock could not have formed from cooling molten rock. Granite will not
form that way. In fact, scientists cannot make granite by any method.
They can
make diamonds but not granite. Granite is solid. The Polonium could not penetrate
existing granite because it is not porous or cracked. This was day
one.
These friends are absolute scientific proof that
evolution is dead. First, the granite could not have been produced by
evolutionary theories, the
Earth cooling, etc. Second, the Polonium locks the entire time period
into an instantaneous event proven by nuclear chemistry. The time is
not
"millions and millions and millions" of years. The granite was produced
as a solid with the Polonium parent elements inside at that instant.
Within
the first three minutes, half of the Polonium had decayed into a lower
element. The Earth, granite and Polonium were created by God together
in an
instant.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Ahem, so evolution is a proven theory eh? Just because you are a uni student does not make you any smarter. You may be taught about more shit and educated more about shit and crap, which means you can expertise on crap. In other words, if you educated in evolution, of course you will be an expertise on that. So other uni students who are christians are ignorant too? Just because I am a christian, I am ignorant? Please don't ego around here.
Science estimates are inaccurate, and has been proven to be in the recent findings. A few years back, a few planes were found to be buried under the thick ice of the North Pole, these planes are WW2 planes. They were buried under hundreds of feets of ice. And coincidentally, those few feets of ice meet the estimates of the age of ice, which is 4000years old. Isn't it stupid? So those planes are 4000 years old then?
did you think before you post this message?
we know that airplanes were only airborned in the last century, by the wright brothers. how could there be planes flying before then?
really cannot make it explanation.
Originally posted by Rooney9:no wonder you feel so threatened when science discover so many facts about the world we live in and the universe and separate facts from myths.
I can understand that when man first went to moon and realised there was no chang er residing there.
I say you feel more threatened when people discuss about God. If not, why do you keep coming here to talk crap?
Originally posted by Rooney9:did you think before you post this message?
we know that airplanes were only airborned in the last century, by the wright brothers. how could there be planes flying before then?
really cannot make it explanation.
Do you even understand what I am writing? Oh yeah you are too stupid to understand. I said that modern science estimates that the hundreds of feet of ice which buried the plane were 4000 YEARD OLD, MAKING THE ESTIMATION INACCURATE.
Scientific Fact No. 3 - Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong
The scientific study of complex biological structures has made enormous
strides in revealing intelligent design in nature. One example is the
motor
and propeller propulsion system called a bacterial flagellum found in
many bacteria including the common E. coli. The propulsion system of
the
bacteria has 40 moving parts made from protein molecules including a
motor, rotor, stator, drive shaft, bushings, universal joint and
flexible
propeller. The motor is powered by ions and can rotate at up to 100,000
rpm. It can reverse direction in only 1/4 of a revolution and has an
automatic
feedback control mechanism. The size is 1/100,000 of an inch (1/4,000
mm) in width, much to small to see with the human eye. One cannot deny
the
obvious conclusion that this system has an Intelligent Designer.
I had always heard that the smallest living thing has 23 parts, and
it could not exist without all 23 and therefore could not have evolved.
It made
sense and I am sorry I do not remember where I heard this but the text
directly above is darn near the same thing. How can evolution explain
this?
How can these smallest of parts that need to be there in number evolve?
It doesnt make sense. Just as the deeper you go into Space, when you
travel to
the smallest parts of creation, it gets MORE complicated, not less.
It would seem that some scientists at least believe that evolution can not explain this complexity in the world.
CONTENTS: Scientists Speak about the Cell
- Overconfidence in Evolution the Problem - Get rid of that fairy tale,
and we will begin to deal correctly from effect to cause
- Too Much Complexity in Just One Cell - It is bigger than New York City!
- Cells Only Reproduce after Their Kind - They obey the law of Genesis 1
- Evolutionary Theories Are Ridiculous - They do not explain the facts
- Each Cell Is Full of Complicated Parts - We still do not understand its full complexity
- All its Parts Had to Begin Operating at the Same Time - Gradual changeover could not succeed
- Evolutionary Theory Offers No Solutions - We must look elsewhere for answers
SCIENTISTS SPEAK ABOUT THE CELL
Scientific Fact No. 8 - Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong
Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin
of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They
stick
their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter
exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is
wrong. The
"Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy
have to come from somewhere.
Well this one sure does put a halt to evolution in the grand scheme
of things. I mean adaptation can explain a bunch but you can not adapt
matter
from nothing.
Its a real paradox, but to be fair, it can legitimately be asked, then who created God?
It is one that my mind is to minuscule to understand I am sure as I
have always wondered how something could have no beginning and no end.
But there is a saying that I say quite a lot that sums it up.
As it was in the Beginning, is now, and ever will be. God always was.
Then again I am limited to my 4 dimensional mind, I can not think in 14
dimensions and mathematically we know there are many. Time does not
'bind' God for He created it....
Originally posted by Larryteo:I say you feel more threatened when people discuss about God. If not, why do you keep coming here to talk crap?
why should I feel threatened when I dun believe it. another epic failure explanation, pardon my pun.
when you have start to have children, better dun allow them to study science, chemistry, physics and biology. better to ingrained them with concept of god, jesus and satan into them, as science is a myth. better take them out of public school and home school them at home.
Originally posted by Larryteo:The scoffers will immediately dismiss the source, but some who would like to discuss this would maybe like to dispute the information presented. If the source is absolute bunk then the brilliant minds here should be able to dismiss these 'theories' outright no?
I would like to do it this way if you don't mind, Pick a number and then discuss only that number in your reply. Please title each of your responses with the number so readers can follow.
I will post mine first.........as a reply to another thread with BH. It was brought up that evolution is only theory but supported by Science and that no Creation can be supported as such....so lets see.
Please lets keep it civil, (ME INCLUDED)
The body and soul of Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution was his idea that evolution was made possible through natural selection. This concept is based on the suggestion that those members of a species that are a little stronger, a little larger, or run a little faster will live longer to procreate offspring with these superior adaptations. Darwin's theory suggests that millions of generations later the changes will result in new species. These adaptations are called links or intermediates.
Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong
Help! I can't fly. My head is too big, and my wings are too small.
The idea of natural selection sounds great when considering deer. The deer that can sense danger the quickest and run the fastest are able to escape the predator on a more consistent basis. However, other examples on the evolutionary tree have many laughable flaws. One of the best is the thought that a bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable in his environment. The wing was much too small for the bird to fly. Why would a bird evolve a wing that was useless? This is backwards from the evolutionary natural selection concept that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment. Why would the bird continue for millions of generations improving a wing that was useless? The theory of evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage and the opposite from natural selection. According to natural selection the members of the bird species with the smallest useless wing would be the most adaptable and most likely to survive in the largest numbers. According to the theory of natural selection birds could never evolve to fly. Evolution is simply nonsense. This is so funny. We are then led to believe that some birds got tired of carrying around a worthless half-size wing so they grew fingers on the end to help climb trees. The wings became arms and a new species was developed. Evolutionists actually believe this nonsense.
Scientific Fact No. 2 - Species Without a Link Proves Evolution is Wrong
The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason, logic and scientific proof. Evolutionists line up pictures of similar looking species and claim they evolved one to another. Humans are a great example. There are hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes. Petrified skulls and bones exist from these creatures. Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture. This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes and elephants. These pictures are placed in all evolutionists' text books to teach kids this nonsense. The picture is simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.
Scientific Fact No. 3 - Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong
Scientists a century ago believed the smallest single living cell was a simple life form. The theory developed that perhaps lightning struck a pond of water causing several molecules to combine in a random way which by chance resulted in a living cell. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.
Scientific Fact No. 4 - Human Egg and Sperm Proves Evolution is Wrong
The evolutionist ignores the problem surrounding the human female egg and the male sperm in the evolutionary theory. The female egg contains the X-chromosome and the male sperm contains either an X-chromosome for the reproduction of a male or a Y-chromosome for the reproduction of a female. The female eggs all develop within the ovaries while she is a baby (fetus) within her mother's womb. Evolutionists claim environmental factors cause small changes in the offspring in the evolutionary chain. However, the environmental experience of the female cannot change the chromosomes within her eggs and cannot have any effect upon her offspring. Her body cannot go into the eggs contained within her ovaries at her birth to make an intelligent change. Females cannot be a part of the evolutionary theory for these reasons.
Scientific Fact No. 5 - DNA Error Checking Proves Evolution is Wrong
The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory is wrong. The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and reversed.
Scientific Fact No. 6 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is Wrong
The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. Evolution is simply an empty theory.
Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chromosome Count Proves Evolution is Wrong
There is no scientific evidence that a species can change the number of chromosomes within the DNA. The chromosome count within each species is fixed. This is the reason a male from one species cannot mate successfully with a female of another species. Man could not evolve from a monkey. Each species is locked into its chromosome count that cannot change. If an animal developed an extra chromosome or lost a chromosome because of some deformity, it could not successfully mate. The defect could not be passed along to the next generation. Evolving a new species is scientifically impossible. Evolutionists prove that getting a college education does not impart wisdom.
Scientific Fact No. 8 - Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong
Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is wrong. The "Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy have to come from somewhere.
Scientific Fact No. 9 - Lack of Life on Mars Proves Evolution is Wrong
Two NASA two land rovers named Spirit and Opportunity explored Mars during 2004. The topography shows obvious signs of past liquid rivers flowing in numerous places. The rovers have proven that water was once abundant on the surface of Mars, but they have not been able to find any signs of life or any signs of past life on the planet. Mars has a proven history of flowing water on the surface and an atmosphere suitable to support life forms. The planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark" of life according to the evolutionary theory, yet there is no life on Mars. The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees. The ground has no fossils and no organisms. The place is absolutely sterile.
Scientific Fact No. 10 - Radio Silence from Space Proves Evolution is Wrong
Mars is not the only place that shows no signs of life. The entire universe lacks any sign of life. There are no radio signals that can be related to intelligent life forms. None of the billions of galaxies has been found to emit any intelligent radio signals. Scientists have been pointing every type of radio telescope possible into space for several decades in hopes of finding an intelligent signal. No signs of life beyond Earth have been found. We are alone.
Top Ten Scientific Facts Proving Evolution is False and Impossible
Now as a side note, I would like to present this article for discussion also, lets call it # 12 shall we? This one I need to look into as I do not quite follow this as I should even though I took Introductory Geology. I am really having trouble with any scientific explanation for this one.
I know I posted more than I should but most will not follow the link, maybe this way they will actually READ it before responding.
Absolute Scientific Proof the Evolutionary Theory is Dead
A story about two friends from day one.
Once upon a time there was a Polonium 218 element of the family of radioactive isotopes. Nuclear chemists classify Polonium 218 as radioactive because the nuclei of the atom continually emit alpha, beta and gamma radiation. This radiation loss causes the atom to disintegrate or decay into a smaller atom. Eventually the material will become lead, which we commonly use for fishing weights and lead-acid batteries in our cars.
Polonium 218 would be classified in elementary school as being "hyperactive." It can't sit still very long. In only three minutes, half of the atoms decay into a lighter element, and in only one day it is all changed.
Polonium 218 can be created by the decay of a parent atom such as Uranium 238 or some other element below Uranium 238 in the chain. It can also be created as the parent without having come from the decay of a heavier atom. This is very important, so remember this fact.
Once upon a time there was granite rock. Granite is a very unique rock but at the same time is very common and plentiful. It can easily be found in mountain areas such as the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. Granite is easily identified by its hard crystalline structure and light color. The crystals are large enough to be easily seen with the eye. It has an interesting structure with a mixture of light-colored quartz and feldspar crystals, and darker crystals of mica and hornblende. Granite is solid and hard without cracks or seams, and it is very strong.
Granite has another very unique property in that it cannot be created by scientists. It is considered to be an "original" material in the Earth. When melted and allowed to harden, it does not return to the original granite crystalline structure. The new smaller crystalline material is called rhyolite. Granite cannot be made by cooling the initial molten materials. This is very important, so remember this fact.
Granite never contains fossils such as are found in sedimentary rocks. All of these properties have led many scientists to refer to granite as a creation rock, since it could not have solidified from molten material according to the evolutionary theory.
Evolution cannot explain the presence of granite in its present structure. And where is this granite? Everywhere. Granite is the bedrock shell which encloses the entire Earth. Its exact thickness is unknown, but scientists have speculated that it forms a layer about 4.35 miles (7 km) thick, and in some areas possibly 20 miles (32 km) thick. It occurs on every continent.
These are the two friends from day one. We know they were friends because they lived together. The Polonium 218 lived only a very short time (3 minutes), but he left his mark on his friend, granite, in that short time. Polonium emitted alpha particles which left a very distinct mark in the granite. These marks are called Polonium halos. These halos are tiny colored concentric circles which must be viewed with a microscope. The concentric circles are actually concentric spherical marks which appear as circles after the rock is cut open. "How many halos are there?" you may ask. One trillion times 10 billion are present on every continent around the world. They are everywhere.
The Polonium 218 was the parent radioactive isotope because other distinct halos which are created by other isotopes are not present. The Polonium halos are not accompanied by Uranium 238 halos.
One minute there was nothing. The next minute there were parent Polonium 218 radioactive atoms locked in the center of solid granite. The granite rock could not have formed from cooling molten rock. Granite will not form that way. In fact, scientists cannot make granite by any method. They can make diamonds but not granite. Granite is solid. The Polonium could not penetrate existing granite because it is not porous or cracked. This was day one.
These friends are absolute scientific proof that evolution is dead. First, the granite could not have been produced by evolutionary theories, the Earth cooling, etc. Second, the Polonium locks the entire time period into an instantaneous event proven by nuclear chemistry. The time is not "millions and millions and millions" of years. The granite was produced as a solid with the Polonium parent elements inside at that instant. Within the first three minutes, half of the Polonium had decayed into a lower element. The Earth, granite and Polonium were created by God together in an instant.
Did you get all your facts from VALID scientific sources or from some christians who are worried about lossing their faith? Most of the 'facts' you posted have major flaws in their arguements which shows a deep lack of scientific knowledge and words by laymen.
Science is still progressing so obviously there are gaps which are being filled in very quickly. Every year there are new major discoveries in the different fields of science. If science isn't progressive, you won't have new technology etc to use and everyone would still be a farmer planting vegetables to live.
To put in simple, if there was no evolution, explain the simple things like H1N1, H5N1 etc etc, why are there so many variations of a flu virus and if there is no evolution, why are people so worried these virus will change and make drugs ineffective? Virus etc are very small organisms and they are continously proving their mutation/evolution by becoming resistant to current drugs and requires continous research and improvement.
How about we just make it simple and talk about some things you should know. Please use any of your religious knowledge to explain the presence of the moon, the planets, stars, our sun and meteors?
Did god have additional play doh after he finish creating earth so he made more planets but didn't have enough power to create life on them? Are stars just lights in the sky because god is afraid if theres no source of light, ppl will be too scared at nights so he created starlight? Was the sun created by god because we needed a source of warmth? If that was so, why is the sun firing off harmful UV rays at us and not just what is good for us? Are meteors etc left over crumbs from his making process that he just left flying around in space n let them occasionally come into earth's atmosphere to burn letting us see a meteor shower performance?
For humans are the inheritance of God, and the only beings he created with intelligence. The massiveness of the universe is for humans to awe in wonder at his power. That is my answer towards your question on why God created this huge universe. And obviously meteors will have a part to play in the end times, just as gamma rays might do.
And of course I am reading from a reliable source, you can rest assure from that. And, erm, if I am not wrong there was this evolutionist whom I forgot his name, but the moment he mentioned that he observed intelligent design in animals to his students, he got silenced by other evolutionists.
the articles you have presented, where did you get them from? for substantiation, please indicate their names, article name, abstract, journal books etc. please quote the source of the articles.
the reason I ask for your source is because I am not assured where did you get it from? I dun bother reading it cos I am not sure if its even worth reading, cos I doubt it and dun trust it. otherwise whats wrong with providing the source.
Originally posted by Larryteo:For humans are the inheritance of God, and the only beings he created with intelligence. The massiveness of the universe is for humans to awe in wonder at his power. That is my answer towards your question on why God created this huge universe. And obviously meteors will have a part to play in the end times, just as gamma rays might do.
And of course I am reading from a reliable source, you can rest assure from that.
If that is ur logic, how did all other life forms come about? Are you denying that animals, bateria, virus etc exist in this world? If you wanna explain the universe, you have to be able to explain everything about it and not just part of it. If you can't explain everything, that clearly shows how flawed your arguement is when others can explain and give an answer to what you cannot.
Nothing online is considered reliable unless its from a reputation journal. If you just read from random websites, i can find just as many websites saying religion is false.
Regarding evolution, just use my example about the flu virus, don't bother saying god only created humans cos if god created us, he can't have not created everything else unless you are hinting that god is not all powerful and it was others that created everything else.
Originally posted by Rooney9:the articles you have presented, where did you get them from? for substantiation, please indicate their names, article name, abstract, journal books etc. please quote the source of the articles.
Are you going to thrash them all? D: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread163678/pg1
Originally posted by dkcx:If that is ur logic, how did all other life forms come about? Are you denying that animals, bateria, virus etc exist in this world? If you wanna explain the universe, you have to be able to explain everything about it and not just part of it. If you can't explain everything, that clearly shows how flawed your arguement is when others can explain and give an answer to what you cannot.
Nothing online is considered reliable unless its from a reputation journal. If you just read from random websites, i can find just as many websites saying religion is false.
Regarding evolution, just use my example about the flu virus, don't bother saying god only created humans cos if god created us, he can't have not created everything else unless you are hinting that god is not all powerful and it was others that created everything else.
Viruses are made purposely to kill people, well, hinting from the fact that God sent plaques to Egypt to kill the the evil. About animals, they are for the amusement of humans, and also to provide humans with food and clothing. And of course some animals which you see as of no use to humans are made to sustain the eco-system.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Are you going to thrash them all? D: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread163678/pg1
oh man, thats from a forum. dun bother reading the crap posted there, cos its not from a journal or from even a magazine or from a scientist. now I dun even know if its dumb or what to quote from a forum.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Scientific Fact No. 3 - Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong
The scientific study of complex biological structures has made enormous strides in revealing intelligent design in nature. One example is the motor and propeller propulsion system called a bacterial flagellum found in many bacteria including the common E. coli. The propulsion system of the bacteria has 40 moving parts made from protein molecules including a motor, rotor, stator, drive shaft, bushings, universal joint and flexible propeller. The motor is powered by ions and can rotate at up to 100,000 rpm. It can reverse direction in only 1/4 of a revolution and has an automatic feedback control mechanism. The size is 1/100,000 of an inch (1/4,000 mm) in width, much to small to see with the human eye. One cannot deny the obvious conclusion that this system has an Intelligent Designer.
I had always heard that the smallest living thing has 23 parts, and it could not exist without all 23 and therefore could not have evolved. It made sense and I am sorry I do not remember where I heard this but the text directly above is darn near the same thing. How can evolution explain this?
How can these smallest of parts that need to be there in number evolve? It doesnt make sense. Just as the deeper you go into Space, when you travel to the smallest parts of creation, it gets MORE complicated, not less.
It would seem that some scientists at least believe that evolution can not explain this complexity in the world.
CONTENTS: Scientists Speak about the Cell
- Overconfidence in Evolution the Problem - Get rid of that fairy tale, and we will begin to deal correctly from effect to cause
- Too Much Complexity in Just One Cell - It is bigger than New York City!
- Cells Only Reproduce after Their Kind - They obey the law of Genesis 1
- Evolutionary Theories Are Ridiculous - They do not explain the facts
- Each Cell Is Full of Complicated Parts - We still do not understand its full complexity
- All its Parts Had to Begin Operating at the Same Time - Gradual changeover could not succeed
- Evolutionary Theory Offers No Solutions - We must look elsewhere for answers
SCIENTISTS SPEAK ABOUT THE CELL
Scientific Fact No. 8 - Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong
Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is wrong. The "Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy have to come from somewhere.
Well this one sure does put a halt to evolution in the grand scheme of things. I mean adaptation can explain a bunch but you can not adapt matter from nothing.
Its a real paradox, but to be fair, it can legitimately be asked, then who created God?
It is one that my mind is to minuscule to understand I am sure as I have always wondered how something could have no beginning and no end.
But there is a saying that I say quite a lot that sums it up.
As it was in the Beginning, is now, and ever will be. God always was. Then again I am limited to my 4 dimensional mind, I can not think in 14 dimensions and mathematically we know there are many. Time does not 'bind' God for He created it....
For the 1st example, you clearly lack bio knowledge to talk about that. Only thing 23 is 23 pairs of chromosomes and even that is for humans only. I'm not bio expert since i'm a chemist but having intelligent design does not mean it can't be due to evolution.
Furthermore, science is progressing day by day, what can't be solve now doesn't mean it can't be solved but our scientific capabilities are not at that level yet. There are more things science can explain that religion cannot who simply pushes it around by saying thats created by god yet they have to shutup when science starts to prove they are wrong.
The big bang theory DOES explain how matter and energy etc come about. Whoever wrote that clearly never read and study the big bang theory or has chosen to mislead himself on purpose.