Reason/science vs Supernatural
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Originally posted by laurence82:
How to prove something dont exist? Afterall non believers (aka non christians in this sense) arent the one who propagate the existence of god, a son of god etc and attack those who dont believe
'isnt enough proof something isnt good or does not exist' is something i hear from bad salesman all the time
You are the one that's attacking Chrisitans all the time. Now you are stupid again to think that all people don't read the thread before posting here.
It's time to engage you again.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Hey, good evening troll, i couldnt believe how much nonsense christianity could actually hold, but now i know the unlimited stupidity of it
hey fuck you man. Prove that you are not stupid by posting sensible arguments.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
You are the one that's attacking Chrisitans all the time. Now you are stupid again to think that all people don't read the thread before posting here.
It's time to engage you again.
nice of you to know i attack christians, esp the likes of you who love every opportunity to make swipes at other religions
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
hey fuck you man. Prove that you are not stupid by posting sensible arguments.
resorting to vulgarities? frustrated?
yeah i can see why
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Once upon a time two explorers came upon a clearing in the jungle. In the clearing were growing many beautiful flowers and fruits.
One explorer says, "Some gardener must tend this plot."
The other disagrees. "There is no gardener," says him.
So they pitch their tents and set a watch. No gardener is ever seen. "But perhaps he is an invisible gardener."
So they set up a barbed-wire fence. They electrify it. They patrol with bloodhounds. But no shrieks ever suggest that some intruder has received a shock. No movements of the wire ever betray an invisible climber. The bloodhounds never gave a cry.
Yet still the Believer is not convinced. "But there is a gardener, invisible, intangible, insensible, to electric shocks, a gardener who has no scent and makes no sound, a gardener who comes secretly to look after the garden which he loves."
At last the Sceptic despairs, "But what remains of your original assertion? Just how does what you call an invisible, intangible, eternally elusive gardener differ from an imaginary gardener or even from no gardener at all?"
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From reading this, it seems that the Believer is a fool to believe in an invisible gardener. But then, how does the garden remain tended? (not really meaning a garden, i don't need/want a botany lesson =P ) Just to show what both sides are seeing.
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guys, discuss the religion, not flame each other. no fun in flaming.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
nice of you to know i attack christians, esp the likes of you who love every opportunity to make swipes at other religions
You know what's great about Chrisitanity? No one is forced to believe. If I am a Christian, I can renounce it right this moment so that I can fuck you!
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Originally posted by ThunderFbolt:
Once upon a time two explorers came upon a clearing in the jungle. In the clearing were growing many beautiful flowers and fruits.
One explorer says, "Some gardener must tend this plot."
The other disagrees. "There is no gardener," says him.
So they pitch their tents and set a watch. No gardener is ever seen. "But perhaps he is an invisible gardener."
So they set up a barbed-wire fence. They electrify it. They patrol with bloodhounds. But no shrieks ever suggest that some intruder has received a shock. No movements of the wire ever betray an invisible climber. The bloodhounds never gave a cry.
Yet still the Believer is not convinced. "But there is a gardener, invisible, intangible, insensible, to electric shocks, a gardener who has no scent and makes no sound, a gardener who comes secretly to look after the garden which he loves."
At last the Sceptic despairs, "But what remains of your original assertion? Just how does what you call an invisible, intangible, eternally elusive gardener differ from an imaginary gardener or even from no gardener at all?"
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From reading this, it seems that the Believer is a fool to believe in an invisible gardener. But then, how does the garden remain tended? (not really meaning a garden, i don't need/want a botany lesson =P ) Just to show what both sides are seeing.
well, by reason someone would have tended the garden, thing is, existence of supreme being demand more rigorous examination than a gardener would, and we also neglect what form does this 'existence' come in...in mind, a really awesome powerful being etc
and to what extent existence of supreme being lead to? do we start believing it in form of christianity, Islam, Judaism or everyone has a chance to enter Nirvana like Buddha?
your analogy still cannot cover this assumption we all could make about god or whatever god is
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
You know what's great about Chrisitanity? No one is forced to believe. If I am a Christian, I can renounce it right this moment so that I can fuck you!
troll, cease and desist!
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Originally posted by laurence82:
troll, cease and desist!
....but you are the troll and I'm feeding the troll
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
....but you are the troll and I'm feeding the troll
sorry to burst your bubbles but you are the troll
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No, I am. =D
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salah picture
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Originally posted by laurence82:
well, by reason someone would have tended the garden, thing is, existence of supreme being demand more rigorous examination than a gardener would, and we also neglect what form does this 'existence' come in...in mind, a really awesome powerful being etc
and to what extent existence of supreme being lead to? do we start believing it in form of christianity, Islam, Judaism or everyone has a chance to enter Nirvana like Buddha?
your analogy still cannot cover this assumption we all could make about god or whatever god is
I understand it is but a simple analogy to try to explain why there are people who believe in God, and some people who don't. It is also but a stepping stone to first try to establish the existence of a spiritual being of power, if any, and not yet trying to find out exactly who this being is.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
sorry to burst your bubbles but you are the troll
You are a flamebait. I took the bait !
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My troll nicer than yours. =)
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Originally posted by ThunderFbolt:
I understand it is but a simple analogy to try to explain why there are people who believe in God, and some people who don't. It is also but a stepping stone to first try to establish the existence of a spiritual being of power, if any, and not yet trying to find out exactly who this being is.
after many years here, i have never believe in analogies, the true step to find out about anything is to take a long hard look at it, for some it strengthen their faith, for some its losing their faith
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
You are a flamebait. I took the bait !
Means you like to troll and flame? Ok accepted
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Originally posted by ThunderFbolt:
My troll nicer than yours. =)
My one is cuter
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Means you like to troll and flame? Ok accepted
You are stupid. That can be forgiven
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
You are stupid. That can be forgiven
Continue trolling pls
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Continue trolling pls
I'm feeding the troll! You have short memory too?!
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
I'm feeding the troll! You have short memory too?!
Err, then you can continue trolling ah, you have been given permission to do so
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Err, then you can continue trolling ah, you have been given permission to do so
Eh, who need your permission?
I will continue feeding the troll. Only a troll can stop me from feeding a troll!
Understand? You stupid!
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Originally posted by laurence82:
after many years here, i have never believe in analogies, the true step to find out about anything is to take a long hard look at it, for some it strengthen their faith, for some its losing their faith
ya la, but some people still need mah. last time teacher teach you x + y = z by showing 1 + 2 = 3 what...
and what kind of troll is that?! O.O