Originally posted by KnowMyPower:the orthodox jews are very strict. For gentiles they need to take a few years to read the torah be be taught carefully, verse for verse before converting to jews. Becaus they are serious about life.
Singapore rabbi abigal mordecai dont do conversions. You can speculate about this ruling but in the US you can look for a rabbi to convert.
after conversion you know and must follow all the mitzvots (laws) pertaining to you. There are a total of 613 laws, not all is pertaining to an individual. some are for women, some for priest, etc
I know all the requirements of Judaic Torah observance and I know all the requiremtns for conversion, I am asking you whether you keep His mitzvot or not. You still have not answered.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:you are the mindless one because of your agression and yet lack of spiritual knowledge. you anger me, someone who is here to spread the word of god.
If you are righteous, you dont provoke a rigtheous. I am fully aware of hat language is appropriate to use because I am not praying to god. I am defending His word against the wicked and mindless.
Clearly you have not read King David cursing Goliath. Becare of what you say, when preaching the word of god. you seriously need to pause and think as you are spiritually not there yet.
FYI, King David did not curse using foul language. Even if you are defending His Torah, what gives you the right to behave in a foul manner? What gives you a point of difference? My wife knows Abergel Mordecai personally and you will not find him using swear words and cussing like you have been doing at this forum, you shame the very thing you are purporting to defend by your behaviour.
Yahweh is NOT profane.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:I know all the requirements of Judaic Torah observance and I know all the requiremtns for conversion, I am asking you whether you keep His mitzvot or not. You still have not answered.
Yes I do to the best of my ability without the help of a rabbi.Singapore is a very challenging place because it is very paganistic in its set up everywhere.
I not only keep kosher, I am a strict vegetarian albeit being poor meaning you have to look sometimes everyday. I wear proper clothing and dont mix. My sacrifice is nothing. I cant shabbat because I have to work past 5pm friday.
But challenges aside, it is a joy to live in His ways because you really practically see the benefits, health wise and the way to defend yourself for wickedness and treat the poor.
For those who cant be converted, the jews break the standards into noahide (those who believe but not prepared for conversion, 7 laws) and gentiles (lawless).
If you are aware then why are you still against god. you dont even state your intention. Why do ask of my personal journey with god. Do you follow His laws?
Originally posted by breytonhartge:FYI, King David did not curse using foul language. Even if you are defending His Torah, what gives you the right to behave in a foul manner? What gives you a point of difference? My wife knows Abergel Mordecai personally and you will not find him using swear words and cussing like you have been doing at this forum, you shame the very thing you are purporting to defend by your behaviour.
Yahweh is NOT profane.
so what if your wife knows the rabbi. The rabbi does not welcome gentiles who ask in earnest, should I judge him for that? You choose to ignore the abuse people hurl here against me and gods words and you dont even introduce yourself.
who are you to judge me.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:Yes I do to the best of my ability without the help of a rabbi.Singapore is a very challenging place because it is very paganistic in its set up everywhere.
I not only keep kosher, I am a strict vegetarian albeit being poor meaning you have to look sometimes everyday. I wear proper clothing and dont mix. My sacrifice is nothing. I cant shabbat because I have to work past 5pm friday.
But challenges aside, it is a joy to live in His ways because you really practically see the benefits, health wise and the way to defend yourself for wickedness and treat the poor.
For those who cant be converted, the jews break the standards into noahide (those who believe but not prepared for conversion, 7 laws) and gentiles (lawless).
If you are aware then why are you still against god. you dont even state your intention. Why do ask of my personal journey with god. Do you follow His laws?
Unfortunately, the whole world is paganistic, and the challenge to all of us who profess to follow His Torah is to keep His ways inspite of the seeming impossibility.
Even if you work past 5pm friday, you still have the whole of saturday to keep Shabbat at the very least. So no excuses. 5pm in Singapore is still not evening in Yisrael, so if you hearts desire is to keep Shabbat, we serve a merciful G_d and you should ask Yahweh for mercy and grace to observe Shabbat when you can it is better to do this than not keep it at all.
It is not for me to state intention it is for you to prove your life because of what you claim to believe in.You are the one who has put it on the line. Also because of the profanity you use, it does not accurately reflect the holiness of the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov.
What do you think? ; )
Originally posted by breytonhartge:Unfortunately, the whole world is paganistic, and the challenge to all of us who profess to follow His Torah is to keep His ways inspite of the seeming impossibility.
Even if you work past 5pm friday, you still have the whole of saturday to keep Shabbat at the very least. So no excuses. 5pm in Singapore is still not evening in Yisrael, so if you hearts desire is to keep Shabbat, we serve a merciful G_d and you should ask Yahweh for mercy and grace to observe Shabbat when you can it is better to do this than not keep it at all.
It is not for me to state intention it is for you to prove your life because of what you claim to believe in.You are the one who has put it on the line. Also because of the profanity you use, it does not accurately reflect the holiness of the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov.
What do you think? ; )
i have considered this nd I know, its not me to decide becasue I have tried to ask the rabbi to at least let me understand further. but you judge me even when I am on the way to rigtheousness.
DONT FORGET I AM NOT A BORN JEW IN A JEWISH COMMUNITY WHICH IS SO MUCH EASIER TO GROW.
What is your beleief. Are you a freemason or zoinist.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:so what if your wife knows the rabbi. The rabbi does not welcome gentiles who ask in earnest, should I judge him for that? You choose to ignore the abuse people hurl here against me and gods words and you dont even introduce yourself.
who are you to judge me.
who said I was judging you? you are way too sensitive... chill a little.
Be very careful about what you say of Rabbai Abegel, if you are goy and if you seek in earnest, he is one of the most open Rabbais that has passed through Sg in a long time. He will most certainly sit down and have a discussion with you. It is very misunderstood that Jews do not welcome goyim who are seeking for the truth. If all your intention is to attack the Jewish faith, then of course Rabbai Abergel will not waste his time.
All I am saying is you had better have hard proof about things you say about Rabbai Abegel because he is so not like what you have made him out to be. When you name names in a forum especially since you claim to be believing in the faith, you don't need to be saying things about people which you cannot prove, the Jewish people have been oppressed enough and they don't need people like you to add to that oppression by giving people a false idea of who they really are.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:i have considered this nd I know, its not me to decide becasue I have tried to ask the rabbi to at least let me understand further. but you judge me even when I am on the way to rigtheousness.
DONT FORGET I AM NOT A BORN JEW IN A JEWISH COMMUNITY WHICH IS SO MUCH EASIER TO GROW.
What is your beleief. Are you a freemason or zoinist.
I am not judging you, I am giving you a suggestion that it is possible for you to keep Shabbat if you wanted to...
if you went up to the rabbai and said that you were interested in converting and you truly in your heart belived that you wanted to follow the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov, the rabbi will most certainly send you in the right direction. If you told him sincerely without shooting off your mouth with profanities etc... he would most certainly tell you what to do, but he has to first ascertain that you are sincere.
I am definitely for Yisrael, but I am by no means a freemason.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:who said I was judging you? you are way too sensitive... chill a little.
Be very careful about what you say of Rabbai Abegel, if you are goy and if you seek in earnest, he is one of the most open Rabbais that has passed through Sg in a long time. He will most certainly sit down and have a discussion with you. It is very misunderstood that Jews do not welcome goyim who are seeking for the truth. If all your intention is to attack the Jewish faith, then of course Rabbai Abergel will not waste his time.
All I am saying is you had better have hard proof about things you say about Rabbai Abegel because he is so not like what you have made him out to be. When you name names in a forum especially since you claim to be believing in the faith, you don't need to be saying things about people which you cannot prove, the Jewish people have been oppressed enough and they don't need people like you to add to that oppression by giving people a false idea of who they really are.
wait a minute, I told the truth, what have I said that you consider me the slightest slandering?
I approached him 3 times. He ask me to email him once. then he didnt follow up. I called him the second time, he said busy, prepareing for one of the festivals, the yom kippur I think a few years ago. I went down to the synagouge and was told by the security guard not to enter and ask for the rabbis appointment. The last time I spoke to him on the phone, he asked me if I know the hebrew language I said no, he said he's shorthanded and busy at the moment. I cant rememeber what was the ending message but its definitely him not able to meet up with me. All the time in a respectful and calm manner I spoke.
By the way, you have not introduce yourself and your belief. why
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:wait a minute, I told the truth, what have I said that you consider me the slightest slandering?
I approached him 3 times. He ask me to email him once. then he didnt follow up. I called him the second time, he said busy, prepareing for one of the festivals, the yom kippur I think a few years ago. I went down to the synagouge and was told by the security guard not to enter and ask for the rabbis appointment. The last time I spoke to him on the phone, he asked me if I know the hebrew language I said no, he said he's shorthanded and busy at the moment. I cant rememeber what was the ending message but its definitely him not able to meet up with me. All the time in a respectful and calm manner I spoke.
By the way, you have not introduce yourself and your belief. why
if you really want it, you have to push in and let him know that you are sincere... remember that he is only one rabbai in Singapore... make sure you don't call him during any of the feasts... and if you call him now he would be busy preparing for Hannukkah. Being busy and not welcoming you are two totally seprate things...everyone knows that the Synagogue in Singapore is not open to the public...
Well you know my id name and you know I believe in the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov. So that is my introduction and my belief already right?
ok, thanks for the hint. I apologise for the initial rudeness. I was flamed by alot of posters and got caught in the process. On hindsight I shouldnt have posted such controversial issues in the first place. I guess www.messiahtruth.com was for another purose altogether.
I will try to call the rabbi after I am financially stable and have my own house soon in a few years. Also, I need to respect my partner's wishes on being a full convert. Not easy at all. All this years and I still cant let the idea of cnverting go.
I should stop this thread and the rest of them. thanks breyton.
ok, thanks for the hint. I apologise for the initial rudeness. I was flamed by alot of posters and got caught in the process. On hindsight I shouldnt have posted such controversial issues in the first place. I guess www.messiahtruth.com was for another purose altogether.
I will try to call the rabbi after I am financially stable and have my own house soon in a few years. Also, I need to respect my partner's wishes on being a full convert. Not easy at all. All this years and I still cant let the idea of cnverting go.
I should stop this thread and the rest of them. thanks breyton.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:precisely. the law says the pig is dirty, the doctors checked and agreed its a dirty by nature not fit for consumption.
And Herzogs continues eating kway chap.
Oh, yes the truth is out here, there and everyway.
Some ppl grow up observe, test and learn. some learn how to talk cock and improve their art of sarcasm.
FYI, I do not eat meat of any kind nor physical food of any kind. I tend to consume kilowatts of eletricity though.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
FYI, I do not eat meat of any kind nor physical food of any kind. I tend to consume kilowatts of eletricity though.
Are friends electric - Gary Numan
Originally posted by breytonhartge:I know all the requirements of Judaic Torah observance and I know all the requiremtns for conversion, I am asking you whether you keep His mitzvot or not. You still have not answered.
Now is my turn to ask you.
Are you an orthodox jew and do you practice the law.
I realsie you are not clear in your beliefs but act as if you where a rabbi of an orthodox jew which I thought you were. That is devious and not respectful at all even if you are a jew.
You glaringly did not state if you practice the law but jump straight in and question the very thing you yourself have not explicitly do. trying to hit on my relationship with god knowing full well as a new noahide who is not guided yet by a rabbi is not easy.
You carefully say you "know" but do you "practice" the law is another matter. And you further demean me by saying I will be against god if I don't complete all?! Sly, very sly. Its as if you dont read the same bible at all.
That doesnt mean the scriptures I brought forth is utterly untrue. It is still reasonable and anyway, its started by respected rabbis in the states and israel.
On hindsight, its my cursing that is sinful, which I have apologised (altho baring in mind I was flamed first). But other than that you have sinned too by saying that a noahide not converted by a rabbi yet should fulfill the whole law!!!!!!!!! you have lied becasue the scripture did not say it and that is your sin.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:I am not judging you, I am giving you a suggestion that it is possible for you to keep Shabbat if you wanted to...
if you went up to the rabbai and said that you were interested in converting and you truly in your heart belived that you wanted to follow the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov, the rabbi will most certainly send you in the right direction. If you told him sincerely without shooting off your mouth with profanities etc... he would most certainly tell you what to do, but he has to first ascertain that you are sincere.
I am definitely for Yisrael, but I am by no means a freemason.
Sorry it is not possible to keep shabbat as I have to work on saturday. I cant find any jobs on a 5 day week. its about survival. Sometimes you cant want what you dont have
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:Now is my turn to ask you.
Are you an orthodox jew and do you practice the law.
I realsie you are not clear in your beliefs but act as if you where a rabbi of an orthodox jew which I thought you were. That is devious and not respectful at all even if you are a jew.
You glaringly did not state if you practice the law but jump straight in and question the very thing you yourself have not explicitly do. trying to hit on my relationship with god knowing full well as a new noahide who is not guided yet by a rabbi is not easy.
You carefully say you "know" but do you "practice" the law is another matter. And you further demean me by saying I will be against god if I don't complete all?! Sly, very sly. Its as if you dont read the same bible at all.
That doesnt mean the scriptures I brought forth is utterly untrue. It is still reasonable and anyway, its started by respected rabbis in the states and israel.
On hindsight, its my cursing that is sinful, which I have apologised (altho baring in mind I was flamed first). But other than that you have sinned too by saying that a noahide not converted by a rabbi yet should fulfill the whole law!!!!!!!!! you have lied becasue the scripture did not say it and that is your sin.
I keep all the commandments of Yahweh as stated in the Tenach. I also believe in Yeshua as Mashiach. The two are not mutually exclusive.If you want to live in the land of Yisrael, if you want to join with Yisrael, you WILL have to keep Torah.
I did not say I was a rabbai.
Anyone who chooses to believe in the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov will have to keep Torah. It is our first and very basic foundation from which all else will grow.
I read the same bible as you, I also keep Torah. I also believe in Yeshua.
I will refer you to B'midbar15:15. Have a read of that and tell me what it says.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:Sorry it is not possible to keep shabbat as I have to work on saturday. I cant find any jobs on a 5 day week. its about survival. Sometimes you cant want what you dont have
how much would you like to be challenged? how much do you want to grow?
Originally posted by breytonhartge:I keep all the commandments of Yahweh as stated in the Tenach. I also believe in Yeshua as Mashiach. The two are not mutually exclusive.If you want to live in the land of Yisrael, if you want to join with Yisrael, you WILL have to keep Torah.
I did not say I was a rabbai.
Anyone who chooses to believe in the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov will have to keep Torah. It is our first and very basic foundation from which all else will grow.
I read the same bible as you, I also keep Torah. I also believe in Yeshua.
I will refer you to B'midbar15:15. Have a read of that and tell me what it says.
First, as you do not wish to mention if you are a jew by birth I would assume you are not one.
The orthodox jews dont take kindly to Jews who believe in Jesus. This is not me, but the website stances. As a goy or noahide, I am perplexed myself the complexity of WHY?
Numbers 15:15 brings up the issues of the destruction of the temple hence, the offering issue. blood sacrifice is not essentially required as brought out in the website quoting Hashem is instances requiring that we repent and pray. strangers sojourned and having one law with the israelites that were given the land. Laws ERRORED (not taught?) vs Laws Intentionally broken.
Comparing those jews who actually experience god himself and actually given land and yet still despise Him! I cannot fathom. And to day the goyim is being microscoped.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:how much would you like to be challenged? how much do you want to grow?
A question, Shabbat accuracy. Pope Gregory changed the days and times as perhaps prophecised. So is the shabbat shabbat?
First barleys of the year.
What do you think of the Karaties
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:First, as you do not wish to mention if you are a jew by birth I would assume you are not one.
The orthodox jews dont take kindly to Jews who believe in Jesus. This is not me, but the website stances. As a goy or noahide, I am perplexed myself the complexity of WHY?
Numbers 15:15 brings up the issues of the destruction of the temple hence, the offering issue. blood sacrifice is not essentially required as brought out in the website quoting Hashem is instances requiring that we repent and pray. strangers sojourned and having one law with the israelites that were given the land. Laws ERRORED (not taught?) vs Laws Intentionally broken.
Comparing those jews who actually experience god himself and actually given land and yet still despise Him! I cannot fathom. And to day the goyim is being microscoped.
B'midbar 15:15 states that there shall be one Torah for both the goy and the Israelite. So whether we are goy or a child of Yisrael, we still have to follow Torah. You make too many assumptions.
I do not believe in jesus, I believe in Yeshua. There is a difference.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:A question, Shabbat accuracy. Pope Gregory changed the days and times as perhaps prophecised. So is the shabbat shabbat?
First barleys of the year.
What do you think of the Karaties
Is shabbat shabbat?
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:Are friends electric - Gary Numan
What do you call humans without souls?
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
What do you call humans without souls?
Everyone of us except, James Brown?
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:wait a minute, I told the truth, what have I said that you consider me the slightest slandering?
I approached him 3 times. He ask me to email him once. then he didnt follow up. I called him the second time, he said busy, prepareing for one of the festivals, the yom kippur I think a few years ago. I went down to the synagouge and was told by the security guard not to enter and ask for the rabbis appointment. The last time I spoke to him on the phone, he asked me if I know the hebrew language I said no, he said he's shorthanded and busy at the moment. I cant rememeber what was the ending message but its definitely him not able to meet up with me. All the time in a respectful and calm manner I spoke.
By the way, you have not introduce yourself and your belief. why
Do not approach a goat from the front, a horse from the back or a fool from any side.
That's what that Rabbi is doing.