The jews are finally revealling now why chrisitianity are not even remotely a jewish religion and are truly fighting back by seriously rebutting scripture by scripture in this website
www.messiahtruth.com
Its trully mindblowing even for the neutral. If you read it you can sort of understand why christianity are always trying to put a lid on the jews for so long. The truth will shake the money tree.
One very subdued but extremely important FACT - the english old testament bible was translated from the hebrew (meaning taken from the rabbis during babylonian exile) BUT the old christians also strategically MISTRANSLITERATE (change meaning / cheat) some very important scritpure. especially the ones about the role of the jewish messiah that is to come and reunite the jews first and then physically rule the world in jerusalem. None of which jesus fullfiled, let alone come back again.
There is a case here.
I guess inorder to find out the who ahs grounds is to learn hebrew? logical rite? or else how we know if the person in the podium is telling the truth. Didnt god himself said only trust Him (meaning moses and HIs chosen people)?
It is my duty to fairly inform and let people decide. there is nothing new under the sun anyway.
Let the spiritual journey truly begin and discuss this serious topic.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:The jews are finally revealling now why chrisitianity are not even remotely a jewish religion and are truly fighting back by seriously rebutting scripture by scripture in this website
www.messiahtruth.com
Its trully mindblowing even for the neutral. If you read it you can sort of understand why christianity are always trying to put a lid on the jews for so long. The truth will shake the money tree.
One very subdued but extremely important FACT - the english old testament bible was translated from the hebrew (meaning taken from the rabbis during babylonian exile) BUT the old christians also strategically MISTRANSLITERATE (change meaning / cheat) some very important scritpure. especially the ones about the role of the jewish messiah that is to come and reunite the jews first and then physically rule the world in jerusalem. None of which jesus fullfiled, let alone come back again.
There is a case here.
I guess inorder to find out the who ahs grounds is to learn hebrew? logical rite? or else how we know if the person in the podium is telling the truth. Didnt god himself said only trust Him (meaning moses and HIs chosen people)?
It is my duty to fairly inform and let people decide. there is nothing new under the sun anyway.
Let the spiritual journey truly begin and discuss this serious topic.
Simply put, religion is nonsense to hoodwink the simple people.
and they did it to millions.
but naturally when ppl see christianity slyness bcos they end up contradicting themselves, ppl will come to their senses...by then the shadow ppl at the top of the food chain will start a world war again. then everything reset.
for the jews they dont contradict themselves because they wrote the book. so for them, the question is whether you believe the god of israel is the one and only god.
but for the christians to have the cheek to say jews are at fault is totally laughable in retrospect as an ex-christian myself. The romans and greeks think they are smart with with their pagans trying to decive ppl for centuries but sori man now internet, every word is laid out for all to study and concur.
Personally I believe God of israel is real and the creator. Jesus was a test to the Jews to see if they listen to god and not be con by JC magic show.
this is even more funnier then bored' flamming on City Harvest
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!
This is a pissing match!!!!
Both will suffer heavy casaulties!!
Hahahahahaha!
The mis-translation was discussed in "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. If I remember correctly, it is chapter 2 of this book.
I appeal to all christian to read this book and stop deluding yourself by an ancient scribbling.
Wah milo and youayu. both response almost in minutes of each other. Same person ah?The point is Im quite surprise by your "witty" oneliners. I am joker sometimes but seriously is this topic remotely funny at all?
Or you guys just trolls? Judging by the hour you log in....possibly.
What I have presented is well meaning and its take more than cheap shots to deflect the findings bcos this website is not written by some shady best seller Dan brown guy...these are a group of respected rabbis in all across the globe.
And Milo. What casualties you talking about? you want to PM me in my msg box?
Wouldn't it be funny if Jesus Christ came back but told us Heaven was Jews only?
i wont laugh first unless god in the middle is laughing about it as well. btw, earth will still be ard so not sure heaven would be a better place in terms of property market value.
Originally posted by laffin123:The mis-translation was discussed in "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. If I remember correctly, it is chapter 2 of this book.
I appeal to all christian to read this book and stop deluding yourself by an ancient scribbling.
in support for REASON and EVIDENCE, I urge you to read the list of books found in this link : Dawkins' Debunkers: A Reading List
So after being mislead, it's time to read a little wider....and widen your horizon in case you are still stuck with old and out-dated info.....and if you are hungry, don't forget to eat your ##@@%%!! pie.
Yes, stop deluding yourself in support for REASON and EVIDENCE and wake up.
The 5 years old still cannot stop laffin at the joke about how the Bible "cannot hold on it's own" when one cannot understand it "from head to toe. Anyway, who in the world can claim they understand 100% of it".
ha..ha... ha... Oops...I mean laughing not laffin.
If you bother to read wider, you know Richard Dawkins misrepresented the Bible and if you re-study your Bible, you will know it's true (that he misrepresneted).
By the way, are you posting in support of what TS said and that of the link he provided?
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:and they did it to millions.
but naturally when ppl see christianity slyness bcos they end up contradicting themselves, ppl will come to their senses...by then the shadow ppl at the top of the food chain will start a world war again. then everything reset.
Excuse me, Herzog Zwei said :"religion is nonsense to hoodwink the simple people" and that include Judaism.....and it seems like you agreed with him. I.E. Judaism is nonsense.
Hi happyinfo2
Let me clarify, Im neither jew nor chrisitian. I am a former christian for 15 years and my belief is that jesus and paul does not stand with god of israel as reference to old testament is full of contradictions and deception in certain instances.
BUT, god of israel to me is real and is the true creator of this world. And there lies the sad irony. Let me explain.
If you read the old testament carefully especially the laws god laid down for moses. It is very detailed and elaborate on not only what is proper behaviour, clean and good for humans but also it demostrates that He is the creator. example, fins and scales of sea creatures are clean to eat?! Which religion or god have this goodness and more importantly knowledge to decipher which is clean at that time?!!!!
Doesnt that tell you the message is of Love and proving He is the creator at the same time? thats why the deuteronomy, numbers and leviticus is extremely important and always strongly avoided by church leaders to inform in detail to followers. And that's why jews are always targetted by different religion (including christianity and muslims leaders, not the common believers as most are unaware of these factual disscusion levels).
I may be banned here bcos these are big secrets that will ruffle the money men. I dont care. At least some of you have read it, I have done my part.
Happyinfo2
I dont agree with Herzog_Zwei. However, its ok. I am here to reclaim the understanding of God but to put a stop to christianity obvious tactical preaching to believers which naturally will make them alienate life further and ultimately dont belief in God like some here has rightfully voiced out. They are half right that christianity is full of lies and contradiction - they have done their research and common sense do prevail. But if they dont hold a grudge against god and persist further to read in detail the torah or what the christians try to make it insignificant as possible "OLD" testament (god say my LAW is FOREVER and they sneakily say old) - they will find that GOD of torah is the ultimate one and no other dared to declare so(im open to other religions discussion to post here if they have info on supremacy claims).
BTW, i am open for opinions still cos I am humble enough to listen and discuss. This open mentality has not only freed me from christianity's vicious programming stronghold of verses on peoples reading and understanding, it has led me finally back to God.
An an example of truth - do you know if you follow the dietary laws in the deuteronomy chapters, your health will improve trememdously? dont have to believe me. try it yourself.
And when you realise its good for you, you wonder - why you anyhow eat what Apostle peter's strange say in a dream of animals dropping down from heaven verses? blindly eating pork and shell fish and all that is unclean. End up having a high chance of cancer and go to Jesus and pray for miracle. Do you get the flaw of christian's teachings?
Originally posted by Happyinfo2:in support for REASON and EVIDENCE, I urge you to read the list of books found in this link : Dawkins' Debunkers: A Reading List
So after being mislead, it's time to read a little wider....and widen your horizon in case you are still stuck with old and out-dated info.....and if you are hungry, don't forget to eat your ##@@%%!! pie.
Yes, stop deluding yourself in support for REASON and EVIDENCE and wake up.
The 5 years old still cannot stop laffin at the joke about how the Bible "cannot hold on it's own" when one cannot understand it "from head to toe. Anyway, who in the world can claim they understand 100% of it".
ha..ha... ha... Oops...I mean laughing not laffin.
If you bother to read wider, you know Richard Dawkins misrepresented the Bible and if you re-study your Bible, you will know it's true (that he misrepresneted).
By the way, are you posting in support of what TS said and that of the link he provided?
Hi Happyinfo2,
I am happy to learn that you are following all my past comment in this forum.
I ate the humble pie last time when your fellow christian told me about a latest scientific development. I am grateful to him/her.
Yes, I will check out the link you posted. Thanks.
Yes, by the way, I posted a question in an earlier thread, no christan cares to debate with me. "Where does Cain's wife come from?" Genesis 4:17. I re-state again: Bible holds no water.
Laffin
Hi Laffin123 and Happyinfo2,
First :
Its obvious you both are hijacking this thread intention by misdirecting it about other things.
Second :
either you join in and discuss or I have no choice to politely ask you both to create your own threads
third :
It highly possible you guys are from that special club, you know the arrogant symbol in the back of the US one dollar bill ppl. If you are then I really cant imagine when judgement day comes. Because you are not the slightest curious about the english text cheating in the bible which showed that the jews are the final ppl to ask.
Instead you jump to from
point A: reject christianity
to point C: god is not real.
and conveniently side step the most important point B: so what are the righteous jews finally telling us in their website. Hello? The jews wrote the book. the christian hijack it.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:Hi Laffin123 and Happyinfo2,
First :
Its obvious you both are hijacking this thread intention by misdirecting it about other things.
Second :
either you join in and discuss or I have no choice to politely ask you both to create your own threads
third :
It highly possible you guys are from that special club, you know the arrogant symbol in the back of the US one dollar bill ppl. If you are then I really cant imagine when judgement day comes. Because you are not the slightest curious about the english text cheating in the bible which showed that the jews are the final ppl to ask.
Instead you jump to from
point A: reject christianity
to point C: god is not real.
and conveniently side step the most important point B: so what are the righteous jews finally telling us in their website. Hello? The jews wrote the book. the christian hijack it.
Knowmypower,
You have answered it very clearly "The jews wrote the book".
Your supernatural being is just an imagination of some cavemen in the past. Religion is just a man made stuff. Get over it.
laffin
Laffin123,
This is a thread of Jews vs christian scripture.
Not only you are barking at the wrong thread and tht I have been polite in telling you, you are also a sneaky/lazy person becasue I asked you other questions and you choose not answer them.
Get it straight. ppl like you say theres no god, fair enough bcos He doesnt appear physically in front of us. Happy? Now. fuck off.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:Laffin123,
This is a thread of Jews vs christian scripture.
Not only you are barking at the wrong thread and tht I have been polite in telling you, you are also a sneaky/lazy person becasue I asked you other questions and you choose not answer them.
Get it straight. ppl like you say theres no god, fair enough bcos He doesnt appear physically in front of us. Happy? Now. fuck off.
This is my last post in this thread.
"Don't be afraid of death. There is nothing after it. Blank.
It is like switching off a television.
No sound no picture. Peaceful and the End."
Wishing everyone a wonderful life journey.
laffin
sori, you wont have the last word here.
Dont sound pathetic and totally defeated. It helps no one. If you need people to cheer you up, then ask. Dont have to be a total creep to prove your point.
Off course people are afraid of death or the unknown.
Don't have to rub it in by sounding sarcastic or condescending, again. Since you like philosophy so much, why not join the greeks, they like to shave their beards and homo one another while figuring how to write the greatest sales MLM conjob is history........NEW TESTAMENT!
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:What I have presented is well meaning and its take more than cheap shots to deflect the findings bcos this website is not written by some shady best seller Dan brown guy...these are a group of respected rabbis in all across the globe.
And Milo. What casualties you talking about? you want to PM me in my msg box?
Hahaha...this revelation might cause a fight among them.....
anyway, i dun give a damn to all religion....
just taking the chance to add fuel to fire
Originally posted by laffin123:Hi Happyinfo2,
I am happy to learn that you are following all my past comment in this forum.
I ate the humble pie last time when your fellow christian told me about a latest scientific development. I am grateful to him/her.
Yes, I will check out the link you posted. Thanks.
Yes, by the way, I posted a question in an earlier thread, no christan cares to debate with me. "Where does Cain's wife come from?" Genesis 4:17. I re-state again: Bible holds no water.
Laffin
Hi Laughing...oops laffin123 I mean....
I agree with you that the Bible holds no water......actually, the Bible holds the TRUTH. Not water.
You are right that no Christains cares to debate with you because you made it clear that you are simply anti-Christians in support for REASON and EVIDENCE. You have no reaon and evidence to support your claim.....
You also made it clear to us that although you claimed to have studied the Bible, you conclusion is that one cannot understand it "from head to toe. Anyway, who in the world can claim they understand 100% of it".
So you stand is simply based on your inability to understand the Bible. Nothing to do with support for REASON and EVIDENCE.
Have a good day.
Originally posted by KnowMyPower:Hi happyinfo2
Let me clarify, Im neither jew nor chrisitian. I am a former christian for 15 years and my belief is that jesus and paul does not stand with god of israel as reference to old testament is full of contradictions and deception in certain instances.
BUT, god of israel to me is real and is the true creator of this world. And there lies the sad irony. Let me explain.
If you read the old testament carefully especially the laws god laid down for moses. It is very detailed and elaborate on not only what is proper behaviour, clean and good for humans but also it demostrates that He is the creator. example, fins and scales of sea creatures are clean to eat?! Which religion or god have this goodness and more importantly knowledge to decipher which is clean at that time?!!!!
Doesnt that tell you the message is of Love and proving He is the creator at the same time? thats why the deuteronomy, numbers and leviticus is extremely important and always strongly avoided by church leaders to inform in detail to followers. And that's why jews are always targetted by different religion (including christianity and muslims leaders, not the common believers as most are unaware of these factual disscusion levels).
I may be banned here bcos these are big secrets that will ruffle the money men. I dont care. At least some of you have read it, I have done my part.
You are not jew or christians....what are you? Ex-Christian who based on one anti-Christian website and telling all Christians that their beliefs is wrong?
I am a common Christian and my Church has never attack any other faith or other denominations.......
No, I don't think you will be banned here because there is no moderators here as far as I know....
And I don't think you are revealing any secrets here.....just some anti-Christians stuff.
why so serious? later many many white hair.
i will just let M&P do the job
why do i need to be serious when its obvious crap