I know breaking away from Christianity is almost impossible
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
u chose the right path. to break away from christianity. i am an atheist myself and its more free to be an atheist than to be of any religion
Awesome!.....another fellow atheistLai....One jug of ice milo!
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Originally posted by Mr Milo:
Awesome!.....another fellow atheistLai....One jug of ice milo!
i wan hot milo
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Originally posted by youyayu:
tio rejected by a christian girl isit?
No. :)
Just that its rare to be born as a human to get to know and learn the Dharma and go to a higher heaven.
I dun want to go to that lowly heaven and sing praises to God eternally.
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
u chose the right path. to break away from christianity. i am an atheist myself and its more free to be an atheist than to be of any religion
I'm curious.Ever heard of Pascal's wager?
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Originally posted by Ex-Christian:
....But possible.
These 2 websites helped me to break away from Christianity.
They are meant only for Christians that want to break away.
Other Christians, DON'T READ THEM !!!! I don't want argument! Christians should be “open to reason” (James 3:17 RSV), that we should “reason together” (Isaiah 1:18) and “he who hates correction will die” (Proverbs 15:10) to understand my perspective that the bible has MANY shortcomings.
With God all things are possible.
- Matthew 29:26
And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of
the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the
valley, because they had chariots of iron.
- Judges 1:19And Abraham said... She is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
- Genesis 20:11,12And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel.
- II Samuel 24:1
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
- I Chronicles 21:1And [Jesus] could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a few sick folk and healed them.
- Mark 6:5God Discriminates Against the Handicapped
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Tell Aaron that in all future generations, his descendants who have physical defects will not qualify to offer food to their God. No one who has a defect may come near to me, whether he is blind or lame, stunted or deformed, or has a broken foot or hand, or has a humped back or is a dwarf, or has a defective eye, or has oozing sores or scabs on his skin, or has damaged testicles. Even though he is a descendant of Aaron, his physical defects disqualify him from presenting offerings to the LORD by fire. Since he has a blemish, he may not offer food to his God. However, he may eat from the food offered to God, including the holy offerings and the most holy offerings. Yet because of his physical defect, he must never go behind the inner curtain or come near the altar, for this would desecrate my holy places. I am the LORD who makes them holy." (Leviticus 21:16-23 NLT)
God Discriminates Against the Handicapped
No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord. (Deuteronomy 23:2 NAB)
The Prince of Peace?
(Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB)
Jesus Falsely Predicts the End of the World
"And there will be strange events in the skies – signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!"
"Then he gave them this illustration: "Notice the fig tree, or any other tree. When the leaves come out, you know without being told that summer is near. Just so, when you see the events I've described taking place, you can be sure that the Kingdom of God is near. I assure you, this generation will not pass from the scene until all these events have taken place. Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will remain forever" (Luke 21:25-33 NLT)
Killing the Good Samaritan
"The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals."
"When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God." (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)Ritual Human Sacrifice
"At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."
"So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith - twenty towns - and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter - his only child - ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter." Judges 11:29-40Laws of Rape
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29God Makes Wicked People
The Lord has made everything for his own ends, even the wicked for the evil day. (Proverbs 16:4 NAB)
Beat Children of Mixed Marriages
About the same time I realized that some of the men of Judah had married women from Ashdod, Ammon, and Moab. Even worse, half their children spoke in the language of Ashdod or some other people and could not speak the language of Judah at all. So I confronted them and called down curses on them. I beat some of them and pulled out their hair. I made them swear before God that they would not let their children intermarry with the pagan people of the land. "Wasn't this exactly what led King Solomon of Israel into sin?" I demanded. "There was no king from any nation who could compare to him, and God loved him and made him king over all Israel. But even he was led into sin by his foreign wives. How could you even think of committing this sinful deed and acting unfaithfully toward God by marrying foreign women? (Nehemiah 13:23-27 NLT)
A Ravenous Appetite is Bad
And put a knife to your throat if you have a ravenous appetite. (Proverbs 23:2 NAB)
God Approves of Incest
"Afterward Lot left Zoar because he was afraid of the people there, and he went to live in a cave in the mountains with his two daughters. One day the older daughter said to her sister, "There isn't a man anywhere in this entire area for us to marry. And our father will soon be too old to have children. Come, let's get him drunk with wine, and then we will sleep with him. That way we will preserve our family line through our father." So that night they got him drunk, and the older daughter went in and slept with her father. He was unaware of her lying down or getting up again. The next morning the older daughter said to her younger sister, "I slept with our father last night. Let's get him drunk with wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him. That way our family line will be preserved." So that night they got him drunk again, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. As before, he was unaware of her lying down or getting up again."
"So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father. When the older daughter gave birth to a son, she named him Moab. He became the ancestor of the nation now known as the Moabites. When the younger daughter gave birth to a son, she named him Ben-ammi. He became the ancestor of the nation now known as the Ammonites." (Genesis 19:30-38 NLT)
God Admits He Did Evil Things
[The prophet Jeremiah speaking] "Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, to whom you sent me to offer your prayer: If you remain quietly in this land I will build you up, and not tear you down; I will plant you, not uproot you; for I regret the evil I have done you." (Jeremiah 42:9-10 NAB)
God is Illogical
[In response to the question of why the apocalypse did not occur during the apostles lifetimes as Jesus had predicted] "But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day." (2 Peter 3:8 NAB)
Not only is this an obvious logical fallacy, it also ignores the fact that Jesus did not give a date that the apocalypse would occur. He said that it would occur during the lifetime of the apostles. Equating a day with a thousand years does not fix Jesus' false prediction in Luke 9:27 and many other places.
Kill Brats
"From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces." (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)Rape of Female Captives
"Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God hands them over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you are attracted to her and want to marry her. If this happens, you may take her to your home, where she must shave her head, cut her fingernails, and change all her clothes. Then she must remain in your home for a full month, mourning for her father and mother. After that you may marry her. But if you marry her and then decide you do not like her, you must let her go free. You may not sell her or treat her as a slave, for you have humiliated her." (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT)Natural Disasters are God's Wrath
The LORD is a jealous God, filled with vengeance and wrath. He takes revenge on all who oppose him and furiously destroys his enemies! The LORD is slow to get angry, but his power is great, and he never lets the guilty go unpunished. He displays his power in the whirlwind and the storm. The billowing clouds are the dust beneath his feet. At his command the oceans and rivers dry up, the lush pastures of Bashan and Carmel fade, and the green forests of Lebanon wilt. In his presence the mountains quake, and the hills melt away; the earth trembles, and its people are destroyed. Who can stand before his fierce anger? Who can survive his burning fury? His rage blazes forth like fire, and the mountains crumble to dust in his presence. The LORD is good. When trouble comes, he is a strong refuge. And he knows everyone who trusts in him. But he sweeps away his enemies in an overwhelming flood. He pursues his foes into the darkness of night. (Nahum 1:2-8 NLT)
Shut Up Women!
As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:33-35 NAB)
Hate Your Family
(Jesus Speaking) If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he can not be my disciple. (Luke 14:26 NAB)
God is the Source of Evil Spirits 2
Then an evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with spear in hand and David was playing the harp nearby. Saul tried to nail David to the wall with the spear , but David eluded Saul, so that the spear struck only the wall, and David got away safe. (1 Samuel 19:9-10 NAB)
Don't Grab Testicles
If two Israelite men are fighting and the wife of one tries to rescue her husband by grabbing the testicles of the other man, her hand must be cut off without pity. (Deuteronomy 25:11-12 NLT)
God Wants to Kill Moses for not Circumcising His Son
On the journey, when Moses and his family had stopped for the night, the LORD confronted Moses and was about to kill him. But Zipporah, his wife, took a flint knife and circumcised her son. She threw the foreskin at Moses' feet and said, "What a blood-smeared bridegroom you are to me!" (When she called Moses a "blood-smeared bridegroom," she was referring to the circumcision.) After that, the LORD left him alone. (Exodus 4:24-26 NLT)
Foreskins for a Dowry
And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, to be avenged of the king's enemies. Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king's son-in-law. And the days were not expired; and David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full number to the king, that he might be the king's son-in-law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife. (1 Samuel 18:25-27 ASV)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Old is New
Dear friends, I am not writing a new commandment, for it is an old one you have always had, right from the beginning. This commandment – to love one another – is the same message you heard before. Yet it is also new. (1 John 2:7-8 NLT)
Become a Eunuch for God
[Jesus speaking] For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV)
Earthquake Proof Buildings
Masonry bonded with wooden beams is not loosened by an earthquake. (Sirach 22:16 NAB)
Eunuchs and Virgins are Special in Heaven
Yes, blessed is she who, childless and undefiled, knew not transgression of the marriage bed; she shall bear fruit at the visitation of souls. So also the eunuch whose hand wrought no misdeed, who held no wicked thoughts against the LORD- For he shall be given fidelity's choice reward and a more gratifying heritage in the LORD'S temple. (Wisdom 3:13-14 NAB)
Interracial Marriage a Sin
After all that has come upon us for our evil deeds and our great guilt-though you, our God, have made less of our sinfulness than it deserved and have allowed us to survive as we do-- shall we again violate your commandments by intermarrying with these abominable peoples? Would you not become so angered with us as to destroy us without remnant or survivor? O LORD, God of Israel, you are just; yet we have been spared, the remnant we are today. Here we are before you in our sins. Because of all this, we can no longer stand in your presence. (Ezra 9:13-15 NAB)
Lust is Adultery
But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust in his eye has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye – even if it is your good eye – causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your hand – even if it is your stronger hand – causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. (Matthew 5:28-30 NLT)
Test Your Faith
"Even if you had faith as small as a mustard seed," the Lord answered, "you could say to this mulberry tree, 'May God uproot you and throw you into the sea,' and it would obey you! (Luke 17:6 NLT)
A Flat Earth
Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence, (Matthew 4:8 NAB)
Don't Think
Trust in the LORD with all your heart, on your own intelligence rely not. (Proverbs 3:5 NAB)
Circumcise Your Slaves
God said to Abraham, "As for you, you shall keep my covenant, you and your offspring after you throughout their generations. This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your offspring after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you. Throughout your generations every male among you shall be circumcised when he is eight days old, including the slave born in your house and the one bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring. Both the slave born in your house and the one bought with your money must be circumcised. So shall my covenant be in your flesh an everlasting covenant. (Genesis 17:9-13 NRS)
Men with Long Hair are a Disgrace
Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering. (1 Corinthians 11:14-15 NAS)
The Earth Doesn't Move
You [God] fixed the earth on its foundation, never to be moved. (Psalm 104:5 NAB)
Beat Your Kids
Whoever spoils his son will bind up his wounds, and will suffer heartache at every cry. An unbroken horse turns out stubborn, and an unchecked son turns out headstrong. Pamper a child, and he will terrorize you; play with him, and he will grieve you. Do not laugh with him, or you will have sorrow with him, and in the end you will gnash your teeth. Give him no freedom in his youth, and do not ignore his errors. Bow down his neck in his youth, and beat his sides while he is young, or else he will become stubborn and disobey you, and you will have sorrow of soul from him. Discipline your son and make his yoke heavy, so that you may not be offended by his shamelessness. (Sirach 30:7-13 NRS)
No Sex During Menstruation
If a man lies in sexual intercourse with a woman during her menstrual period, both of them shall be cut off from their people, because they have laid bare the flowing fountain of her blood. (Leviticus 20:18NAB)
Jesus Doesn’t Want to Save Everyone
And when he [Jesus] was alone, those present along with the Twelve questioned him about the parables. He answered them, "The mystery of the kingdom of God has been granted to you. But to those outside everything comes in parables, so that 'they may look and see but not perceive, and hear and listen but not understand, in order that they may not be converted and be forgiven.'" (Mark 4:10-12 NAB)
Lightning is God's Weapon
He covers his hands with the lightning, and commands it to strike the mark. Its crashing tells about him; he is jealous with anger against iniquity.
"At this also my heart trembles, and leaps out of its place. Listen, listen to the thunder of his voice and the rumbling that comes from his mouth. Under the whole heaven he lets it loose, and his lightning to the corners of the earth. After it his voice roars; he thunders with his majestic voice and he does not restrain the lightnings when his voice is heard. God thunders wondrously with his voice; he does great things that we cannot comprehend.
For to the snow he says, "Fall on the earth'; and the shower of rain, his heavy shower of rain, serves as a sign on everyone's hand, so that all whom he has made may know it. Then the animals go into their lairs and remain in their dens. From its chamber comes the whirlwind, and cold from the scattering winds. By the breath of God ice is given, and the broad waters are frozen fast. He loads the thick cloud with moisture; the clouds scatter his lightning. They turn round and round by his guidance, to accomplish all that he commands them on the face of the habitable world. Whether for correction, or for his land, or for love, he causes it to happen. (Job 36:32 to 37:13 NRS)
(Note that this passage also talks about a flat earth, "the corners of the earth".)
God Brings Evil
"But to the king of Judah who sent you to inquire of the LORD, thus you will say to him, 'Thus says the LORD God of Israel {regarding} the words which you have heard, "Because your heart was tender and you humbled yourself before God when you heard His words against this place and against its inhabitants, and {because} you humbled yourself before Me, tore your clothes and wept before Me, I truly have heard you," declares the LORD. "Behold, I will gather you to your fathers and you shall be gathered to your grave in peace, so your eyes will not see all the evil which I will bring on this place and on its inhabitants.'" And they brought back word to the king. (2 Chronicles 34:26-28 NAS)
Iron Chariots Defeat God
Then Judah joined with Simeon to fight against the Canaanites living in Zephath, and they completely destroyed the town. So the town was named Hormah. In addition, Judah captured the cities of Gaza, Ashkelon, and Ekron, along with their surrounding territories. The LORD was with the people of Judah, and they took possession of the hill country. But they failed to drive out the people living in the plains because the people there had iron chariots. The city of Hebron was given to Caleb as Moses had promised. And Caleb drove out the people living there, who were descendants of the three sons of Anak. (Judges 1:17-20 NLT)
Teach Boys to Murder
"They were my brothers!" Gideon exclaimed. "As surely as the LORD lives, I wouldn't kill you if you hadn't killed them." Turning to Jether, his oldest son, he said, "Kill them!" But Jether did not draw his sword, for he was only a boy and was afraid. Then Zebah and Zalmunna said to Gideon, "Don't ask a boy to do a man's job! Do it yourself!" So Gideon killed them both and took the royal ornaments from the necks of their camels. (Judges 8:19-21 NLT)
Punish Illegitimate Children
So it is with a woman who leaves her husband and presents him with an heir by another man. For first of all, she has disobeyed the law of the Most High; second, she has committed an offense against her husband; and third, through her fornication she has committed adultery and brought forth children by another man. She herself will be brought before the assembly, and her punishment will extend to her children. Her children will not take root, and her branches will not bear fruit. (Sirach 23:22-25 NRSV)
Beat Your Children
Folly is close to the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him. (Proverbs 22:15 NAB)
Sex Slaves
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
No Mixed Marriages
But then the Jewish leaders came to me and said, "Many of the people of Israel, and even some of the priests and Levites, have not kept themselves separate from the other peoples living in the land. They have taken up the detestable practices of the Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians, and Amorites. For the men of Israel have married women from these people and have taken them as wives for their sons. So the holy race has become polluted by these mixed marriages. To make matters worse, the officials and leaders are some of the worst offenders." (Ezra 9:1-2 NLT)
Don’t Trim Your Beard
(The Lord Speaking) Do not clip your hair at the temples, nor trim the edges of your beard. (Leviticus 19:27 NAB)
Beating Slaves is OK
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Kill Your Neighbors
(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)
Sacrifice First Born Sons to God
You shall not delay the offering of your harvest and your press. You shall give me the first born of your sons. You must do the same for your oxen and your sheep. (Exodus 22:28-29 NAB)
God's Red Clothes
Why are your clothes so red, as if you have been treading out grapes? "I have trodden the winepress alone; no one was there to help me. In my anger I have trampled my enemies as if they were grapes. In my fury I have trampled my foes. It is their blood that has stained my clothes. For the time has come for me to avenge my people, to ransom them from their oppressors. I looked, but no one came to help my people. I was amazed and appalled at what I saw. So I executed vengeance alone; unaided, I passed down judgment. I crushed the nations in my anger and made them stagger and fall to the ground." (Isaiah 63:2-6 NLT)
Beat Fools and Arrogant People
Rods are prepared for the arrogant, and blows for the backs of fools. (Proverbs 19:29 NAB)
The Angel of Death
That night the angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning, there they were, all the corpses of the dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAB)
Do Not Marry
Are you free of a wife? Then do not look for a wife. If you marry, however, you do not sin, nor does an unmarried woman sin if she marries; but such people will experience affliction in their earthly life, and I would like to spare you that. (1 Corinthians 7:27-28 NAB)
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
If any man come to me, and not hate his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sister, yet, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple” (Luke 14:26)
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” (Matthew 23:9)
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven”-Matthew 5:18-19 RSV
A raped, unengaged virgin must marry her rapist and they can never divorce (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
A garment composed of wool and linen can’t be worn (Deuteronomy 22:11)
Bastards can’t enter the Lord’s congregation. (Deuteronomy 23:2)
Deuteronomy 24:16, “children shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers.”
Jesus said, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22)
Matthew 16:28: “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom”. Matthew 23:36, 24:34, Mark.9:1, 13:30, Luke 9:27, 21:32 & John 21:22
Mark 16:17-1 8 which says believers can drink “any deadly thing” and “it shall not hurt” them
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family. I ask you how can we love someone that we can not see or interact with? Love is an emotion pertaining to physical existence not to faithful ideologies, yet God threatens you with Death just because your love for your mother maybe stronger than your love for him. Matthew 10:34
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew 10:21
Jesus, whose clothes are dipped in blood, has a sharp sword sticking out of his mouth. Thus attired, he treads the winepress of the wrath of God. (The winepress is the actual press that humans shall be put into so that we may be ground up.) Revelations 19:13-15
Jesus explains that the reason he speaks in parables is so that no one will understand him, “lest . . . they . . . should understand . . . and should be converted, and I should heal them.” Matthew 13:10-15
Jesus explains why he speaks in parables to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12
Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he’ll give your a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, it’s called neglect, pure and simple. Matthew 19:29
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. Mark 4:25
Luke 12:47 Jesus okays beating slaves.
Isaiah 45:7. “I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and create evil. I the lord do all these things”
God allowed my ancestors Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. Thus, allowing us “to be like gods, and know the difference between good and evil”
Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.
Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.
Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.
Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.
Matthew 19:29 If you really loved Jesus then he insists that you abandon your wife and children for him. Only that way will he allow you to go to heaven. (That is if you meet his other hefty requirements, don’t slip through the loopholes, and ignore the contradictions.)
Genesis 19:8 Tells of a man named Lot who offers his daughters to a crowd of would be angel rapers. Later, Lot impregnates his own daughters after God kills his wife for simply looking back at the remains of her city.
Genesis 38:16-24 Tells a very interesting story of a man named Judah whom lived with his widowed daughter in law. His daughter in law was grieving and wearing the veils of mourning which Judah (a rather stupid man) mistook for the clothing of a prostitute. He ended up impregnating his daughter in law and she left the city. On a later date Judah sees the young woman again and demanded she be burned for being a prostitute (I like how only the woman is punished when THEY BOTH engaged in the sexual act). It wasn’t until Judah recognized the woman as his daughter in law and she was with his child, that he decided not to kill her. Basically, Judah can commit incest, use a prostitute (in his mistaken perception), and impregnate a MUCH younger woman, yet he thinks she is the one deserving of death.
More at www.evilbible.com
How do you read a book? By reading random 'useful' phrases only?
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Please stop ruining your lives searching for answers you'll never get. Just enjoy it while it lasts.
If there is god and jesus came back, he'll never stop throwing up at all this rubbish.
If there's no god, we'll only go around once and that's it.
Cheers!
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
How do you read a book? By reading random 'useful' phrases only?
I read a book from 1st page to last page. With logic of course. Anyway the pali suttas is longer than the bible. I'm a lover of correct wisdom and understanding, ethical systems and philosophies of life. I read a lot. Are you interested in making an informed choice now? If so I can give you a lot of websites to read.
How do you read the bloody bible? Ignoring some unacceptable teachings, and obeying some?
I dun think you want your children to obey this right? “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” (Matthew 23:9)
It is important to have a virtuous wife and teaches your children virtues, so they will succeed. And you have a happy family. This is the works of karma.
Do you know how the Devil of Heaven is like in Buddhism?
How did you read things? Reading everything? If yes, can you reply on every paragraph I made?
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Originally posted by Ex-Christian:
I read a book from 1st page to last page. With logic of course. Anyway the pali suttas is longer than the bible. I'm a lover of correct wisdom and understanding, ethical systems and philosophies of life. I read a lot. Are you interested in making an informed choice now? If so I can give you a lot of websites to read.
How do you read the bloody bible? Ignoring some unacceptable teachings, and obeying some?
I dun think you want your children to obey this right? “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” (Matthew 23:9)
It is important to have a virtuous wife and teaches your children virtues, so they will succeed. And you have a happy family. This is the works of karma.
Do you know how the Devil of Heaven is like in Buddhism?
How did you read things? Reading everything? If yes, can you reply on every paragraph I made?
i canbut i won't be botherd to.
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Originally posted by Ex-Christian:
No. :)
Just that its rare to be born as a human to get to know and learn the Dharma and go to a higher heaven.
I dun want to go to that lowly heaven and sing praises to God eternally.
By that I take it to mean you're not aiming for a samsaric plane but nirvana?
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Originally posted by youyayu: i can
but i won't be botherd to.
i can also answer you back with Buddhism's wisdom if you reply.
but i won't be botherd to.
You shouldn't post this at all, bro (Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are called the children of god). Buddhism is the most peaceful religion. Now that people found out that you know your faith will crumble with questions that you cannot answer.
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but im not a buddhist.
and by the way you give your account the name. u are clearly saying you hate christian
and yet you dare to say buddhism and claim peace? you yourself is creating a havoc.
i don't have the need to say anything to you. since you are all "knowledgeble" in your bible studies and theory.
you don't even know what you are saying. and i won't bother because anyone that see and believe is being ignorant.
don't ruin buddhism name if you really going to be one...
i was a buddhist one and i can surly tell you buddhist want peace. not a war.
don't preach what you can't do.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
By that I take it to mean you're not aiming for a samsaric plane but nirvana?
I hope to reach nirvana. :) Buddha taught many different ways of Buddhism to reach there. Different ways for different people.
http://www.tzuchi.org.sg/en/
http://www.ssabuddhist-c.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=109
http://www.buddhistfellowship.org/cms/index.php?/?/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,4/catid,6/func,view/id,29/=
http://www.metta.org.sg/childrenCare/Index_Help_PreSchool.html
http://ddys.pixnet.net/blog
http://www.kmspks.org/youth/index.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheDailyEnlightenment/
http://www.dharmagames.org/Buddhist%20Games/RealmsOfExistence/RealmsOfExistence_02_content.html
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Originally posted by youyayu:
but im not a buddhist.
and by the way you give your account the name. u are clearly saying you hate christian
and yet you dare to say buddhism and claim peace? you yourself is creating a havoc.
i don't have the need to say anything to you. since you are all "knowledgeble" in your bible studies and theory.
you don't even know what you are saying. and i won't bother because anyone that see and believe is being ignorant.
don't ruin buddhism name if you really going to be one...
i was a buddhist one and i can surly tell you buddhist want peace. not a war.
don't preach what you can't do.
Brother,
Buddha had nicely pointed out the wrong view on the God belief before. Buddha had also taught different ways of answering back with good intention.
Anyway don't be angry as it is a mental anguish!!! May you be well and happy always!!!
I already said this thread is for Christians who want to break away Christianity. Other Christians should not READ AT ALL, why post and start a "havoc" here. I'm trying to stop every "havoc" created here for Christians who want to break away Christianity. You created a "havoc" here and claim to be child of God.
i don't have the need to say anything to you. since you are already "knowledgeable" in your bible studies and theory and on other religions.
you don't even know what you are saying. and i won't bother because anyone that see and believe is being ignorant. Wow, Christian use the Buddhist term "ignorant", shouldn't you forget about Buddhism terms, or Buddhism is the way of correct teachings. You should said "Thou fool" like Jesus had repeatedly said. But Jesus said, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22)
Go tell Jesus "don't preach what you can't do".
You may believe Moses is the most humble person on earth because he told people that he is.
May you not judge and condemn, because if you hold on to Christian beliefs, you will be judged and condemn. This is a terrible feeling. I don't want you to have this kind of feeling. And I truly mean it.
See the logic?
May you be well and happy always!!!
If you like i would like to know a good reason to leave buddhism if you really know the dharma. So many people trying to leave different religions for different religions or no religion. :D Everyone think that their is correct, others are wrong. Some made informed choice, others not. I came here to provide informed choices.
I picked buddhism because it teaches how to meditate, how to control anger, ones' children on how to respect parents and it suits people with good-nature. I believe in "Ren Zi Chu, Xing Bun Shang". Everyone is born with an undefiled buddha-nature.
I come here with a good intention to save Christians who want to break away from Christianity while picking one that will teaches their children better moral guidence. Buddhism helped me, I want it to help them too.
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Originally posted by Dejomel:
I'm curious.Ever heard of Pascal's wager?
yea. and have u heard of the Atheist's wager? to me if u have to praise God to go to heaven, then Satan is better than God.
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Well God is not for everybody just that nowadays religion is mainstream.
Let's see Jacob had 12 sons how many knew God personally? One. That was Joseph.
God is not for everybody. It's said that many are called but few are chosen.
This may be hard to swallow but God is not for everybody to know. Sure anybody can put their faith in God but God Himself is not for everybody to know. -
Well well, let's just respect one and other's religion and all will end well .
Not difficult right?
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Btw why do you think breaking away from Christianity is almost impossible lol doesn't that tell something lol
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
Btw why do you think breaking away from Christianity is almost impossible lol doesn’t that tell something lol
hahahaha true,
nowadays people only think of getting better and good stuff from god, if they dont get it, they arent happy with the god and choose to leave >_>
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
yea. and have u heard of the Atheist's wager? to me if u have to praise God to go to heaven, then Satan is better than God.
Don't be so rude man.
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Originally posted by ƒlame:
Don't be so rude man.
i think this appy to the christians replying to the thread too
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Originally posted by youyayu:
but im not a buddhist.
and by the way you give your account the name. u are clearly saying you hate christian
and yet you dare to say buddhism and claim peace? you yourself is creating a havoc.
i don't have the need to say anything to you. since you are all "knowledgeble" in your bible studies and theory.
you don't even know what you are saying. and i won't bother because anyone that see and believe is being ignorant.
don't ruin buddhism name if you really going to be one...
i was a buddhist one and i can surly tell you buddhist want peace. not a war.
don't preach what you can't do.
ur typing pattern = peace?
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Originally posted by Ex-Christian:
Only if you read up on other religions then you can make an informed choice.
My point is having an informed choice.
I made my choice wisely long time ago.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200608/mastering-your-own-mind
http://dharmafarer.googlepages.com/home
http://www.dharmagames.org/Buddhist%20Games/RealmsOfExistence/RealmsOfExistence_02_content.html
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.In a earlier thread, I actually asked if Christian here knows the history of the Bible.
None can give me a clear answer, and one staunch Christian admitted that most fellow Christian didn't bother to find out.
I am an atheist, I went to find out the history and truth of many religions, including Christianity.
I hope they will take my heed and go find out about their faith's origin and history.
I hope they can make a critical judgement and see truth for themselves.
Yours sincerely,
laffin
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Originally posted by laffin123:
In a earlier thread, I actually asked if Christian here knows the history of the Bible.
None can give me a clear answer, and one staunch Christian admitted that most fellow Christian didn't bother to find out.
I am an atheist, I went to find out the history and truth of many religions, including Christianity.
I hope they will take my heed and go find out about their faith's origin and history.
I hope they can make a critical judgement and see truth for themselves.
Yours sincerely,
laffin
dats very true, most youngsters here do not know anything about where the bible came from..but its the youngsters, i do hope you try asking a christian who actually has been a christian for a long time.
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Originally posted by »¤ Liquified ¤« ...:
dats very true, most youngsters here do not know anything about where the bible came from..but its the youngsters, i do hope you try asking a christian who actually has been a christian for a long time.
He needs a bible scholar try asking them. Most good Christian only read the bible without knowing the detail of its history.
What I know is the current bible evolves from the nicea council then under byzantium empire who ordered that the ancient records of scriptures be put together. Then they decided which part to be included and which will not -
Originally posted by Ex-Christian:
Brother,
Buddha had nicely pointed out the wrong view on the God belief before. Buddha had also taught different ways of answering back with good intention.
Anyway don't be angry as it is a mental anguish!!! May you be well and happy always!!!
I already said this thread is for Christians who want to break away Christianity. Other Christians should not READ AT ALL, why post and start a "havoc" here. I'm trying to stop every "havoc" created here for Christians who want to break away Christianity. You created a "havoc" here and claim to be child of God.
i don't have the need to say anything to you. since you are already "knowledgeable" in your bible studies and theory and on other religions.
you don't even know what you are saying. and i won't bother because anyone that see and believe is being ignorant. Wow, Christian use the Buddhist term "ignorant", shouldn't you forget about Buddhism terms, or Buddhism is the way of correct teachings. You should said "Thou fool" like Jesus had repeatedly said. But Jesus said, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22)
Go tell Jesus "don't preach what you can't do".
You may believe Moses is the most humble person on earth because he told people that he is.
May you not judge and condemn, because if you hold on to Christian beliefs, you will be judged and condemn. This is a terrible feeling. I don't want you to have this kind of feeling. And I truly mean it.
See the logic?
May you be well and happy always!!!
If you like i would like to know a good reason to leave buddhism if you really know the dharma. So many people trying to leave different religions for different religions or no religion. :D Everyone think that their is correct, others are wrong. Some made informed choice, others not. I came here to provide informed choices.
I picked buddhism because it teaches how to meditate, how to control anger, ones' children on how to respect parents and it suits people with good-nature. I believe in "Ren Zi Chu, Xing Bun Shang". Everyone is born with an undefiled buddha-nature.
I come here with a good intention to save Christians who want to break away from Christianity while picking one that will teaches their children better moral guidence. Buddhism helped me, I want it to help them too.
k. may you and your new found religon guide you the the path of the light if thats what ya believe.
i can only say that those christian believe in what ever you say and break away from christianity. "Little Faith you have."