What happen to the Soul when a Person is Death
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"DESP : can tell u y but u r not going to like the reason...true, once become christian may as well die straightaway rite? the reason y we dun go straight to heaven after we die is cos we are needed to remain on earth to reach out to those who are still unbelievers...so the aim is to bring as many ppl wif u to heaven...this is the part in christianity when we accumulate merits although accumulating merits dun bring us to heaven."
Tell me this.
If a non christian has a kind and good heart, help pple, give lots of donation and do good deeds, never curse pple, never scold pple, help to built roads and hospitals and building, he go to hell?
And I am sure those non christian would like you and your church members not to distrub them about their life.
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not true...i have met non-christians who were truly seeking and were grateful that they found Christ...i was one of them...so u cun say for all cases...maybe onli for some, like you(likeyou)...
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
if god is all merciful and is not discriminatory and compassionate, why not all go to heaven? here lies the paradox. since you claimed that god is the creator of all things, we are considered his offsprings isnt it, why some are born rich and poor some disabled, some intelligent, some stupid etc. the list goes on.
by the word, your reply to my question is it god's reply or your reply? if its your reply, then whats god reply on this issue? surely you cannot speak for god can you?
Final Judgement.. ALL will be judged... even those in hell will brought up to be judged altogether. Believers and non-believers alike.
And for his offsprings. We were created IN HIS IMAGE.
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"DESP : not true...i have met non-christians who were truly seeking and were grateful that they found Christ...i was one of them...so u cun say for all cases...maybe onli for some, like you(likeyou)...:
So, u mean non christ also will go heaven if he/she is good hearted and kind by nature? It really depends whether you are faithed to be with him or not.
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no...read carefully...i didnt say tat non-christians will make it if they are truly kind-hearted etc...i said tat there are non-christians who were truly seeking for spirituality and were grateful when they found christ(means became christians)...i was one such case...
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
Final Judgement.. ALL will be judged... even those in hell will brought up to be judged altogether. Believers and non-believers alike.
And for his offsprings. We were created IN HIS IMAGE.
We are not created in god's image as god has no image. -
apple-orange argument again cos the christian perspective(flawed as it may seem to atheists) of image is diff from the atheists perspective(flawed it may seem to creationists)...
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
We are not created in god's image as god has no image.His image.. discount the literal meaning please.
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"no...read carefully...i didnt say tat non-christians will make it if they are truly kind-hearted etc...i said tat there are non-christians who were truly seeking for spirituality and were grateful when they found christ(means became christians)...i was one such case..."
Seem like u cannot judge yourself whether a person is good or bad. Rather than the person is chris or non chris.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
"no...read carefully...i didnt say tat non-christians will make it if they are truly kind-hearted etc...i said tat there are non-christians who were truly seeking for spirituality and were grateful when they found christ(means became christians)...i was one such case..."
Seem like u cannot judge yourself whether a person is good or bad. Rather than the person is chris or non chris.
wait till u kena suck by ur church until super dry $$
then u will regret...
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"NOA : wait till u kena suck by ur church until super dry $$
then u will regret..."
I heard that your monthly salary deduct 10% to the church? For helping the poor? Why must 10%? Cant it be as you wish to donate whatever you want? Why 10%?
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Originally posted by likeyou:
"NOA : wait till u kena suck by ur church until super dry $$
then u will regret..."
I heard that your monthly salary deduct 10% to the church? For helping the poor? Why must 10%? Cant it be as you wish to donate whatever you want? Why 10%?
well said
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to likeyou:
the topic on doing gd to go heaven has been addressed a few yrs back in one of my threads in Deeper Truths forum. you should be able to find it on the 1st page of that forum if you are really interested. the title of the thread is: Can conscience be trusted?(sth like tat)
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What so good about christian?
Where they forbid you to hold joss stick to pay respect to your parents?
To name one.
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You can donate whatever amount u want. BUT the bible stated 10% for those that are able. Its only logical to maintain the church, pastor and its charitable directions.
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DESP
There is 10 man, all died, all do good deeds and kind hearted.
Who will go to heaven?
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Hi BADZ
Thks for your input. I heard friends that has been asking why donate your salary to the church? That is why I bring this up. Anything wrong?
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Hi BADZ
Thks for your input. I heard friends that has been asking why donate your salary to the church? That is why I bring this up. Anything wrong?
Nothing wrong. Let me edit the message. Because many people just shoot off. And i was actually referring to all , but maybe u think i was directing it specifically at you.
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BADZ....I have lots of questions pertaining to christian way of life. That is why I post I was wanted to ask.
I have christians friends esp phil and friends from indo, they never talk about their Chris except the locals, the way they do things that really ... I cannot stand.
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
Final Judgement.. ALL will be judged... even those in hell will brought up to be judged altogether. Believers and non-believers alike.
And for his offsprings. We were created IN HIS IMAGE.
is this your explanations or god's explanations?
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
His image.. discount the literal meaning please.
who has seen his image? any proof of his image?
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Originally posted by likeyou:
BADZ....I have lots of questions pertaining to christian way of life. That is why I post I was wanted to ask.
I have christians friends esp phil and friends from indo, they never talk about their Chris except the locals, the way they do things that really ... I cannot stand.
Thats why once u are willing to know enough u will understand. Its how i understand the buddhist tradition and other religion and cultures. But bare in mind that there are always liberal and conservative views.
Like Islam for instance, Jihad for a liberal muslim doesnt mean blowing urself up, together with innocent muslims and non-believers but for the conservatists... yes.
The Bible has written about the evolution of God and the way he treats his people, And same, for us, we must evolve with our ways. Sticking the the main principle but allowing it adapt accordingly and continue to interpret accordinly. Thats why u notice the Bible never says stuff like.. DONT PLAY COMPUTERS. But it did have interpretations of addiction to pleasure and idoltry, given that its written before the time of computers.
Because the ways of Evil.. evolves too.. as seen in the bible. So its natural that we must be aware of these evolution. Because we are all living beings. We dont stay stagnant. And being the Almighty knowing all.. he knows.. how its going to end, but gives us the free will. If he compels you, his gift of free will to us is pointless. We might as well be drones to do his biddings. Automatons.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
is this your explanations or god's explanations?
It is written in the bible.
And as for the image.. like i said.. its not literal. It may be having 2 eyes and feet and hands and limbs, or , possesing intelligence, free will, compassion, love , hate and anger, and/or both.
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
It is written in the bible.
And as for the image.. like i said.. its not literal. It may be having 2 eyes and feet and hands and limbs, or , possesing intelligence, free will, compassion, love , hate and anger, and/or both.
bible is written by men, unless you can tell me its god's handwriting.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
bible is written by men, unless you can tell me its god's handwriting.
No. God did not write it by His own hand, God is the author of the Bible, but he used men to write the bible.
So is the next question going to be.. if men wrote it.. it must subject to falsity ?