Where you come from, in the end you will return where you come from. You come from pure land, you return to pure land.
You come from heaven, you return to heaven.
When pple die, you try convert them...cannot, he/she will return where he/she come from.
BUt when my grandma died my uncles saw and felt her spirit came back to the house on the seventh day.. and there was a hand imprint on the rice bucket.. they say spirits do that to check that the rice bucket is full and my uncle say my grandma was cleaning th e house washing dishes, doing laundry...
=/ so christians dun believe that on the seventh day after they die their spirits come back??
and what about those people who are murdered but christians.. do their soul get trapped on earth?? that's why they are called ghost? dun they go to heaven ???
and i read a book from the pastor of New Creation CHurch.... they say no matter what sins u have done jesus already died for all yr sins even your future sins...
I just feel confused... then why are their so many ghosts... or spirits on earth???? and I heard that people who commit suicide redo the same suicide act until i dunno when..
and what is judgement day???
i am a buddhist by the way not because I read scriptures or anything because my parents were buddhist but i have never condone christianity because it may be true as well.. i am still searching for the answer...
but i got one sad thing to say.. is there are a lot of fake christians out there just like there are a lot of buddhist who dun know the real meaning behind their religion.. why i say fake christians because there are a lot of them who go to church just for their own selfish reason.. like to socialise and spread their business.. and get money...
Sorry to say this.. my dad was a taxi driver and he claimed he once heard a conversation between a pastor and a christian or maybe both of them were pastors.. about how to increase the tith money so they could earn more money out of them.. and they didnt say like oh to do good for the church but the money was going to their own pockets kind of conversation..
I think it is this type of fake christians.. who bring the belief in jesus down...
Originally posted by LingLing aKa LoVeAnGeL:BUt when my grandma died my uncles saw and felt her spirit came back to the house on the seventh day.. and there was a hand imprint on the rice bucket.. they say spirits do that to check that the rice bucket is full and my uncle say my grandma was cleaning th e house washing dishes, doing laundry...
=/ so christians dun believe that on the seventh day after they die their spirits come back??
and what about those people who are murdered but christians.. do their soul get trapped on earth?? that's why they are called ghost? dun they go to heaven ???
and i read a book from the pastor of New Creation CHurch.... they say no matter what sins u have done jesus already died for all yr sins even your future sins...
I just feel confused... then why are their so many ghosts... or spirits on earth???? and I heard that people who commit suicide redo the same suicide act until i dunno when..
and what is judgement day???
i am a buddhist by the way not because I read scriptures or anything because my parents were buddhist but i have never condone christianity because it may be true as well.. i am still searching for the answer...
but i got one sad thing to say.. is there are a lot of fake christians out there just like there are a lot of buddhist who dun know the real meaning behind their religion.. why i say fake christians because there are a lot of them who go to church just for their own selfish reason.. like to socialise and spread their business.. and get money...
Sorry to say this.. my dad was a taxi driver and he claimed he once heard a conversation between a pastor and a christian or maybe both of them were pastors.. about how to increase the tith money so they could earn more money out of them.. and they didnt say like oh to do good for the church but the money was going to their own pockets kind of conversation..
I think it is this type of fake christians.. who bring the belief in jesus down...
this shows that there are not just heaven and hell, there is a spirit world which only buddhism has the answer, you need not search the answer elsewhere, buddhism explains in detail regarding the spirit world. i am reading both christianity and buddhism now.
Originally posted by LingLing aKa LoVeAnGeL:BUt when my grandma died my uncles saw and felt her spirit came back to the house on the seventh day.. and there was a hand imprint on the rice bucket.. they say spirits do that to check that the rice bucket is full and my uncle say my grandma was cleaning th e house washing dishes, doing laundry...
=/ so christians dun believe that on the seventh day after they die their spirits come back??
and what about those people who are murdered but christians.. do their soul get trapped on earth?? that's why they are called ghost? dun they go to heaven ???
and i read a book from the pastor of New Creation CHurch.... they say no matter what sins u have done jesus already died for all yr sins even your future sins...
I just feel confused... then why are their so many ghosts... or spirits on earth???? and I heard that people who commit suicide redo the same suicide act until i dunno when..
and what is judgement day???
i am a buddhist by the way not because I read scriptures or anything because my parents were buddhist but i have never condone christianity because it may be true as well.. i am still searching for the answer...
but i got one sad thing to say.. is there are a lot of fake christians out there just like there are a lot of buddhist who dun know the real meaning behind their religion.. why i say fake christians because there are a lot of them who go to church just for their own selfish reason.. like to socialise and spread their business.. and get money...
Sorry to say this.. my dad was a taxi driver and he claimed he once heard a conversation between a pastor and a christian or maybe both of them were pastors.. about how to increase the tith money so they could earn more money out of them.. and they didnt say like oh to do good for the church but the money was going to their own pockets kind of conversation..
I think it is this type of fake christians.. who bring the belief in jesus down...
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
The bible actually teaches that the soul of the dead would descend to the world of the dead. There the dead would cease living. The dead would no longer be aware of anything, not able to remember God and can't register the passage of time. It's also called a place of rest and a temporal place to wait before judgment. Judgment day is the day when all the dead are raised from the world of the dead to be judged according what they did. It will happen at the end of days. I wouldn't say there's sooo many ghost out there and you need to differentiate between dead person ghost and demons. According to the old testament when a person died he could still live as long as his spirit hasn't gone to the world of the dead...so implying that dead people spirit may not descend to the world of the dead immediately. How many people have dead since say 2000 years ago? Immeasurable numbers but how many ghosts there are? Not even close to that staggering numbers of people who have died. Obviously the majority don't spend the time wondering on earth as ghosts. As for fake Christians as any other religion there are always people who are abusing it for their own advantage. Christianity is about having a personal relationship with Christ. It began that way and it stays that way.
do you abuse it when u start imagining olazhongs??
Originally posted by LingLing aKa LoVeAnGeL:BUt when my grandma died my uncles saw and felt her spirit came back to the house on the seventh day.. and there was a hand imprint on the rice bucket.. they say spirits do that to check that the rice bucket is full and my uncle say my grandma was cleaning th e house washing dishes, doing laundry...
=/ so christians dun believe that on the seventh day after they die their spirits come back??
and what about those people who are murdered but christians.. do their soul get trapped on earth?? that's why they are called ghost? dun they go to heaven ???
and i read a book from the pastor of New Creation CHurch.... they say no matter what sins u have done jesus already died for all yr sins even your future sins...
I just feel confused... then why are their so many ghosts... or spirits on earth???? and I heard that people who commit suicide redo the same suicide act until i dunno when..
and what is judgement day???
i am a buddhist by the way not because I read scriptures or anything because my parents were buddhist but i have never condone christianity because it may be true as well.. i am still searching for the answer...
but i got one sad thing to say.. is there are a lot of fake christians out there just like there are a lot of buddhist who dun know the real meaning behind their religion.. why i say fake christians because there are a lot of them who go to church just for their own selfish reason.. like to socialise and spread their business.. and get money...
Sorry to say this.. my dad was a taxi driver and he claimed he once heard a conversation between a pastor and a christian or maybe both of them were pastors.. about how to increase the tith money so they could earn more money out of them.. and they didnt say like oh to do good for the church but the money was going to their own pockets kind of conversation..
I think it is this type of fake christians.. who bring the belief in jesus down...
I agreed with you.
One thing I want to say is: It is all up to one's mind and action. The 5 precepts. Control your mind and thoughts.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
The bible actually teaches that the soul of the dead would descend to the world of the dead. There the dead would cease living. The dead would no longer be aware of anything, not able to remember God and can't register the passage of time. It's also called a place of rest and a temporal place to wait before judgment. Judgment day is the day when all the dead are raised from the world of the dead to be judged according what they did. It will happen at the end of days. I wouldn't say there's sooo many ghost out there and you need to differentiate between dead person ghost and demons. According to the old testament when a person died he could still live as long as his spirit hasn't gone to the world of the dead...so implying that dead people spirit may not descend to the world of the dead immediately. How many people have dead since say 2000 years ago? Immeasurable numbers but how many ghosts there are? Not even close to that staggering numbers of people who have died. Obviously the majority don't spend the time wondering on earth as ghosts. As for fake Christians as any other religion there are always people who are abusing it for their own advantage. Christianity is about having a personal relationship with Christ. It began that way and it stays that way.
why must we wait so long for the judgement day. why can't the judgement day happened during the 1st or 2nd generation of adam and eve and must wait until now when there are billions of people in this world?
I understand that other religion said there are not so many ghosts because some were reborn in other paths, make sense to me.
ok lor, since tat make sense to u then u follow those religions...we follow christianity cos it makes sense to us...we dun have to discuss further...
Originally posted by despondent:ok lor, since tat make sense to u then u follow those religions...we follow christianity cos it makes sense to us...we dun have to discuss further...
can you help to answer the part 1 question, why must we wait so long for judgement day, why can't it happen earlier when there are fewer humans, easier to judge isn't it?
do i have the right to choose not to answer since i noe after i answer, u are going to disagree wif me or dun get it again?
however, if u insist on getting my answer, i will answer u...but take note of wad i mentioned above...b4 i give u an answer, i alredi noe in advance tat u wun agree wif my answer cos u have approached christianity as if it was the same as all other religions...if u have a preconceived mindset like tat abt christianity, u will find it very difficult to understand/agree wif the fundamental teachings...
Originally posted by despondent:do i have the right to choose not to answer since i noe after i answer, u are going to disagree wif me or dun get it again?
however, if u insist on getting my answer, i will answer u...but take note of wad i mentioned above...b4 i give u an answer, i alredi noe in advance tat u wun agree wif my answer cos u have approached christianity as if it was the same as all other religions...if u have a preconceived mindset like tat abt christianity, u will find it very difficult to understand/agree wif the fundamental teachings...
ok i agree that i will not debate over your answer. i wish to know. thanks in advance for telling me.
can i pm(private message) u?
Originally posted by despondent:can i pm(private message) u?
hmm, i guess there are others who wish to know too. guys, please listen to despondent, no trolling and no debate over her answer please.
tats a nice gesture...thanks...but sadly, many here wun listen to u...plus not many are like u, truly seeking...some are here to shoot down christianity...
Originally posted by despondent:tats a nice gesture...thanks...but sadly, many here wun listen to u...plus not many are like u, truly seeking...some are here to shoot down christianity...
quite true. never mind. i believe some day i will know the answer. sorry, not comfortable with pm.
You either go heaven or hell. Those spirit who came back, they are not human spirits. They are demons trying to pretend to be your relative to find places to eat and live. They roam around like devouring lions, trying to devour those who invite them in. So don't entertain them else they enter into your body and you get demon-possessed.
eh longjiangpass...dun be too hard on ur answers...of cuz as christian, i noe where u coming from...but they wun see it cos u have to start from the basics...frankly, i dun advise u do tat here...
Covering up the truth don't do you any good, neither will it do the receiver any good. It's either you believe or not. Don't believe fine. I'm not here to argue, just the straight truth. Just like the Gospel, people either accept or not. If don't accept so be it. I'm not deceiving them to buy anything from me.
i am not covering the truth...its juz tat i dun wanna waste time posting when ppl are not open...well, u are new here...u will noe once u have been here long enuff...
to Fairyfairy86:
sorry to hear tat...i pray tat God will reveal the answers to ur qns...juz like how He has revealed answers to me as i walk the path of christianity...Shalom!!!
Judgement day is not for those who believe in Jesus. When Jesus comes, we will rise up to heaven, leaving the non believers on earth.
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:why must we wait so long for the judgement day. why can't the judgement day happened during the 1st or 2nd generation of adam and eve and must wait until now when there are billions of people in this world?
I understand that other religion said there are not so many ghosts because some were reborn in other paths, make sense to me.
God has to wait for Satan to be at the climax, at the top of the world, and when Satan goes to the top of the world, God will destroy him and put him into hell.
Originally posted by Larryteo:God has to wait for Satan to be at the climax, at the top of the world, and when Satan goes to the top of the world, God will destroy him and put him into hell.
its like going to cum but forced to stop
Originally posted by laurence82:its like going to cum but forced to stop
What cum???? White white water ah? o.o I want to drink