Why doesn't God forgive people once they went to hell
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Are the living dead having a soul?soul =/= spirit...soul are people(the physical body) + spirit(the invisible driving force)..just think of an electric fan thats is working normally as a soul..when i unplugged it..the electricity goes out and the fan stop turning..same as living things..hope it clears the confusion of souls and spirits..
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Are the living dead having a soul?living dead..haha..its the undead..sound the alarm...
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
bro...actually i agree mostly with you..read the bible and faith..but as for mysterious ways..i dont think so..he always tell people what he is goin to do..just that humans dont understand..sad to say..even religious leaders are not interested to know the true word of God..mystifying it to control masses...TS started the thread as i believe she wants a last shot at knowing God..she must have bad exp to distrust in God..
It's like sometimes we will never understand wat our fathers are doing...but keeping faith in them for watever things they do is for the good of ourselves.
And we do fall out with our fathers sometimes dun we? but we still love them at the end of the day :)
"Well met my son...it's been a long time..."
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
interesting pic..but how true is it??or just photoshop??by right as according to the bible..such remains cannot be found liao..
Dunno how true the photos are though...
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
It's like sometimes we will never understand wat our fathers are doing...but keeping faith in them for watever things they do is for the good of ourselves.
And we do fall out with our fathers sometimes dun we? but we still love them at the end of the day :)
"Well met my son...it's been a long time..."
i guess the best example of father son r/s is not from dracula and alucard..haha..but rather God and Jesus or rather the prehuman Jesus and the restored Jesus..
everyone thinks that Jehovah/Yahweh is too mysterious and too profound to be understood by mere imperfect humans..by right this is true..but out of his undeserved loving kindness..he let himself be bounded by rules he set for himself..his very own qualities..it was also all these loving qualities that Jesus learnt from him thats why they are so close..thats why Jesus know how loving Jehovah/Yahweh is and love him back so much..
so much that Jesus will never be able to fall out with his dad unlike us..
i was hoping we do not see each other again.i cant allow you to leave this castle father..
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Originally posted by caleb_chiang:
Dunno how true the photos are though...
nice pics..looks real enough..hmm..the flood wiped out all life outside the ark..can it really be the remains of nephilims??giants who are the famous men of old..sounds like people like zeus,heracles, odin and the rest of the old gods..
notice the 3rd last pic is bigger than an excavator....
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
i guess the best example of father son r/s is not from dracula and alucard..haha..but rather God and Jesus or rather the prehuman Jesus and the restored Jesus..
everyone thinks that Jehovah/Yahweh is too mysterious and too profound to be understood by mere imperfect humans..by right this is true..but out of his undeserved loving kindness..he let himself be bounded by rules he set for himself..his very own qualities..it was also all these loving qualities that Jesus learnt from him thats why they are so close..thats why Jesus know how loving Jehovah/Yahweh is and love him back so much..
so much that Jesus will never be able to fall out with his dad unlike us..
i was hoping we do not see each other again.i cant allow you to leave this castle father..
Good explanation of Yahweh bro :) a perfect creator & leader by example. we are too sinful to even see angels, let alone Him. Even angels do not hav direct access to Yahweh. A minimum rank of arch angel is required if im not mistaken.
But a pity bro brey doesn't perceive Jesus the way u do. he thinks all christians are misguided by the church & we r worshipping an idol. but he doesn't realise dat there r still many who seek answers directly from the bible. i can imagine he was twisted badly by many individuals who proclaimed they r true christians but r not. thus he lost his faith in the church.
you have ever been the ally of humans...have u forgotten what they did to bro brey? hehe...
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
Good explanation of Yahweh bro :) a perfect creator & leader by example. we are too sinful to even see angels, let alone Him. Even angels do not hav direct access to Yahweh. A minimum rank of arch angel is required if im not mistaken.
But a pity bro brey doesn't perceive Jesus the way u do. he thinks all christians are misguided by the church & we r worshipping an idol. but he doesn't realise dat there r still many who seek answers directly from the bible. i can imagine he was twisted badly by many individuals who proclaimed they r true christians but r not. thus he lost his faith in the church.
you have ever been the ally of humans...have u forgotten what they did to bro brey? hehe...
hmm..thanks ya..i wouldnt really think that we cant see angels cuz we are too sinful..but rather we are not made to see spirits unless they manifest themselves to us..recounting the many incidents in the bible where men saw both angels and demons..so i guess we can see them if they choose to show us..however...Jehovah/Yahweh is totally different level..just like being near the glory of the sun is enough to kill us..even when moses saw the back of God requires an angel to be like a shield for him..hmm..maybe..just maybe when humans are restored to perfection after the 1000 years reign of christ will humans be able to see God again..and i do believe if im not wrong that all angels..even satan and gang had direct access to God..and no min requirement..otherwise it would be kinda unfair isnt it??? (im a low rank angel so i cant see God??sheesh..why bother creating me then..you get my drift right...)
hmm..actually i do agree with bro brey that the church(not restricted to the rcc) have been misguided themselves and misguided others in the worship of the true living God.seeing the idol of christ on a cross in a church and having congregation of people performing acts of worship in front of it really looks way too similar to si beh lor guan yin temple...we just need the joss sticks and urn to complete it..i guess bro brey had seen some form of the truth about the bible..a comprehensive version of jew i would call it..but even so..jews are no longer privillaged too..it is now the spiritual Israel that will be saved...
think you i would forget such a thing..no..but neither do i seek revenge against them..haha
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
hmm..thanks ya..i wouldnt really think that we cant see angels cuz we are too sinful..but rather we are not made to see spirits unless they manifest themselves to us..recounting the many incidents in the bible where men saw both angels and demons..so i guess we can see them if they choose to show us..however...Jehovah/Yahweh is totally different level..just like being near the glory of the sun is enough to kill us..even when moses saw the back of God requires an angel to be like a shield for him..hmm..maybe..just maybe when humans are restored to perfection after the 1000 years reign of christ will humans be able to see God again..and i do believe if im not wrong that all angels..even satan and gang had direct access to God..and no min requirement..otherwise it would be kinda unfair isnt it??? (im a low rank angel so i cant see God??sheesh..why bother creating me then..you get my drift right...)
hmm..actually i do agree with bro brey that the church(not restricted to the rcc) have been misguided themselves and misguided others in the worship of the true living God.seeing the idol of christ on a cross in a church and having congregation of people performing acts of worship in front of it really looks way too similar to si beh lor guan yin temple...we just need the joss sticks and urn to complete it..i guess bro brey had seen some form of the truth about the bible..a comprehensive version of jew i would call it..but even so..jews are no longer privillaged too..it is now the spiritual Israel that will be saved...
think you i would forget such a thing..no..but neither do i seek revenge against them..haha
About crucifixes in Catholic churches - when people keep a picture of their loved ones in their wallets, do they love the ink and paper of the picture or the person that the picture shows? And if they kneel to read a prayer from a prayer book, are they worshipping the prayer book or just using it as a prayer aid?
The crucifix is a timeless reminder of the single greatest thing that Jesus did for all of us out of love. The cement or wood in the crucifix itself can't help us, but such stark visual imagery often draws Christians into a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, now abiding in heaven (and on earth) in all glory and majesty.
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
hmm..thanks ya..i wouldnt really think that we cant see angels cuz we are too sinful..but rather we are not made to see spirits unless they manifest themselves to us..recounting the many incidents in the bible where men saw both angels and demons..so i guess we can see them if they choose to show us..however...Jehovah/Yahweh is totally different level..just like being near the glory of the sun is enough to kill us..even when moses saw the back of God requires an angel to be like a shield for him..hmm..maybe..just maybe when humans are restored to perfection after the 1000 years reign of christ will humans be able to see God again..and i do believe if im not wrong that all angels..even satan and gang had direct access to God..and no min requirement..otherwise it would be kinda unfair isnt it??? (im a low rank angel so i cant see God??sheesh..why bother creating me then..you get my drift right...)
hmm..actually i do agree with bro brey that the church(not restricted to the rcc) have been misguided themselves and misguided others in the worship of the true living God.seeing the idol of christ on a cross in a church and having congregation of people performing acts of worship in front of it really looks way too similar to si beh lor guan yin temple...we just need the joss sticks and urn to complete it..i guess bro brey had seen some form of the truth about the bible..a comprehensive version of jew i would call it..but even so..jews are no longer privillaged too..it is now the spiritual Israel that will be saved...
think you i would forget such a thing..no..but neither do i seek revenge against them..haha
so i guess its not up to us to see God but who He choses to be made seen :)
i dun deny one bit dat many churches in the world are misguided into improper worshipping by men who claims to be messengers of God. but then...there are still many who believes in the bible & if this one particular church teaches wat is in the bible...then shouldn't this church be teaching the truth? the bible mentions the Son of Yahweh is Jesus/Yeshua...but brey doesn't believe in Jesus Christ! is Jesus Christ an idol created by the church as wat brey believed bro?
"still uttering the same nonsense...now it's time to put aside your weak human side & join me in remaking this world!"
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Originally posted by Servant:
About crucifixes in Catholic churches - when people keep a picture of their loved ones in their wallets, do they love the ink and paper of the picture or the person that the picture shows? And if they kneel to read a prayer from a prayer book, are they worshipping the prayer book or just using it as a prayer aid?
The crucifix is a timeless reminder of the single greatest thing that Jesus did for all of us out of love. The cement or wood in the crucifix itself can't help us, but such stark visual imagery often draws Christians into a closer relationship with Jesus Christ, now abiding in heaven (and on earth) in all glory and majesty.
the crucifix is used too in ancient paganistic egyptians and other cultures..co incidence huh..likewise when people kneel in front of a statue say guan yu or wukong..they are praying to the "deities" the statue represents..just another prayer aid i guess..worship God in spirit for God is a spirit..never was any prayer aid being mentioned as a tool to worship God..so again i bring up this point..if JC died by electric chair...do christians nowadays wear a symbol of the electric chair??and to keep using the thing that killed and shamed him as a rememberance...i can only see how pleased JC will be...
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
so i guess its not up to us to see God but who He choses to be made seen :)
i dun deny one bit dat many churches in the world are misguided into improper worshipping by men who claims to be messengers of God. but then...there are still many who believes in the bible & if this one particular church teaches wat is in the bible...then shouldn't this church be teaching the truth? the bible mentions the Son of Yahweh is Jesus/Yeshua...but brey doesn't believe in Jesus Christ! is Jesus Christ an idol created by the church as wat brey believed bro?
"still uttering the same nonsense...now it's time to put aside your weak human side & join me in remaking this world!"
i agree with what you said..IF there is a congregation that teaches people as according to the bible..so far i dont see any...and sorry if i offend you bro..IMO..RCC is definitely not the church that teaches people the way of God..right secular values like dont commit crimes and murder, im sure RCC did a good job at it..but cant say for the gay priests =p ...but with that, almost all other religions does the same..religions for people was that it should teach good values..but for higher level..it must be the true way of God..so that when one believes in it..praises God..
i can only guess what bro brey believes in about Jesus..many jews doesnt accept Jesus as being the messiah..but i though i saw brey saying he does..so that makes him an updated jew..in order to draw closer to Jehovah/Yahweh...Jesus is the only way..none other..not even mary..Jesus is the only intercessor...
think we covered almost every conversations and lines in SotN liao..except the endings...
so you made it...
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
i agree with what you said..IF there is a congregation that teaches people as according to the bible..so far i dont see any...and sorry if i offend you bro..IMO..RCC is definitely not the church that teaches people the way of God..right secular values like dont commit crimes and murder, im sure RCC did a good job at it..but cant say for the gay priests =p ...but with that, almost all other religions does the same..religions for people was that it should teach good values..but for higher level..it must be the true way of God..so that when one believes in it..praises God..
i can only guess what bro brey believes in about Jesus..many jews doesnt accept Jesus as being the messiah..but i though i saw brey saying he does..so that makes him an updated jew..in order to draw closer to Jehovah/Yahweh...Jesus is the only way..none other..not even mary..Jesus is the only intercessor...
think we covered almost every conversations and lines in SotN liao..except the endings...
so you made it...
even if im rc i dun blame u for ur opinion bro...for which church or religion doesn't have bad eggs & those who turned up jus for the sake of it? but i keep faith in the good people of the church & those who proclaim the truth :) ...for it was Jesus' command: Love one another as i have loved you.
well...in one thread, brey clearly told me he doesn't believe in the name Jesus Christ as he claims the name is jus an idol created by the church. He only believes His hebrew name which is Yeshua. but i perceive both names to be the same person :)
maybe we should move on to the next CV game? haha.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
even if im rc i dun blame u for ur opinion bro...for which church or religion doesn't have bad eggs & those who turned up jus for the sake of it? but i keep faith in the good people of the church & those who proclaim the truth :) ...for it was Jesus' command: Love one another as i have loved you.
well...in one thread, brey clearly told me he doesn't believe in the name Jesus Christ as he claims the name is jus an idol created by the church. He only believes His hebrew name which is Yeshua. but i perceive both names to be the same person :)
maybe we should move on to the next CV game? haha.
Like I said, the jesus that the church preaches is no way similar to Yeshua whom the bible talks about. I don't recognise the jc that is preached by the church when compared back to the Brit Chadashah. They are in essence two very different people.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
even if im rc i dun blame u for ur opinion bro...for which church or religion doesn't have bad eggs & those who turned up jus for the sake of it? but i keep faith in the good people of the church & those who proclaim the truth :) ...for it was Jesus' command: Love one another as i have loved you.
well...in one thread, brey clearly told me he doesn't believe in the name Jesus Christ as he claims the name is jus an idol created by the church. He only believes His hebrew name which is Yeshua. but i perceive both names to be the same person :)
maybe we should move on to the next CV game? haha.
bro..i jus posted an explaination of how maybe Jesus/Yeshua is being perceived by bro brey in another post...u might be interested to look see..
another cv game..hmm...nv really memorized any other of the dialogues of others..but i like rondo of blood...damn hard game..atm..enjoying myself with WoW...
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
Like I said, the jesus that the church preaches is no way similar to Yeshua whom the bible talks about. I don't recognise the jc that is preached by the church when compared back to the Brit Chadashah. They are in essence two very different people.
How is Jesus any different in the bible for all the things He did.....Yeshua did! i seriously cannot comprehend how u can separate the two...faintz!
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
bro..i jus posted an explaination of how maybe Jesus/Yeshua is being perceived by bro brey in another post...u might be interested to look see..
another cv game..hmm...nv really memorized any other of the dialogues of others..but i like rondo of blood...damn hard game..atm..enjoying myself with WoW...
RoB freaking hard man! i vomitted blood so many times!!
ok i check it out ;)
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cool pictures.. wow..
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
RoB freaking hard man! i vomitted blood so many times!!
ok i check it out ;)
RoB was voted top one most difficult game on psp...i still left with 1 stage to clear and cant beat the 3rd form of dracula..sian..check out wow let me know leh..u wan i can let u play for free 10 days..if u like it den let me know...i can recruit u in and give u 30 lvs....
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
RoB was voted top one most difficult game on psp...i still left with 1 stage to clear and cant beat the 3rd form of dracula..sian..check out wow let me know leh..u wan i can let u play for free 10 days..if u like it den let me know...i can recruit u in and give u 30 lvs....
oh ok...go where & play again?