Well, he knew he could not overpower God. So, why didn't he try to repent and see if God will forgive him or not? Surely, he knows he has no hope of winning the wars.
I often wonder what is Satan' motivation for doing evil back when I was still a christian.
(This post is based on the assumption that Satan is evil, and God is good, which is not my belief.)
I believe it is God's will that Satan does not repent. This allows Christians to use Satan as a scapegoat for their sins, wahahahahha! Sometimes, Satan is abused by Christians.
Originally posted by S.gal83:Well, he knew he could not overpower God. So, why didn't he try to repent and see if God will forgive him or not? Surely, he knows he has no hope of winning the wars.
I often wonder what is Satan' motivation for doing evil back when I was still a christian.(This post is based on the assumption that Satan is evil, and God is good, which is not my belief.)
Satan knew he cannot overpower God in terms of well..power..martial strength..superiority...but..he thought he might have a chance on the decision on right to rule..sovereignty issues..you dont see satan challenge God on strength or 1 on 1 duels right??think of how he twists God's words to Eve...how he challenge God on Job's conditions..even tempting Jesus...
all that satan did was to challenge the right to rule..he does stand a good chance that people will throw their lot behind him if he can distract them enough..why else do you need to work so many hours a day just to put food on your table..would you still have that much time and energy to learn about God's way??also the entertainment now..mostly talk about spiritism and things which are detestable to God...yet glorified now..lastly, the most import arsenal of satan is religion..all religions usually teach people to do good..seems harmless enough..in fact good..but it does not originate with the manufacturer..think how pirated stuff can ruin your systems in the long run theory..
Satan's motivation is also simple to read..just wondering why your church never touch on all these??
Satan was a beautiful cherub..i guess he must be only second to michael in terms of beauty and might..surely many angels look to him for many matters..and that bugger starts to grow vain and wants worship for himself only..hence started his nonsense..
hop i helped clear some questions..
Originally posted by Fantagf:I believe it is God's will that Satan does not repent. This allows Christians to use Satan as a scapegoat for their sins, wahahahahha! Sometimes, Satan is abused by Christians.
then God will not be fair isnt it??and then everything in the bible will be bullshit..if God is like this..i wont want a God like him...i'll be the 1st to revolt..
Originally posted by domonkassyu:then God will not be fair isnt it??and then everything in the bible will be bullshit..if God is like this..i wont want a God like him...i'll be the 1st to revolt..
There many loopholes in the bible. I hope you don't place too high hope on the bible and god.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:Satan knew he cannot overpower God in terms of well..power..martial strength..superiority...but..he thought he might have a chance on the decision on right to rule..sovereignty issues..you dont see satan challenge God on strength or 1 on 1 duels right??think of how he twists God's words to Eve...how he challenge God on Job's conditions..even tempting Jesus...
all that satan did was to challenge the right to rule..he does stand a good chance that people will throw their lot behind him if he can distract them enough..why else do you need to work so many hours a day just to put food on your table..would you still have that much time and energy to learn about God's way??also the entertainment now..mostly talk about spiritism and things which are detestable to God...yet glorified now..lastly, the most import arsenal of satan is religion..all religions usually teach people to do good..seems harmless enough..in fact good..but it does not originate with the manufacturer..think how pirated stuff can ruin your systems in the long run theory..
Satan's motivation is also simple to read..just wondering why your church never of beauty and might..surely many angels look to him for many matters..and that bugger starts to grow vain and wants worship for himself only..hence started his touch on all these??
Satan was a beautiful cherub..i guess he must be only second to michael in terms nonsense..
hop i helped clear some questions..
Yes, Satan was vain and rebelled.
But what about now? This moment? Today? Why don't he repent now, at today, at this second? I mean, he tried for thousands of years to win God and fail, so why don't he try repenting and see if God will forgive him?
He has free-will, don't he?
I mean, if Satan repents, won't the universe be a happy place? He can get his 1/3 angels to fall on their knees and ask God for mercy. Then, if God forgives them, there will be no hell, no evil, no pains, no sufferings?
Why will Satan fight on, today? Especially when he knows that if he don't repent, he will end up in hell one day.
May be Satan loves hell
Originally posted by Fantagf:
There many loopholes in the bible. I hope you don't place too high hope on the bible and god.
well, i had my doubts about certain issues too...so lets keep waiting and see..but again..too many things had manifested in even today liao..especially in the book of revelations..and i strongly believe the loop holes you mentioned...must be the difference between what the bible says and what religious leaders said..
Originally posted by domonkassyu:well, i had my doubts about certain issues too...so lets keep waiting and see..but again..too many things had manifested in even today liao..especially in the book of revelations..and i strongly believe the loop holes you mentioned...must be the difference between what the bible says and what religious leaders said..
No.
Shall talk on this in future.
Originally posted by S.gal83:Yes, Satan was vain and rebelled.
But what about now? This moment? Today? Why don't he repent now, at today, at this second? I mean, he tried for thousands of years to win God and fail, so why don't he try repenting and see if God will forgive him?
He has free-will, don't he?
I mean, if Satan repents, won't the universe be a happy place? He can get his 1/3 angels to fall on their knees and ask God for mercy. Then, if God forgives them, there will be no hell, no evil, no pains, no sufferings?
Why will Satan fight on, today? Especially when he knows that if he don't repent, he will end up in hell one day.
you do realize time meant nothing to beings who can live forever right?he does have free will..thats why he chose to fight on..to feed his vanity..he wants the worship directed to God to be directed to him instead...so thats why he is not interested to say sorry..why apologize when you know you might win??satan isnt dumb..the lowest demon is way too superior than the smartest human..even adam...
he know he wont go hell..cuz he knew there is no hell too..hell is but a concept of satan to paint God as an unfair God...tormenting eternity for a few thousand years of trouble..
satan fights on for his own pride..by the way...the other demons can choose their own path..but they are united against God..
cos Satan has 3 poisons, ignorance, craving and greedy.
he is unenlightened, period.
why is satan always portrayed as the evil one in the first place?
Well, I do not see it in the way that it is God's Will that Satan do not repent but rather it is God ability to know the future that he would not repent even if God himself tells him.
Tested and proven on humans by Jesus during his last supper.
Originally posted by eeden.:why is satan always portrayed as the evil one in the first place?
cos its popular to have someone as a scapegoat for human's fault
Originally posted by Fantagf:
No.Shall talk on this in future.
roger...
Originally posted by Fantagf:May be Satan loves hell
i tot.. satan job is to do evil.. that why he was post to hell to station there? And if he repent.. he will be out of job..
Originally posted by eeden.:why is satan always portrayed as the evil one in the first place?
Err.. cos his look don't fit into heaven i guess.. they always said satan look evil.. if he look kind and loving.. and lives in hell also weird.
Originally posted by Giggles_chipmunk:
i tot.. satan job is to do evil.. that why he was post to hell to station there? And if he repent.. he will be out of job..
Think he was meant to be a spiritual sacrificial scapegoat.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Think he was meant to be a spiritual sacrificial scapegoat.
sacrifise? its a barbaric and unmoral act.
Originally posted by Giggles_chipmunk:
i tot.. satan job is to do evil.. that why he was post to hell to station there? And if he repent.. he will be out of job..
seriously you are either kidding..or you are being told of such lies..to both your posts..satan was made very beautiful..he is only ugly at heart now..outward wise.he sure looks beautiful too..or else how to tempt and seduce..
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Think he was meant to be a spiritual sacrificial scapegoat.
nope..
Originally posted by Giggles_chipmunk:
Err.. cos his look don't fit into heaven i guess.. they always said satan look evil.. if he look kind and loving.. and lives in hell also weird.
look is the magic word.they have already assumed satan to be evil and bad looking based on his rebel against god.but do we have the rights to assume things when we don't witness things for ourselves?god may not be the "all-good" person.
then spritual scarificial scapegoat will be satan job.. is a job and duty he need to fullfill.
Originally posted by Giggles_chipmunk:then spritual scarificial scapegoat will be satan job.. is a job and duty he need to fullfill.
if such thing does happen..that makes God unjust..and i will denounce him even curse him...satan chose to rebel..
Originally posted by domonkassyu:if such thing does happen..that makes God unjust..and i will denounce him even curse him...satan chose to rebel..
Why the fuck do you think I am against god?