Originally posted by domonkassyu:no need calculate...cuz already written.. 144k..
144k
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worse then tio Toto hor
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:wait bro...not only jews...brey does not accept Christ as his messiah too remember? so u sure u seeking the right person?
here...take these. (holy glasses)
well.he does mentioned he accept yeshua as the messiah..thats good enough for me..cuz i know what he meant =) anyway..learn hebrew no need learn from someone very skilled in bible..u knw that mosie guy over that corner??that road sweeper..he can teach oso..haha..i jus wanna learn hebrew..but scared ppl will think im palestinian..haha
Originally posted by breytonhartge:Hi Domon, the only reason why many did not accept Maschiach then, was for our sakes... so that the goyim have a chance to be saved. But I do also know Messianic Jews who have accepted Maschiach. Let me just say that the Yeshua they know will definitely not fit the image of jc that the churches preach...
Me still learning... my wife is more fluent. She speaks hebrew better than I can.
me wan learn...but can free lessons??cash strapped leh..haha
Originally posted by domonkassyu:well.he does mentioned he accept yeshua as the messiah..thats good enough for me..cuz i know what he meant =) anyway..learn hebrew no need learn from someone very skilled in bible..u knw that mosie guy over that corner??that road sweeper..he can teach oso..haha..i jus wanna learn hebrew..but scared ppl will think im palestinian..haha
So i accept Jesus or Yeshua as my messiah. is it good enough for u? :)
Originally posted by noahnoah:
IF God wans me back in heaventhen it must be the biggest joke on
this earth~~
dont worry..God does not want u in heaven..ur lot is on paradise earth..haha..with all ur love ones...
so now im like the middle man of brey and sikoyo..haha...have to thank both of your for placing me in such exalted position.. =)
Originally posted by Joshen zx:
YES!! HAHA!! One of the reasons I love the Bible is that its full of wonderful little nuggets..
For example, i dunno if you heard of this b4, but the hebrew meanings of the Genealogy of Noah holds a secret.
Adam, Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalalel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah..
Man , Appointed One , Mortal , Suffering, The blessed God, come down, teaching, His Death Shall Bring, Powerful ,Rest
Put together, it says : Man is appointed mortal suffering, the Blessed God shall come down teaching that His death shall bring Powerful rest
Of course, if you read it according to jewish literary custom, it will look something totally different... but then, the bible was written for the whole world as well isnt it? I believe that there is so much more than the surface.. truly God is awesome..
dont read too much into unscriptural stuff..dangerous...and God cannot die..
Originally posted by domonkassyu:dont worry..God does not want u in heaven..ur lot is on paradise earth..haha..with all ur love ones...
so now im like the middle man of brey and sikoyo..haha...have to thank both of your for placing me in such exalted position.. =)
middle man or not. the truth is we 3 will stand together b4 God on judgement day :)
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:So i accept Jesus or Yeshua as my messiah. is it good enough for u? :)
good enough for me??eh??erm....to break it down..your JC/Yeshua is very different from brey..and i believe even brey's is quite different from mine..haha..
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:middle man or not. the truth is we 3 will stand together b4 God on judgement day :)
true..but then again..my path is chosen..hope u and brey and all your love ones will see the real light and be blissful in the restored earth..that is my blessing to you and brey.. ^^
Originally posted by domonkassyu:true..but then again..my path is chosen..hope u and brey and all your love ones will see the real light and be blissful in the restored earth..that is my blessing to you and brey.. ^^
may you and those you love also be blessed to be counted righteous to live in the restored olam haba.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:good enough for me??eh??erm....to break it down..your JC/Yeshua is very different from brey..and i believe even brey's is quite different from mine..haha..
brey's version is different from urs?? now its getting complicated...but i like to hear ur version :)
Originally posted by domonkassyu:true..but then again..my path is chosen..hope u and brey and all your love ones will see the real light and be blissful in the restored earth..that is my blessing to you and brey.. ^^
i bless u too my bro :) may God show u ur way to His kingdom.
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:middle man or not. the truth is we 3 will stand together b4 God on judgement day :)
me also will stand together with u all
b4 God too~~and maybe the Noah too
most probably i know where i land up in~~
Originally posted by noahnoah:
me also will stand together with u allb4 God too~~and maybe the Noah too
most probably i know where i land up in~~
u r welcome to be wif us bro & i hope God forgives all of us as we all believe in Him, although different methods. hehe.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:may you and those you love also be blessed to be counted righteous to live in the restored olam haba.
thanks man ^^..i just wan people i love to be in the restored earth..not myself..haha
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:brey's version is different from urs?? now its getting complicated...but i like to hear ur version :)
God has shown me the way to his kingdom..to be counted as his friend even...but i let him down.. ^^ or do i repent..yet i kept defending his name..wanting people to know the truth..thats why fantagf say i contradicting lor..haha
my Jesus/Yeshua..simple..the only begotten son of God..who is a god but not the alimighty God..the only one who can imitate God so well that by imitating Jesus..we imitate God and live a godly life as approved By God..
my version of him is exactly like what the bible teaches..the greatest teacher..a master craftsman..the first born(alpha) the last perfect man to die(omega)
i suspect...the arch angel Michael may be the prehuman Jesus..Michael meaning who is like God..who else but the son is like God??so to know the bible version is to know my version lor..hehe
Originally posted by noahnoah:
me also will stand together with u allb4 God too~~and maybe the Noah too
most probably i know where i land up in~~
would be fun to see noah's reaction when he sees and know u.."so this punk is trying to build an ark too??yeah..ask him to try when hes a few hundred years old.." =p
dont read too much into unscriptural stuff..dangerous...and God cannot die..
Jesus did die on the cross didnt He? If not , then Paul has been unscriptural, he has preached many times on the death of Jesus and its significance ... and alot of scriptures prophecied Jesus on the cross..
Originally posted by Joshen zx:Jesus did die on the cross didnt He? If not , then Paul has been unscriptural, he has preached many times on the death of Jesus and its significance ... and alot of scriptures prophecied Jesus on the cross..
ya..agree..Jesus did die..while i said God cannot die..get my drift?
Lol.. but God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one... Yes, God cannot die, so God had to take on a human flesh , otherwise, he cannot be our kinsman redeemer.
The terms of a kinsman redeemer is :
1) be of the same family. Jesus had to come down as a human to redeem us.
2)must be able. Jesus as God is able, definitely.
3) must be willing. Jesus as Love, definitely willing.
if there was one example, it would be Boaz, who redeemed Ruth.
If I use typology, then Boaz is Jesus, Ruth is the church. Jesus is 100% God, 100% man... and its totally scriptural =)
Originally posted by Joshen zx:Lol.. but God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one... Yes, God cannot die, so God had to take on a human flesh , otherwise, he cannot be our kinsman redeemer.
The terms of a kinsman redeemer is :
1) be of the same family. Jesus had to come down as a human to redeem us.
2)must be able. Jesus as God is able, definitely.
3) must be willing. Jesus as Love, definitely willing.
if there was one example, it would be Boaz, who redeemed Ruth.
If I use typology, then Boaz is Jesus, Ruth is the church. Jesus is 100% God, 100% man... and its totally scriptural =)
trust me..its totally unscriptural...based on your terms..
1) same family..Father and son is definitely same family..since God the father cant die..and he wants to give humans the best gift..the best choice is Jesus..
2) must be able..since jesus is a god (not the God)..definitely
3) must be willing...to many times in the new testament..jesus had always submitted to his God Yahweh/Jehovah..and he was willing to die for humans not only because the father willed so..but also because he wanna please the father and he also love humans..
hence..Jesus can and will die for us.. ^^ so thats why Jesus can die..but God cannot die..
hmm.. which part is unscriptural?
i'm looking at my points and your points and there is not much diff.. lol..
Maybe the only diff is that I believe that Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are collectively recognised as God, one cannot do without the other and they work together perfectly..
Or am i missing something else?
Originally posted by Joshen zx:hmm.. which part is unscriptural?
i'm looking at my points and your points and there is not much diff.. lol..
Maybe the only diff is that I believe that Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are collectively recognised as God, one cannot do without the other and they work together perfectly..
Or am i missing something else?
hehe..the concept of trinity is unscriptural lor..hehe.. =) thats why u will feel confused...the sender cannot be the same as the one sent..father cannot be the same as the son.God cannot subject himself to God..nor can God res God...God has no equal..and God cannot die.. ^^
ooo... nah..im very certain.. no confusion there.. hehe..
i think then that it will be very difficult to reconcile with a VAST majority of other christians if the trinity is rejected as unscriptural, since even the most traditional and conservative of them will acknowledge that the trinity is a base truth... in fact, what would interest me is if you can back up your interpretation with scripture plus its context..
As for the trinity, there are many scriptures where if a passage describes God the Father, , there is also a passage that describes God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in the same manner...
I'm not referring to the mormon teaching that God is made up of 3 gods, but i'm saying that there is only ONE God who exists in 3 forms.. for some reason im seeing a picture of water(solid,liquid,gas)... but thats another topic =D
Originally posted by Joshen zx:ooo... nah..im very certain.. no confusion there.. hehe..
i think then that it will be very difficult to reconcile with a VAST majority of other christians if the trinity is rejected as unscriptural, since even the most traditional and conservative of them will acknowledge that the trinity is a base truth... in fact, what would interest me is if you can back up your interpretation with scripture plus its context..
As for the trinity, there are many scriptures where if a passage describes God the Father, , there is also a passage that describes God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in the same manner...
I'm not referring to the mormon teaching that God is made up of 3 gods, but i'm saying that there is only ONE God who exists in 3 forms.. for some reason im seeing a picture of water(solid,liquid,gas)... but thats another topic =D
^^.. a pastor once tried the same trick on me on water in 3 states..he couldnt justiy after a few more qns..trinity is foreign in the old testament as well as in the new testament..throughout the whole bible..usually only God is mentiond..then Jesus..and lastly the HS is only mentioned in very lil details..usually as an instrument rather than a person.. ^^
which part u wan me to back up fren??