haha...brey, u r still asking the same qns...u shld direct them to my threads in ur forum...especially the one on "Can our conscience be trusted?" maybe i shld repost tat one in tis thread but then again, it sure wil get flamed...haha
Originally posted by despondent:haha...brey, u r still asking the same qns...u shld direct them to my threads in ur forum...especially the one on "Can our conscience be trusted?" maybe i shld repost tat one in tis thread but then again, it sure wil get flamed...haha
hey you could restart my forum... we will see if you wanna help me.
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Ah...novelltie bro...i hav read ur posts & u are 1 of the sensible & knowledgable christians around. As a fellow christian, i feel sad dat christianity is the most hated religion in the world. Actually we r only a simple & peaceful bunch of people but many hav a wrong impression of us just becos of a few bad eggs. which religion doesn't hav bad eggs? but then again, christianity being the most hated religion in the world reflects the true power of our Lord.
rubbish
christianity being the most hated religion in the world is due to its bad eggs, which are too many to be called ' a few'
Originally posted by breytonhartge:hey you could restart my forum... we will see if you wanna help me.
u owe me a salary for two years
Originally posted by novelltie:ya... maybe some advice;
Jesus said, "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, Give to God what belongs to God"
there is no need to heed all Christians accusations or condemnation; If you are brought up a Taoist and you decided to live your religion, it's your own free will and i have nothing against it. it is God's decision that you should not be born a Christian but that does not condemn you to Hell... rather, if you live a life full of goodness and charity, you are kind, humble, love others and is of good character, i might just see you in Heaven for all i know.
God works in mysterious way and you should have your own free will on such decisions. i don't see someone born a Muslim can convert to Christianity because it's against the law, does that make him condemned to Hell? no... all of us have a plan, arranged by God so don't bother too much of what other Christians say... live your life freely.
hmm...correct me if im wrong....you are saying we are somehow destined by God to do this and that..our purpose in life right??so freewill is given to us so as to do what??either follow that destiny or go against it right?now..a freewill to go against destiny will make God look stupid isnt it??and if lives are destined..then the gift of freewill is redundant isnt it??
Originally posted by breytonhartge:Two questions:
are you sure... and
are you sure that there is even a heaven and a hell?
agreed..heaven confirm have for Yahweh himself dwells in the heaven and the earth is his footstool...hell..ask the christains who came up with that paganistic idea lor..
Originally posted by laurence82:
u owe me a salary for two years
2 years.. you never even keep the place clean.. what salary... ok lah, be nice give you a bag of bananas.. kekeke...hope you are doing well...
accordingly..it was never about just good vs bad..
good is determine by God..anything else is considered bad and definitely not from him..its about how humans live lives according to his standards which no doubt is the best way..
bad people or sinful people may have some qualities that God will see in them to give them the priviliage to stay in the paradise to come..so long as they truly repent isnt it??
and very obviously..this standard of God has become a religion..not just a normal religion..but a very twisted one now..each with his own tale to add...it goes back to the original sin of adam and eve..obey and live forever or disobey and be cut off..again..hell is unfair..it doesnt come from a fair God that is loving..
how do we judge gd n bad if we dun take God into account? by our conscience??? hmmm....can we fully trust our conscience then? is our conscience 100% accurate?
to brey, does the above ring a bell??? haha
Originally posted by domonkassyu:accordingly..it was never about just good vs bad..
good is determine by God..anything else is considered bad and definitely not from him..its about how humans live lives according to his standards which no doubt is the best way..
bad people or sinful people may have some qualities that God will see in them to give them the priviliage to stay in the paradise to come..so long as they truly repent isnt it??
and very obviously..this standard of God has become a religion..not just a normal religion..but a very twisted one now..each with his own tale to add...it goes back to the original sin of adam and eve..obey and live forever or disobey and be cut off..again..hell is unfair..it doesnt come from a fair God that is loving..
How do we know we are living according to the standards of Hashem? What are His standards?
but then again, what is fair? what is unfair?
Is G_d only just a loving G_d?
Originally posted by despondent:how do we judge gd n bad if we dun take God into account? by our conscience??? hmmm....can we fully trust our conscience then? is our conscience 100% accurate?
to brey, does the above ring a bell??? haha
you too still ringing the same bell... kekeke.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:2 years.. you never even keep the place clean.. what salary... ok lah, be nice give you a bag of bananas.. kekeke...hope you are doing well...
cant man
ok lets calculate this
min wage in Down Under is $8/hour avg for a cleaner
8 x 40hours/week x 52 week x 2 years = $33, 280
i am going to claim my work clothes, overtime allowance and other claims from the Australian gahmen
Originally posted by laurence82:cant man
ok lets calculate this
min wage in Down Under is $8/hour avg for a cleaner
8 x 40hours/week x 52 week x 2 years = $33, 280
i am going to claim my work clothes, overtime allowance and other claims from the Australian gahmen
errr... in sg no min wage right? say maybe $3 per hour, but you only work say about less than an hour per week... so lets give you one hour a week... so it is $3 x 52 X 2 = $312 SGD...but then, in the last year, you did not come in to work at all and even let everything go... so must claim back for maintenence and repairs... so say we call it even... hehe.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:How do we know we are living according to the standards of Hashem? What are His standards?
but then again, what is fair? what is unfair?
Is G_d only just a loving G_d?
erm..thats why we live our live imitating Jesus since he was the closest to God..whom God had approved..imperfect humans cannot attain 100% imitation but can only strive their pathetic best..Yodh Hew Wah Hew had his standards spelt out in the bible..kinda like follow and do once you are convinced its the best way to live..
God is love..that is his foremost quality..without love, he would never wanna waste time creating you and me..he wants to share the joy of living..then he is righteous..and all the other good qualities..but love is still the foremost..
Originally posted by breytonhartge:if that is all that matters then why even believe in the G_d of Avraham, Yitzak and Yakov? Then why does the Brit Chadashah (NT) put emphasis on Yeshua as being the only way to Abba? Even in the Tanakh (OT), the way to salvation is through Hashem.
The next question then is how or by what standard do we define a "good" person??
Bro honestly, i dun hav an answer u desire for ur 1st question. I may hav my own perception but there will be many to disagree with me. There r too many variations to the original hebrew bible so i believe many are misquoted, again is re-wriiten by humans. i believe in God, not humans. At the end of the day, religion is about faith & how much u believe.
To answer ur 2nd question, to me...a good person is someone who puts others ahead of himself aka unselfish. But do u agree?
Originally posted by laurence82:rubbish
christianity being the most hated religion in the world is due to its bad eggs, which are too many to be called ' a few'
Ok put it in the way u desire. Many bad eggs. But may i ask...are there good christians around my friend?
Originally posted by Uraniumfish:God is Morgan Freeman.
In movies.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:2 years.. you never even keep the place clean.. what salary... ok lah, be nice give you a bag of bananas.. kekeke...hope you are doing well...
what forum
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Ok put it in the way u desire. Many bad eggs. But may i ask...are there good christians around my friend?
Unfortunately, i cant put it further from truth, so i cant really desire, can i?
2nd point is irrelevant, so what if there are good christians ard? will they subdue the bad ones?
Originally posted by laurence82:Unfortunately, i cant put it further from truth, so i cant really desire, can i?
2nd point is irrelevant, so what if there are good christians ard? will they subdue the bad ones?
Then u are stereotyping. so can i bluntly say dat there r oso bad buddhist, taoist, muslims, hindus?
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Then u are stereotyping. so can i bluntly say dat there r oso bad buddhist, taoist, muslims, hindus?
Not really, it is not
The existence or absence of bad apples is not the issue here
Originally posted by laurence82:Not really, it is not
The existence or absence of bad apples is not the issue here
Bro...i can see u may hav a really bad brush up with some christians previously. honestly i dun blame u hating christianity becos i feel many christians even in sg ruined the true meaning of christianity with their ignorance. but wat i want to share with u is dat im also a christian but im at peace with people & i dun force others into my faith. not everyone is as bad as u had seen.
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Bro...i can see u may hav a really bad brush up with some christians previously. honestly i dun blame u hating christianity becos i feel many christians even in sg ruined the true meaning of christianity with their ignorance. but wat i want to share with u is dat im also a christian but im at peace with people & i dun force others into my faith. not everyone is as bad as u had seen.
now you are talking sense, and that is the reason why christianity is the most hated religion in the world, not because it reflects the true power of god, thats warped logic
i am not sure if everyone is as bad as i seen...when did i ever say this?
Originally posted by laurence82:now you are talking sense, and that is the reason why christianity is the most hated religion in the world, not because it reflects the true power of god, thats warped logic
i am not sure if everyone is as bad as i seen...when did i ever say this?
Becos i felt the strong words in ur posts.
But then again during the passion of Jesus Christ, how many mortals then hated Jesus & do not believe in him as the Son of God?
In the past, christianity had already been the most hated religion. it jus carried on till now and had nothing to do with the christians mis-conception these days.