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Originally posted by marcteng:whats the difference between christians, jehovah witness and catholic and methodist?
different believes of the same book..
just like jews worship the God of abraham, christians worship the God of abraham. muslims worship the God of Ibrahim(abraham)..got any difference??why are they fighting??
Christians are people who believed in Jesus being the represantative of God (YHWH/JHVH)on earth for that time and what he preached were what God wanted humans to know of himself..thats 1st century christains anyway..mordern christians belive jesus is God..and all those trying to say even abraham believe in trinity will come after me again..
catholic are the 1st batch who started the trinity belief...and they call a mortal woman the mom of God..irony they also would say God has no beginning..also, they claim mary is sinless too..another irony is that mary offered a sacrifice for sins after she gave birth to Jesus..hmm...Catholic has endless tales..beautiful,colorful, and dark especially with their rich pagan background..
methodist..another protestant group that protested against protestants after protestants protested against catholics..
Jehovah Witnesses..misunderstood by public..they believe the use of personal name of God is important..would you not wanna know the name of the person you are talking to??they use the name Jehovah because its the most widely accepted english version of the jewish four lettered word of God's name..they do not believe in trinity..do not love war..they published their own bible because they choose to insert the name Jehovah 7000+ times for both old and new testaments instead of using tittles like LORD God which kinda sounded stupid..
working not meant to be used to do things like this meh??i always thought it was..
God's name is not Yahweh?
Originally posted by domonkassyu:different believes of the same book..
just like jews worship the God of abraham, christians worship the God of abraham. muslims worship the God of Ibrahim(abraham)..got any difference??why are they fighting??
Christians are people who believed in Jesus being the represantative of God (YHWH/JHVH)on earth for that time and what he preached were what God wanted humans to know of himself..thats 1st century christains anyway..mordern christians belive jesus is God..and all those trying to say even abraham believe in trinity will come after me again..
catholic are the 1st batch who started the trinity belief...and they call a mortal woman the mom of God..irony they also would say God has no beginning..also, they claim mary is sinless too..another irony is that mary offered a sacrifice for sins after she gave birth to Jesus..hmm...Catholic has endless tales..beautiful,colorful, and dark especially with their rich pagan background..
methodist..another protestant group that protested against protestants after protestants protested against catholics..
Jehovah Witnesses..misunderstood by public..they believe the use of personal name of God is important..would you not wanna know the name of the person you are talking to??they use the name Jehovah because its the most widely accepted english version of the jewish four lettered word of God's name..they do not believe in trinity..do not love war..they published their own bible because they choose to insert the name Jehovah 7000+ times for both old and new testaments instead of using tittles like LORD God which kinda sounded stupid..
but end of the day, the Lord is still the Lord
Originally posted by marcteng:God's name is not Yahweh?
yes it is... He has many other names but His favourite is Father, our Father.
Originally posted by novelltie:yes it is... He has many other names but His favourite is Father, our Father.
why so many names?
Originally posted by marcteng:God's name is not Yahweh?
well..the actual pronouciation is lost..only God knows how his name is pronouced now...except the angels, Jesus, demons...based on the ancient hebrew wordings..can only translate to YHWH..some how..people start putting Js into hebrew when hebrew dont have a J.....so names like Jesus, Jerusalem, Jehovah, Jehosaphat and all other hebrew names with J in them are pronouced wrongly...but they are the only thing we have now..
of a side note..YHWH = Yodh Hew Wah Hew as according to the book of psalms..so now..people either call God as Yahoo..i mean Yahweh or Jehovah(besides confusing it with Jesus) or just use titles like lord,almighty...yada yada yada..
Originally posted by domonkassyu:well..the actual pronouciation is lost..only God knows how his name is pronouced now...except the angels, Jesus, demons...based on the ancient hebrew wordings..can only translate to YHWH..some how..people start putting Js into hebrew when hebrew dont have a J.....so names like Jesus, Jerusalem, Jehovah, Jehosaphat and all other hebrew names with J in them are pronouced wrongly...but they are the only thing we have now..
of a side note..YHWH = Yodh Hew Wah Hew as according to the book of psalms..so now..people either call God as Yahoo..i mean Yahweh or Jehovah(besides confusing it with Jesus) or just use titles like lord,almighty...yada yada yada..
So many names
Originally posted by novelltie:but end of the day, the Lord is still the Lord
yep..God is still God..i kinda agreed with the JWs on the point of using his name...since christianity or the belief of God is pretty much establishing a personal r/s with Him..isnt it much more logical to use his personal name??
E.g...hi.whats your name??lets be friends..oh..you are peter??well, you can call me Lord..almighty God..grand creator..LORD GOD..so lets go along with my titles alright peter??
Originally posted by domonkassyu:well..the actual pronouciation is lost..only God knows how his name is pronouced now...except the angels, Jesus, demons...based on the ancient hebrew wordings..can only translate to YHWH..some how..people start putting Js into hebrew when hebrew dont have a J.....so names like Jesus, Jerusalem, Jehovah, Jehosaphat and all other hebrew names with J in them are pronouced wrongly...but they are the only thing we have now..
of a side note..YHWH = Yodh Hew Wah Hew as according to the book of psalms..so now..people either call God as Yahoo..i mean Yahweh or Jehovah(besides confusing it with Jesus) or just use titles like lord,almighty...yada yada yada..
is that how yahoo name was derived lol?
yada yada yada means god's name?
ehz..to make it clear..names are different from titles...he has but one name..the divine name that is lost to humans due to superstitions of the jews..
its kinda like we have to make do with what we have now...since their is no way God will suddenly announce his name over the air how to say his name or call us on our blackberries..neither will angels..and we cant trust the demons..
vincent: hi..my name is vincent..but dont use my name for bad purposes..
humans A: erm..ok..
Human B: what's his name again??wincent or vindent right?
human A: (erm..vincent told me not to use his name for a bad purpose..)..says to human B..lets just call him bro..
both humans: yo brother...
Vincent: -_-
Originally posted by marcteng:is that how yahoo name was derived lol?
yada yada yada means god's name?
please play with God's name at your own perils...
like all of us said, the actual pronounciation is lost... only God knows Himself.
one very good example; Thierry Henry... we pronouce Henry as Henry but the French call is "hawn-ry"
Jean is either Jean or John...
even Silvinho is actually Sylvinho based on his own language... so only God knows how to pronounce his own name in his own language. (it is said Heavenly beings speak another kind of language which no mortals can understand)
thats a bad metaphor to use.
Originally posted by marcteng:is that how yahoo name was derived lol?
yada yada yada means god's name?
piang..no lah..jus to lighten things up lah..you serious or not..dun knw wat yada yada yada means?its the same as blah blah blah.so many titles are given to God..how to remember each and every single one??
Originally posted by novelltie:please play with God's name at your own perils...
like all of us said, the actual pronounciation is lost... only God knows Himself.
one very good example; Thierry Henry... we pronouce Henry as Henry but the French call is "hawn-ry"
Jean is either Jean or John...
even Silvinho is actually Sylvinho based on his own language... so only God knows how to pronounce his own name in his own language. (it is said Heavenly beings speak another kind of language which no mortals can understand)
pretty good examples..
the Lord who gives;
the Lord who delivers;
the Lord who protects;
the Lord who guide;
all these have different names so why not let's just call him Dad? easy and personal.
Originally posted by novelltie:the Lord who gives;
the Lord who delivers;
the Lord who protects;
the Lord who guide;
all these have different names so why not let's just call him Dad? easy and personal.
i agree on the daddy part..but u type the 4 points with Lord...unless i suddenly saw wrongly..but the lord in give till the lord in guide looks ths same to me...aint they the same person??
yeah, the same God...
Abraham called him the Lord who gives, someone else calls Him the Lord who protects... all these names point to the same person;
Originally posted by Suffocate:Nowadays got alot of christian parents like to force their kids to go to church when they are still very young.
so what do you propose....
when parents go to church, they ask their 3 yr child if he rather stay at home alone?
at the end of the day, young children go where their parents go, eat what their parents decide they should eat...
no parent can force their young adult child to go to church if the child decides not to go.
... another flaming thread....
Originally posted by novelltie:yeah, the same God...
Abraham called him the Lord who gives, someone else calls Him the Lord who protects... all these names point to the same person;
again..its the titles..not names..but yeah...daddy..
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
so what do you propose....when parents go to church, they ask their 3 yr child if he rather stay at home alone?
at the end of the day, young children go where their parents go, eat what their parents decide they should eat...
no parent can force their young adult child to go to church if the child decides not to go.
... another flaming thread....
and for once unker CE and I are on the same page... same page.. keke
Originally posted by despondent:to me, tis thread is a personal attack on christianity. TS probably had bad experiences wif christians. cos its also obvious tat parents of other religions do force their children to follow their religious beliefs, yet little is mentioned abt such parents. instead theres a huge influx of criticism against christian parents...hmmm...
one is considered influx meh?
Originally posted by laurence82:one is considered influx meh?
I don't agree it is influx. There are many christians here to defend.
Perhaps, that forumer despondent should define his her meaning of influx.
HEY BREY!!! havent seen u for a very long time...wads up wif u???