Christian parents forcing their children to go church
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Originally posted by Midlusionz:
If your kids choose to be a free thinker or believe other religions what will u do? Just curious
I'll try to teach my kids about the living Lord I'll show him things about the living Lord if he still decides to be a follower of other religion or a 'free' thinker when he's adult then I cannot do anything to force him otherwise. I would consider that I had done my best to teach and nurture him about God. I would feel disappointed but he is still my children. That cannot be changed. Though I would still condemn whatever he did wrong morally because of his new belief.
It's the same thing with nurturing patriotism in school to young children. If parents cannot nurture their children on God then the state must not be allowed to nurture patriotism on their children either. -
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I have no time to reply to stupid comments
but got time to think of political conspiraciesgreat job
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I'll try to teach my kids about the living Lord I'll show him things about the living Lord if he still decides to be a follower of other religion or a 'free' thinker when he's adult then I cannot do anything to force him otherwise. I would consider that I had done my best to teach and nurture him about God. I would feel disappointed but he is still my children. That cannot be changed. Though I would still condemn whatever he did wrong morally because of his new belief.
It's the same thing with nurturing patriotism in school to young children. If parents cannot nurture their children on God then the state must not be allowed to nurture patriotism on their children either.
Wow, talk about putting no pressure on your kids. -
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
It's the same thing with nurturing patriotism in school to young children. If parents cannot nurture their children on God then the state must not be allowed to nurture patriotism on their children either.To some degree, i disagree on the last line
Its comparing apples and oranges
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I'll try to teach my kids about the living Lord I'll show him things about the living Lord if he still decides to be a follower of other religion or a 'free' thinker when he's adult then I cannot do anything to force him otherwise. I would consider that I had done my best to teach and nurture him about God. I would feel disappointed but he is still my children. That cannot be changed. Though I would still condemn whatever he did wrong morally because of his new belief.
It's the same thing with nurturing patriotism in school to young children. If parents cannot nurture their children on God then the state must not be allowed to nurture patriotism on their children either.Ok Thank you :)
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At the end of the day it's up to the parents to decide what it is to teach their kids... I think it's a joke if the parent is a devout christian, buddhist, muslim, athiest or whatever... and then they make no attempt to influence or even pass on their values and traditions to their kids.
Ultimately no parent and avoid this duty, like it or not we want our kids to reflect our values and worldviews. The question is of course, if this should be done in a way that restricts their freedom to choose and explore their own questions about life for themselves at the end of the day.
But no I think it's a big joke if a person is a devout Christian and raises his kid in a totally sterile, Christianity-free environment. The element of choice must be there for the child to eventually make his own choice, but it's another thing to say "hey, I'm a Christian but for the sake of fairness let's raise you the secular humanist way."
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got force?
i saw so many kids in my ex church
all like very happily playing
dun think got force le
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
got force?
i saw so many kids in my ex church
all like very happily playing
dun think got force le
Well you know, sterotype makes our world easiler to deal with. -
Originally posted by Suffocate:
Nowadays got alot of christian parents like to force their kids to go to church when they are still very young.
They give alot of self righteous and crap reasons such as the church will teach their children to be good boy/girl lah, it is better for their kids to spend time in church than mix with bad company of friends lah etc etc.
Think about these poor kids who are so young and innocent and being forced to go to church and get brainwashed into believing christanity.
When these kids grow up and realise that all these are just bullshit, they decided not to go to church anymore.
Than these parents gangup with the church pastors and cell group leaders to try to con their kids to go back to church. These parents come out with alot of lame reasons to try to trick their kids to go back to church like you are backsliding lah, if you don"t go to church GOD will stop blessing you lah etc etc.
Haiz. When will these parents grow up? They want to go to church is their own problem lah. Why want to force and brainwash their kids to go to church also?
It's a norm lor... parents who are taoism also force their kids to pray to idols mah... Muslim also does that, so what makes you say sterotype christainity? It's normal for educating children in their parent's belief.... it's up to them to change their faith when they can think for themselves.Just like you eat food then you want your children to eat food... else what? stuff them with shit ah? Please use your brains when you post, Ts...
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hmm..first topic i saw after being away for so long..forcing children to go church..TS sounds so affected by it..when children are young..it is the parents role to try to give them the best..what better choice can there be other than living a godly life??
however..forcing is wrong..what should be done instead is to educate the kids slowly..so they can make their own decisions..just because they are young dont mean they cant think what is good or bad..its just like baptism at childbirth..did the baby had the right and freewill so treasured by God to choose if s/he wanna go God's way??
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
hmm..first topic i saw after being away for so long..forcing children to go church..TS sounds so affected by it..when children are young..it is the parents role to try to give them the best..what better choice can there be other than living a godly life??
however..forcing is wrong..what should be done instead is to educate the kids slowly..so they can make their own decisions..just because they are young dont mean they cant think what is good or bad..its just like baptism at childbirth..did the baby had the right and freewill so treasured by God to choose if s/he wanna go God's way??
WElcome back, did not see you here for so long. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
WElcome back, did not see you here for so long.thank you so much for even remembering me =)
2 many things happened..therefore i took a long break..like almost 1/2 a year..
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no big deal parents force kids go church
now kids more clever hor
force parent go to robinson sale and buy toys
dun buy.. they just cried and cried
also wat
So whos forcing who?
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
thank you so much for even remembering me =)
2 many things happened..therefore i took a long break..like almost 1/2 a year..
WElcome. I remember reading your posts in Speakers' Corner. -
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
hmm..first topic i saw after being away for so long..forcing children to go church..TS sounds so affected by it..when children are young..it is the parents role to try to give them the best..what better choice can there be other than living a godly life??
however..forcing is wrong..what should be done instead is to educate the kids slowly..so they can make their own decisions..just because they are young dont mean they cant think what is good or bad..its just like baptism at childbirth..did the baby had the right and freewill so treasured by God to choose if s/he wanna go God's way??
o u tio toto ar
so long no see
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
o u tio toto ar
so long no see
haha..hello nn..yeah..being a long time..i wish i tio toto too..den can set up my own religion and earn more money..haha...thanks for remembering me too.. =)
was in pretty bad times i guess =)
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i think all parents would like their children to go through similar life experiences. put it in perspective;
if i had a good experiece in Singapore's public schools; i would probably not put my child in a international private school even if if i can afford it. i might try to get my child into good reputation top schools like, Raffles, SCGS or St. Joseph, Maris Stella etc
if i had a good experience when i did my National Service, i will definitely "encourage" my son to be prepared before his enlistment. i would bring him to shops at Changi Village to purchase some stuffs to prepare him for military life and share my secrets of "how to survive N.S"
if i have a good relationship with God and believes that He watches over me every single day; i will "confirm plus guarantee" bring my child to Church and teach him the essence of the religion. Because i wish my child to bask in God's love and protection; of course i will hope that he follows my religion because of my positive relationship with God and Mother Mary. will i bring my child to Novena? of course, why not?
we as parents are given the responsibility to "pass down" our knowledge, our beliefs and our experiences to our next generation. but if they wish to choose another path later on, it is our duty to watch over them, not condemn them for they are just like yourself.
this reminds of my grandfather... before he passed on; "i see my grandfather inside my father and i see myself in my father... what my grandfather knew, he taught my father and my father in turn, taught me whatever he learnt from my grandfather... thus when i become a father, i will teach my son whatever i've learnt from both my grandfather and my father, he will inherit wisdom and experiences from all of us..."
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Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
At the end of the day it's up to the parents to decide what it is to teach their kids... I think it's a joke if the parent is a devout christian, buddhist, muslim, athiest or whatever... and then they make no attempt to influence or even pass on their values and traditions to their kids.
Ultimately no parent and avoid this duty, like it or not we want our kids to reflect our values and worldviews. The question is of course, if this should be done in a way that restricts their freedom to choose and explore their own questions about life for themselves at the end of the day.
But no I think it's a big joke if a person is a devout Christian and raises his kid in a totally sterile, Christianity-free environment. The element of choice must be there for the child to eventually make his own choice, but it's another thing to say "hey, I'm a Christian but for the sake of fairness let's raise you the secular humanist way."
very well said..element of choice...freewill..1 of the most precious gift given by God for those who believe in God..
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to me, tis thread is a personal attack on christianity. TS probably had bad experiences wif christians. cos its also obvious tat parents of other religions do force their children to follow their religious beliefs, yet little is mentioned abt such parents. instead theres a huge influx of criticism against christian parents...hmmm...
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Originally posted by despondent:
to me, tis thread is a personal attack on christianity. TS probably had bad experiences wif christians. cos its also obvious tat parents of other religions do force their children to follow their religious beliefs, yet little is mentioned abt such parents. instead theres a huge influx of criticism against christian parents...hmmm...
let's bask him in love and understanding... maybe he'll feel much better and less attack on Christians.
sayang sayang, kuchi kuchi... sayang sayang... give you chocolates and sweets.
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Originally posted by despondent:
to me, tis thread is a personal attack on christianity. TS probably had bad experiences wif christians. cos its also obvious tat parents of other religions do force their children to follow their religious beliefs, yet little is mentioned abt such parents. instead theres a huge influx of criticism against christian parents...hmmm...
maybe TS just didnt understand that parents usually wants their children to follow what they perceive as good??of course..christianity is always a good target for ridicule thanks to what the church did way back..just like now also always show how the japs invade here and there during WW2..is that not also "attacking" japs..and causing racism against japs?? 1 other reason why christianity is a good target is because they dont send suicide bombers nor do they launch crusades anymore..for now...
in fact TS thread had made christians felt the agony of general muslims when they were frowned upon becauase of a few jokers..so now christians can understand the feelings of such people..and maybe will not wanna put people of other religions feel bad..is that not the racial/religious harmony crap the government is trying so hard to achieve??
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whats the difference between christians, jehovah witness and catholic and methodist?
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r u asking a qn tat wil lead to flaming the christians?
my answer to ur qn is a lengthy one which i will onli post if u r sincerely seeking after the truth...
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Originally posted by despondent:
r u asking a qn tat wil lead to flaming the christians?
my answer to ur qn is a lengthy one which i will onli post if u r sincerely seeking after the truth...
M&P will save the day!
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Originally posted by marcteng:
whats the difference between christians, jehovah witness and catholic and methodist?
imagine all these factions as different departments in a company;
accounts, R&D, sales and marketing and human resource. we are all differently run by the nature of our jobs. sales and marketing have a flexible working hours, they can come in late and leave early to meet clients but accounts have a fixed schedule. R&D may have longer 5 1/2 days work week but they get paid more since they are specialized in their respective fields. you cannot compare the differences between each department (Catholics, Methodist or Jehovah) as the are run different and independently.
but end of the day, the CEO is God himself... He oversees the company and lead it to greater heights... something like that... there will be managers (priests, pastors) to manage you and me but the BIG decisions is by the Boss himself.