Misled Evanglists. Let's pray for their sins
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Kinda true, once created, you can safely say, ''in name of god''
If anyone argues that it's not, you can just wipe them out.Fairly neat and tidy, this arrangement.
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Originally posted by marcteng:
I tell u lar, its not god, its humans lar. Humans invent and created so much of crap that people believe in them. the concept of god was created by humans. bible and koran was written by humans what, arbo written by god himself?
And such humans claim divine inspiration, so where's the divine punishment for screwing god's name up? -
i think we best not get diverted from topic
i hope this issue becomes a lesson to those who maliciously attack other religion in name of evangelism
and pedos harassing young kids
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Originally posted by laurence82:
i think we best not get diverted from topic
i hope this issue becomes a lesson to those who maliciously attack other religion in name of evangelism
and pedos harassing young kids
I tot the main topic is that society cannot accept religion as the truth and thus evangelism of any religion is unwanted and unwarranted.As for young kids, we don't want anyone influencing their minds or bodies.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
i think we best not get diverted from topic
i hope this issue becomes a lesson to those who maliciously attack other religion in name of evangelism
and pedos harassing young kids
they are extremists in their world view. all their view is from their religion point of view. other religions are considered as satanic and non believers will go to eternal hell. salvation is thru Jesus.
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do you know that god was violent in the early days. god said it was ok to slay and kill non believers. the only way to treat no believers is to kill them
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I am not a muslim, I just like to fuck God/Jehovah/Allah up his/its arse with a GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb as he/it cause mankind to be fighting over him/it.
So, you are a homosexual eh....hehehehe -
Originally posted by googoomuck:
So, you are a homosexual eh....hehehehe
Excuse me, I will not be using my body to rape a person. I just like to inflict some horrific and embarassing pain to an nonsensical entity which created this world but caused it to fuck up as a repayment for all the pain and suffering that man is suffering. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Excuse me, I will not be using my body to rape a person. I just like to inflict some horrific and embarassing pain to an nonsensical entity which created this world but caused it to fuck up as a repayment for all the pain and suffering that man is suffering.If God does not exist, how are you going to hurt him?
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Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:
If God does not exist, how are you going to hurt him?
Easy it's because he thinks God exists just that he hates God. LOL. You are nothing how can you make God offended. Hahahaha -
I want to know why early christian and Islam are so violent.
God said to kill those who are non believers. why so violent? thats an extreme view, like those of a terrorists.
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Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:
If God does not exist, how are you going to hurt him?
If God does exist, doesn't it know when it must intervene in human affairs? -
Originally posted by marcteng:
I want to know why early christian and Islam are so violent.
God said to kill those who are non believers. why so violent? thats an extreme view, like those of a terrorists.
It's a political/economic advantage.
Besides in ancient times, if you identify a group as non believers you are then able to dehumanise them and feel they do not deserve the same rights and respect as you would to a fellow believer.
That would then give you the "moral right" to masscre them and take their properties/women.
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
It's a political/economic advantage.
Besides in ancient times, if you identify a group as non believers you are then able to dehumanise them and feel they do not deserve the same rights and respect as you would to a fellow believer.
That would then give you the "moral right" to masscre them and take their properties/women.
does the bible or koran in those days stated that the only way to deal with non believers is to kill them, u have not replied yet.
thats scary man, living in the era. whatever it is, killing is already bad enough.
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
It's a political/economic advantage.
Besides in ancient times, if you identify a group as non believers you are then able to dehumanise them and feel they do not deserve the same rights and respect as you would to a fellow believer.
That would then give you the "moral right" to masscre them and take their properties/women.
what rubbish is that, dehumanise? there can never be justifications to kill another fellow human being.
whats the purpose of having a religion then, if it is justified in killing another humans just because they are non believers?
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Originally posted by marcteng:
does the bible or koran in those days stated that the only way to deal with non believers is to kill them, u have not replied yet.
thats scary man, living in the era. whatever it is, killing is already bad enough.
Well the Bible and Koran specifically said no killing of others. Fat load of good that did. -
Originally posted by marcteng:
what rubbish is that, dehumanise? there can never be justifications to kill another fellow human being.
whats the purpose of having a religion then, if it is justified in killing another humans just because they are non believers?
You say that because you live in a flat, where water is available at a turning of the tap and a flick of a switch, electricity powers everything in it. Food can be bought from the coffeeshops/foodcourts and meat is available without you shedding blood personally."There can never be justifications to killing another human being" is an argument made by someone who never had to really fight for bare neccessities or aware how difficult it is to produce something.
Insulting you is not my intent, but for the current generation of true born in Singapore you have to admit we never really had to struggle to survive.
Tribal unity for one. A religion gives a tribe a common identify and set of beliefs. It strengthens the tribe by encouraging stability because of a common set of behaviourial rules.
The purpose of a religion i feel is a good one. It does encourage peace and stability within a society. However, depending on the belief it is easy to form a "us vs them" mentality especially when the Core Belief is that my God is the only God and any other God is considered false.
Since you chose not to believe in my God, or in some other God, then you are a heretic and thus are not covered in the rules set down by my God. You are Fair Game.
That's at least my impression when i read the history of the past millenium. When the teaching is that there can only be one interpretation of God, it is easy for conflicts to arise over miniscue details.
I mean, Islam and Christianity essentially worship the same God. Look at how much they've been fighting over it.
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
You say that because you live in a flat, where water is available at a turning of the tap and a flick of a switch, electricity powers everything in it. Food can be bought from the coffeeshops/foodcourts and meat is available without you shedding blood personally."There can never be justifications to killing another human being" is an argument made by someone who never had to really fight for bare neccessities or aware how difficult it is to produce something.
Insulting you is not my intent, but for the current generation of true born in Singapore you have to admit we never really had to struggle to survive.
Tribal unity for one. A religion gives a tribe a common identify and set of beliefs. It strengthens the tribe by encouraging stability because of a common set of behaviourial rules.
The purpose of a religion i feel is a good one. It does encourage peace and stability within a society. However, depending on the belief it is easy to form a "us vs them" mentality especially when the Core Belief is that my God is the only God and any other God is considered false.
Since you chose not to believe in my God, or in some other God, then you are a heretic and thus are not covered in the rules set down by my God. You are Fair Game.
That's at least my impression when i read the history of the past millenium. When the teaching is that there can only be one interpretation of God, it is easy for conflicts to arise over miniscue details.
I mean, Islam and Christianity essentially worship the same God. Look at how much they've been fighting over it.
do i go to hell when i die? according to your religion, yes isnt it.
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Originally posted by marcteng:
do i go to hell when i die? according to your religion, yes isnt it.
I do believe in the existence of a God, but i do not believe that going to Church every sunday and praying every night gives me any more benefits than a Muslim child in Somalia or Buddhist in Sri Lanka.To me , heaven and hell is the same exact thing.
But to point out the flaw in your logic, you are assuming i am a Christian and belong to a mainstream religion. That i am not.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Distributing tracts that contain verifiable facts can land a person in jail in Singapore?
welcome to singapore
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once again you christians have not failed to amuse me with your ignorance again.all you can do is lie..
People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.if you study history you will also know that 1400 years ago people reached puberty and matured much faster.
Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries
Aisha was already engaged to a non Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Aisha's engagement to Jober because she was physically big enough and tall enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober.The only reason why Aisha's father, Abu Baker Al Siddeek, broke her engagement with Jober is because he was a non-Muslim.
Not even the Pagans of Mecca, nor the Jews and Christians of Medina ever objected to it or used it as a point against Islam as anti-Islamic do today.
Firstly - if indeed the marriage of Lady Aisha was something which was despicable even at that time and in that culture, this fact would never have been recorded for posterity and all efforts to conceal or cloud it would have been undertaken.
But the fact that this hadith had reached us after it was recorded centuries ago and to all the Muslim generations in between proved that the marriage was culturally and morally acceptable and the fact is also that the Muslim community at that time remained unshakened in its faith in his Prophethood and the message which he had brought bear testimony to this assertion.
Secondly - we have to look at the life of Lady Aisha afterwards. She was without doubt one of the foremost scholars of Islam. It is even said that she had attained in her lifetime the position of Mufti - someone capable of giving religious rulings - a position very few Muslims will ever occupy.
She was seeked by many, both men and women, who hungered for knowledge and they came to her from all directions, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria. History does not know of any woman who was approached by so many for such a noble purpose.
If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam.According to the Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church: "Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary's Husband is believed to be around 36. Mary was only 13 when she married Joseph. When she first was arranged with Joseph she was between 7 to 9 years old."
According to the "Oxford Dictionary Bible" commentary, Mary (peace be upon her) was was 12 years old when she became impregnated.
And where did you get the thing that apostates must be killed in islam?the quran clearly states that "Let there be no compulsion in religion"[Sûrah al-Baqarah: 256]
When you want to eat do you go to the pet store to buy food?no u dont you go the market or foodcourt.Christians keep lying about islam, creating fake websites fake videos of lies that are so easily exposed. why? because when people are feeling insecure about something they always spread lies to try to mislead people about it.
Do they not consider (ponder over) the Quran (with care)? Had it been from other than God, they would surely have found therein discrepancies”. (4:82)
Many people have tried to find "contradictions" or "errors" in the quran but their lies have been exposed and refuted so easily.
God has also challenged humanity to produce a sura that can be confused for the real sura of the holy quran. But for 1400 years mankind has not been able to do so and they will never be able to do so.
Hmmm..have you found any REAL PROOF that any Muslim leaders were paedophilles?NONE..There are no muslim leaders that are paedophillies.
i suggest u learn about islam from REAL RELEVANT MUSLIM sources and see the 2 links below.
peace
http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_aisha.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpH3QL0i9w
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wah the fact that googoomuck said "veriable facts" really gave me a good laugh..He has been so brainwashed by his church.
The verse below is enough to refute and exposed the lies of the "who is allah" comic.
And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to God Who created them, if you (really) worship Him. (Qur'an 41:37)
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html
The arabic word "Allah" just Means The God. In the arabic bible you will find the word "Allah" many times. HHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAA.
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Like i said learn about islam from REAL RELEVANT MUSLIM sources.Googoomuck just gave me a good laugh with all his ignorance!
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Hope the Evangelists avoid disturbing the peace of others.
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Originally posted by thetruth26:
And where did you get the thing that apostates must be killed in islam?the quran clearly states that "Let there be no compulsion in religion"[Sûrah al-Baqarah: 256]
"Let there be no compulsion in religion" ???!!!
Why quote a verse that's abrogated so long ago? I thought that this thread is dead until you brought it back to life and in the process embarrassed yourself.
Bukhari 52:260 -"...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Bukhari 83:37 - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."
Bukhari 89:271 - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."