Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:you put God and man on equal footing so i need to go down to your level? my agrument is that which is for a choice not many choice unlike xalkryie. please read again.
i didnt initiate it
a christian already started it when he used terms like parents and court of law, i am even surprised you continue it
are christians already bending their rules and belief?
can you rephrase your second sentence? it doesnt make sense..for a chocie or or many choice or what?
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:Fact that Jesus die for our sin. the one that you ingore in the previous post on "puting Jesus instead of laurence82."
dying for our sin, 1cor15:1
you want more? go google.
but you use phrase like 'god sent laurence82'
if laurence82 is to come in place of jesus, he would come to die for our sins...arbor he come because food is awful in heaven?
duh
Originally posted by laurence82:i can get the fact that free choice is a cause of his action and decision, hence why the denial of responsibility?
do you ever think court of law will let a board of directors get away with mistake they made?
if he cant stop, i guess he is not omnipotent, or rather, he has 99% of the power perhaps, i need to look for stronger god then
The reason for his decision is because he don't want to create robots. Robots don't have free choice, human do.
No the court of law don't let their directors get away with mistake they man, God did not let us get away with the msitake we make as well.
If God have try to stop adam and eve from taking the fruit it will be not right for him, because he is the one who gave them the free choice, if he take away that free choice at that moment, would'nt make God unfair?
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:The reason for his decision is because he don't want to create robots. Robots don't have free choice, human do.
No the court of law don't let their directors get away with mistake they man, God did not let us get away with the msitake we make as well.
If God have try to stop adam and eve from taking the fruit it will be not right for him, because he is the one who gave them the free choice, if he take away that free choice at that moment, would'nt make God unfair?
your first sentence is null and void, you speaking as if you are god and know that he doesnt want to create robots
your second sentence is out of point, you put human and god on equal footing and that god is absolved from responsibility, in this respect, its a poor analogy and conflicting statements
third sentence, hence if he is omnipotent and has the potential to stop it, he is responsible for everything that is to happen next, makes sense
Originally posted by laurence82:your first sentence is null and void, you speaking as if you are god and know that he doesnt want to create robots
your second sentence is out of point, you put human and god on equal footing and that god is absolved from responsibility, in this respect, its a poor analogy and conflicting statements
third sentence, hence if he is omnipotent and has the potential to stop it, he is responsible for everything that is to happen next, makes sense
I don't claim to know everything about God, but if God create robot why the free choice?
You talk about board of director, how can you understand unless i put it like that?
He have the potential to stop it, but he did not because it will be unfair.
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:I don't claim to know everything about God, but if God create robot why the free choice?
You talk about board of director, how can you understand unless i put it like that?
He have the potential to stop it, but he did not because it will be unfair.
if ur point is null and void, i dont understand why u even need to ponder with robots and free choice?
its not even about understanding, they are pointless to the argument at hand, any progress to put court of law and god together, parents and god, wouldnt that be tantamount to blasphemy and putting down god's position as a superior being??
fair or not fair, u have inherently showed that he is directly responsible for the actions
Originally posted by laurence82:but you use phrase like 'god sent laurence82'
if laurence82 is to come in place of jesus, he would come to die for our sins...arbor he come because food is awful in heaven?
duh
lol you are quoting me out of context i say IF. which is quote from your previous post without the IF
Originally posted by laurence82:if ur point is null and void, i dont understand why u even need to ponder with robots and free choice?
its not even about understanding, they are pointless to the argument at hand, any progress to put court of law and god together, parents and god, wouldnt that be tantamount to blasphemy and putting down god's position as a superior being??
fair or not fair, u have inherently showed that he is directly responsible for the actions
Okay lets finsh this without the court of law things.
God create man, God gave man the whole garden but one tree, man took of that tree.
God say if you eat the fruit of that tree you will die.
So man ingore God's advice of not eating of that tree and eat from the tree.
If God have destory man there and there, where is God's love that is preach so much about.
If God over look their downfall [rmb man is the one who ingore God's advice], where is God's justice that is preach so much about.
So God send his Son to die for their sin, so that the man that he love so much will not perish in hell.
It is impossible to blame God for his love towards us.
I know a lot of people that HATE adam for failing, but only one that HATE God giving adam an extremely mild freedom to fail.
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:lol you are quoting me out of context i say IF. which is quote from your previous post without the IF
same with or without IF
if he does send laurence82, it would be same position as jesus
hence there is no difference and no quoting out of context
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:Okay lets finsh this without the court of law things.
God create man, God gave man the whole garden but one tree, man took of that tree.
God say if you eat the fruit of that tree you will die.
So man ingore God's advice of not eating of that tree and eat from the tree.
If God have destory man there and there, where is God's love that is preach so much about.
If God over look their downfall [rmb man is the one who ingore God's advice], where is God's justice that is preach so much about.
So God send his Son to die for their sin, so that the man that he love so much will not perish in hell.
It is impossible to blame God for his love towards us.
I know a lot of people that HATE adam for failing, but only one that HATE God giving adam an extremely mild freedom to fail.
from your points, god is absolved from responsibility because he does not have any ability to stop adam, hence in conclusion god is not omnipotent, omnipresent
hence it is impossible to blame god, he is weak anyway
Originally posted by laurence82:from your points, god is absolved from responsibility because he does not have any ability to stop adam, hence in conclusion god is not omnipotent, omnipresent
hence it is impossible to blame god, he is weak anyway
He have the ability to stop adam, he can stop adam, but if he did he will go against his own nature.
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:He have the ability to stop adam, he can stop adam, but if he did he will go against his own nature.
what nature?
so far none of your arguments really nearly persuasively says he is absolved from responsibility
Well from a very neutral standpoint i cant say much about the topic since it has spun outa hand but i feel that if people must know more about the Bible and God and etc they might wana google it or read
http://www.revelationnuggets.blogspot.com/
Originally posted by laurence82:what nature?
so far none of your arguments really nearly persuasively says he is absolved from responsibility
just nature.
I think it will take a burning bush to touch you.
It is never God's fault at all.
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:just nature.
I think it will take a burning bush to touch you.
It is never God's fault at all.
what nature?
burning bush, trees or ferns doesnt explain the garbage you spewed for last couple of posts
why its not god's fault?
Originally posted by laurence82:
what nature?burning bush, trees or ferns doesnt explain the garbage you spewed for last couple of posts
why its not god's fault?
JUST that the world JUSTice come from.
Please reread my previous post with an open heart, you will see that is it not God's fault.
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:JUST that the world JUSTice come from.
Please reread my previous post with an open heart, you will see that is it not God's fault.
i am reading totally with open heart, and i find it rubbish
you dont even bother referencing to bible or anything
justice, comparison to human, inability to stop adam...piles and and files of conflicting statements
Originally posted by laurence82:i am reading totally with open heart, and i find it rubbish
you dont even bother referencing to bible or anything
justice, comparison to human, inability to stop adam...piles and and files of conflicting statements
He meant you must read the bible with a brainwashed brain to understand it.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
He meant you must read the bible with a brainwashed brain to understand it.
as if the stuff he said comes from the bible
haha
God's justice pslam 145:20 [and many more]
God's love John 3:16 [and many more]
erm what other stuff do you need me to quote?
The LORD keeps all who love Him, But all the wicked He will destroy.
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
In what way these have any link to the discussion at hand?? We are discussing denial of responsibility, so what's justice and love?
I mean, you are losing it arent you? the moment i said biblical reference you start panicking and misquoting?
hey you want Bible to what I am saying that God is jsutice and God is love man. There is no Bible that supports your view, I'm unable to quote that man.
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:hey you want Bible to what I am saying that God is jsutice and God is love man. There is no Bible that supports your view, I'm unable to quote that man.
yeah, quoting bible on one or two points that are way out of discussion at hand
nice try but no thanks
it seems the bible does not support your view either
Originally posted by laurence82:yeah, quoting bible on one or two points that are way out of discussion at hand
nice try but no thanks
it seems the bible does not support your view either
thats why i asked which part of my PoV do you need bible for.
Originally posted by Broderick Elisha:thats why i asked which part of my PoV do you need bible for.
since when you asked?
best is to quote for every of your posts