is it sin if you disobey the ten commandments.
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question as above.
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commandments...
God commanded..
you disobey..
what the hell is that called?
certainly, you need a visit from Obviousman!
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Hahaha... Visit from Obviousman~
But anyway... Yes, commandment is the law, and law needs to be obeyed~
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Its sin to not obey the 10 Commandments... but doesn't mean we're "safe" as long as we obey the 10 Commandments... Jesus explains further... for example, one of the 10 Commandments says "You shall not commit adultery"... Jesus says that if you even look at a person's wife with lust, you already committed adultery in your mind...
Following Jesus is not easy, but that's the way to go...
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What about murder?
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
What about murder?
Also stated in the bible la... Go read it up =)
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Originally posted by kager82:
Also stated in the bible la... Go read it up =)
What about war and terrorism? -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
What about war and terrorism?Aiyoh... Waging war is not loving leh...
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Originally posted by kager82:
Aiyoh... Waging war is not loving leh...
But Bible states that God put the governments in authority over the citizens, hence if the state declares war for whatsoever reason, does it countermand the command of not killing? -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
But Bible states that God put the governments in authority over the citizens, hence if the state declares war for whatsoever reason, does it countermand the command of not killing?Read the bible starting from 1 Samuel to 2 Chronicles...
There were lots of examples of kings who did not follow the will of God... Their ending are written in it...
Just to summarize in case you couldn't be bothered to read it up... Their empire ended up being taken over, because they do not follow the commands and the way of God...
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NO.
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Originally posted by kager82:
Read the bible starting from 1 Samuel to 2 Chronicles...
There were lots of examples of kings who did not follow the will of God... Their ending are written in it...
Just to summarize in case you couldn't be bothered to read it up... Their empire ended up being taken over, because they do not follow the commands and the way of God...
But who is sinning? The soldiers who had to kill due to duty or the ruler who decides that war is justifiable? -
Originally posted by AhChye:
Its sin to not obey the 10 Commandments... but doesn't mean we're "safe" as long as we obey the 10 Commandments... Jesus explains further... for example, one of the 10 Commandments says "You shall not commit adultery"... Jesus says that if you even look at a person's wife with lust, you already committed adultery in your mind...
Following Jesus is not easy, but that's the way to go...
So we might as well remove our brains since looking will trigger our natural lust. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
But who is sinning? The soldiers who had to kill due to duty or the ruler who decides that war is justifiable?"There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you - who are you to judge your neighbor?" (James 4:12)
Good day...
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
But Bible states that God put the governments in authority over the citizens, hence if the state declares war for whatsoever reason, does it countermand the command of not killing?
Sinning or not depends a lot on the motive of an action done. The motive itself is spurned from the desire of man. And every desire comes from the heart of men. Down to the most trivial things like wanting to turn off the tv. Every one of them comes from the heart.
To ask whether a person or ourselves have committed a sin, one must know the motive thus desire of that person or ourselves.
So guard your heart to avoid committing grave sins if not every sin. Know that every time in every second we are in prayer with God, all our thoughts, hearts and actions are not hidden from God. Even when we are asleep God is not and what we dream about, He knows. One doesn't communicate with God solely in prayer but one is always communicating with God in everyday thoughts, heart(desire, emotion) and actions by realizing that they are NOT hidden from God. So before you say your prayer knows that you have been praying all your thoughts, emotions and actions all day long.
Even to the dead who have fallen asleep, God is not asleep to them but remain aware of them who no longer remember Him. -
Originally posted by kager82:
"There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you - who are you to judge your neighbor?" (James 4:12)
Good day...
But can we first judge ourselves? -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
So we might as well remove our brains since looking will trigger our natural lust.It's looking "with lust"...
I think if we're single, looking at a woman, thinking that she's beautiful, it's ok. Making friends, getting to know. It's ok. But if we indulge and the thoughts lead to... xxx, then that's sin.
If we see a woman who's married, and think of "potong jalan", that's sin.
So it's not just "looking" la. As you put it, our brains will trigger "natural lust"... but if we indulge and entertain the thought, it may lead to sin.
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Originally posted by AhChye:But can you tell me truly, when you look at a woman, that you can see her without lust?
It's looking "with lust"...
I think if we're single, looking at a woman, thinking that she's beautiful, it's ok. Making friends, getting to know. It's ok. But if we indulge and the thoughts lead to... xxx, then that's sin.
If we see a woman who's married, and think of "potong jalan", that's sin.
So it's not just "looking" la. As you put it, our brains will trigger "natural lust"... but if we indulge and entertain the thought, it may lead to sin.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
It's a matter of how quickly we recognise that the looking has moved from looking to lusting... then immediately discipline your mind to look away and stop entertaining the thought. With practice, the switching becomes quicker.
Christians are not sinless, we (try) to sin less. All of us, Christians and non, will be tempted; Jesus was tempted. But it's a matter of how quickly we identify the temptation, and reject it.
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Originally posted by AhChye:
It's a matter of how quickly we recognise that the looking has moved from looking to lusting... then immediately discipline your mind to look away and stop entertaining the thought. With practice, the switching becomes quicker.
Christians are not sinless, we (try) to sin less. All of us, Christians and non, will be tempted; Jesus was tempted. But it's a matter of how quickly we identify the temptation, and reject it.
How about removing the part of your brains that is connected to lust?
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AhCye...Jesus was tempted? I thought he's God...free from temptations?
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Christianity is more than obeying the 10 commandment
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Originally posted by hamidisaidi:
AhCye...Jesus was tempted? I thought he's God...free from temptations?
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Man if you feel lust just by looking at every women you're perpetually horny. LOL.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
Man if you feel lust just by looking at every women you’re perpetually horny. LOL.
I know it is there since the hormones are triggered, but due to my disease, the neurons flow are blocked.