500K a year pay!
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There is no such thing as 'GOD'.But there are human;if you have been reading my message or saw this.You are indeed ahuman begin with red color blood flow in your body.Therefore ,i urge everyone of them to stand up for humanity against the craps of nonsense and insanity of christainity .secondly; i urge you diligentily to stop pronation of your hand with dollars to supination hands of crapping idoits who increasing of their own wealth by just opening their mouth to talk craps.Finally,i urge you to believe in yourself of begin who you are and what you are,science and social pyscholoy .The further is in your hand for the sake of human race.
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there is no "GOD".BUT THERE ARE HUMAN OS THERE MUST BE MONEY.
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Originally posted by bored`:
So how much money goes to mission funds and how much go to building your church and spending money on your silly sound systems and titanium walls??
Judging from your posts, I can tell that youyayu is still most probably in sec school and very very immature in his christian walk.
youyayu, firstly, what you need to do is read the entire bible and see for yourself if what the bible says actually is in line with what kong says.
You may wish to also start doing your own research about 'prosperity gospel'. A simple google search on it will do.
I am deeply concerned that many young teens like youyayu (note I am not targetting you, just using your nick as an example) blindly follow false prophets like kong hee without even knowing much about the christian faith.
Here are some good articles about city harvest:
http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/03/30/non-biblical-teachings-of-kong-hee-of-city-harvest-church/
http://e-hung.blogspot.com/2008/07/dangers-of-blind-faith-is-city-harvest.html
Since you and I are not CHC members and do not contribute even a nickel to the church, it's none of our business.
You may be 'deeply concerned' about the young following a false prophet but that's just NATO.
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Since you and I are not CHC members and do not contribute even a nickel to the church, it's none of our business.
You may be 'deeply concerned' about the young following a false prophet but that's just NATO.
It is indeed business of yours and mine. Surely if you see a friend or loved one deeply involved and exhibiting cult-like behaviour, would you stand by and do nothing?
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
Since you and I are not CHC members and do not contribute even a nickel to the church, it's none of our business.
You may be 'deeply concerned' about the young following a false prophet but that's just NATO.
So, you believe it's perfectly fine if it doesn't affect your life?
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i cant believe the level of apathy towards nonsense in one's own religion
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Originally posted by bored`:
It is indeed business of yours and mine. Surely if you see a friend or loved one deeply involved and exhibiting cult-like behaviour, would you stand by and do nothing?
It's a cult in your own mind. These mega churches have not broken any law yet.
You can tell your loved ones what you want to do with them if they want to listen to you but you cannot tell others what you want to do with them.
Don't try to be a saint. It's not your business to meddle with other people's choices.
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Originally posted by Gabriella:
So, you believe it's perfectly fine if it doesn't affect your life?
Apart from the senior pastor being paid too much, tell me how these churches affect their lives? If it's bad, who is stopping them from leaving?
The church is rich so you envy them. Like I've said, if you haven't contribute a single cent to these churches, why would the members bother with your comments? You should mind your own business just as nobody here is interested in your business.
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Do you think that greed is not a sin?
What about MLM? Do you think people should be prevent from critizing the greedy CEOs just because its supposed (according to you) to be none-of-our business?
He's twisting the word of Jesus for his own gains, and destroying the image of Christianity. That makes it every Christian's business.
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Originally posted by Gabriella:
Do you think that greed is not a sin?
Who is greedy? It's the members who contributed money to the church. The church cannot do anything to these members if they do not wish to tithe their income.
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Let me ask you this. Why do you care that people are critizing the church, is that your business?
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The truth can be painful at times...
Pain can lead to retailiation...
Retailiation leads to more pain...
The cycle continues...
I wonder what will Lord Jesus do if He were in our shoes...
My Redeemer, the One who redeemed my heart from the worldly clutches,
My Savior, the One who saved me from eternal condemnation and death,
My Friend, the One who knows my weakness and accepts me as I am...
Apart from that, brothers and sisters, why do you all try to hurt one another with words and still claim Jesus to be Lord? Didn't He want us to love one another?
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it means dun criticize fellow worshippers even you can see they are doing wrong
lets gun down those unbelievers! rock on!
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Originally posted by laurence82:
it means dun criticize fellow worshippers even you can see they are doing wrong
lets gun down those unbelievers! rock on!
"But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect." (1 Peter 3:15)
Bro, hope you meditate on this verse... =)
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sorry i dont, i dont believe in christ hence this verse is null, void and irrelevant
next pls
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Originally posted by laurence82:
sorry i dont, i dont believe in christ hence this verse is null, void and irrelevant
next pls
Oh, you stated fellow worshippers... So I thought you're a Christian...You might want to sit down and talk about Christianity? It is really something that's good for you... =)
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pls, i rather swallow a bottle of vegemite
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Originally posted by laurence82:
pls, i rather swallow a bottle of vegemite
So do you have any issues with Christians?
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of cuz christians, what do u expect, christianity?
pffft
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Originally posted by laurence82:
of cuz christians, what do u expect, christianity?
pffft
Care to share? -
well, i just finished a bowl of kimchi noodles...share with u?
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Originally posted by laurence82:
well, i just finished a bowl of kimchi noodles...share with u?
Finished liao then ask, not sincere wor...
But what I'm referring to is, what are your issues with Chirstians?
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so i say, what can u do abt it?
in the other thread, u will be called NATO by someone wor
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Originally posted by laurence82:
so i say, what can u do abt it?
in the other thread, u will be called NATO by someone wor
The purpose of me coming to fourm is to know more friends actually...
I only reply to those of you whom I find reasonable and friendly...
So sharing of experiences can know more things lor...
So sorry that you were called a NATO by others though...
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its ok
i already reached my quota of christians to know
so too bad