Atheist Meets God
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GOD is so real that it appear in my dream and tell me who is the Asshole who put up this youtube video and didn't give me all his money.
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This video shows exactly what christianity is ...
Where are the Christians
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no one will bother. what is your purpose anyway ?
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Good one!
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Fucking assholes that made this video(first post) because god does not force people to believe in him .. even from a non-christian point of view this is extremely prejudice
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Originally posted by bhkw:
Fucking assholes that made this video(first post) because god does not force people to believe in him .. even from a non-christian point of view this is extremely prejudice
What do you mean? If we don't believe in god and god really exists, we can still go heaven? Because alot of Christians told me otherwise -
not that .. what i meant was that video was very demanding ..
demanding in a way that, what was said by god means everyone must believe ..
not the more relaxed and less kan jiong way of saying ..
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u get what i mean?
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Originally posted by bhkw:
not that .. what i meant was that video was very demanding ..
demanding in a way that, what was said by god means everyone must believe ..
not the more relaxed and less kan jiong way of saying ..
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u get what i mean?
dun get what you mean
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Originally posted by bhkw:
not that .. what i meant was that video was very demanding ..
demanding in a way that, what was said by god means everyone must believe ..
not the more relaxed and less kan jiong way of saying ..
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u get what i mean?
Hmmm... the video was made by a human not God... so u cannot literally take it the truth.
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proof? prove to me now tat if u get married, u wun eventually divorce in the end. can u prove for sure??? so y do we get married? we cun deny tat faith plays a part in it...tats all i am gonna say...
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Originally posted by despondent:
proof? prove to me now tat if u get married, u wun eventually divorce in the end. can u prove for sure??? so y do we get married? we cun deny tat faith plays a part in it...tats all i am gonna say...
blind faith and unquestioned loyalty can lead to evil. do you agree with me on this? -
Originally posted by alfred_chuan:
What do you mean? If we don't believe in god and god really exists, we can still go heaven? Because alot of Christians told me otherwise
That is for God to decide in the end not us. -
Originally posted by despondent:
proof? prove to me now tat if u get married, u wun eventually divorce in the end. can u prove for sure??? so y do we get married? we cun deny tat faith plays a part in it...tats all i am gonna say...
You are right, I can't. I guess you just proved that god existsHere are some more videos. Quite clearly, you belong in the same category as them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbt0yIW6nT4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJxCFa8YmbQ
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
That is for God to decide in the end not us.But the correct interpretation is very important, as it affects the outcome of our after-lives. So can non-believers go to heaven?
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Originally posted by kilfer:
But the correct interpretation is very important, as it affects the outcome of our after-lives. So can non-believers go to heaven?
The question is why nonbelievers would worry about getting into heaven. I thought they never believed and thus never cared what would happen after they died.
However a doubtful atheist who starts to question his 'theist' would probably ask that question. And if an atheist start to doubt his 'theist' then I say why don't he go and find out if there is a God. -
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
The question is why nonbelievers would worry about getting into heaven. I thought they never believed and thus never cared what would happen after they died.
However a doubtful atheist who starts to question his 'theist' would probably ask that question. And if an atheist start to doubt his 'theist' then I say why don't he go and find out if there is a God.
I'm not worried abt the getting into heaven bit, but I'll like to know if I'm missing out on some gd things. The reason why a person does not believe in religion is 'coz there are some parts which he does not understand/agree with. By asking a question to clarify, he is in fact seeking answers which may help him to believe in the religion.Therefore, I'm asking the question to seek an answer to find out if there is a God. In your 1st paragraph, you skirted my question. In the 2nd, you ask me to "find out if there is a God." Can you see the contradiction in logic?
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Originally posted by xalkyrie:
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6
Thanks for the clarifications.
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So basically, we have to know God if we are to go to heaven. But what if a person never had a chance to get to know the gospel?
For eg,
A) A new born baby or young child that died early.
B) When the European powers colonize America (in the name of God?), they killed off the Red Indians before they had a chance to understand what is Christianity.
So for the above 2 cases, who goes to heaven and who goes to hell?
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for A), christians have 2 diff answers to tis. it boils down to whether they believe in predestination or freewill. predestination believers wil say tat those babies tat were predestined from the beginning wil make to heaven, the rest wun. freewill believers wil say tat the baby wil go heaven cos he/she is too young to have the knowledge of wads rite n wrong.
for B) the bible did say tat anyone who has nvr heard the gospel in AD yrs wil be judged by the law...whether or not they wil make it to heaven depends on God's judgement which we humans wun noe for sure. but in modern days, almost everyone has heard the gospel, hence few fall into tis category of nvr heard the gospel b4...
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one addtional pt...how sure r u tat those red indians realli nvr heard the gospel at all b4 they died? as long as they heard it told to them once, they will be liable for judgement if they dun accept. missionaries have been going to such isolated places to share the gospel...however, if they indeed NEVER heard the gospel b4, then they wil be judged under the law by God...will they be heaven? onli God noes...
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Originally posted by kilfer:
I'm not worried abt the getting into heaven bit, but I'll like to know if I'm missing out on some gd things. The reason why a person does not believe in religion is 'coz there are some parts which he does not understand/agree with. By asking a question to clarify, he is in fact seeking answers which may help him to believe in the religion.Therefore, I'm asking the question to seek an answer to find out if there is a God. In your 1st paragraph, you skirted my question. In the 2nd, you ask me to "find out if there is a God." Can you see the contradiction in logic?
I was just making a point that you seem to doubt about the nonexistence of God.
Well then if you got question time to find out. What do you have to lose in your search for the truth. If you are able to differentiate between Christian, Christianity as religion and organization, God and Christian as way of life then you got nothing to lose.
Who knows you might prove yourself right that there is no God. Or you prove yourself wrong. What do you have to lose. asking a question here will bear no fruit.
I or somebody else can give you our own testimony but you still can deny that so what's the point. Find it out yourself.
You know there is no sign at the church door that read unbelievers denied entry. You are always welcome to search. Just sit there, listen, I mean search. read the bible see what it contains. Just search.. If you rely on your logic then USE IT WHILE SEARCHING.
Life after all is about discovering.
And if one finds God it would be such a profound personal discovery ever.
Unless you're too afraid to risk that you might prove yourself wrong . . . -
Originally posted by kilfer:
, but I'll like to know if I'm missing out on some gd things.
I think there is no better thing in life than finding about God. Everyone who wants life should seek God, everyone who craves for power lol should seek God, everyone who wants everything literally everything that one could ever hope even more should FALL IN LOVE WITH GOD BIG.
There is NO luckier person who has walked the earth and who will walk the earth than those who truly be in love with God. . . . .literally.
but that is a blessing itself and doesn't not come from man himself/herself. Man cannot love God with his own effort.