Evolution is just a theory
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Of course the Theory of Evolution is proven. There are by now many "missing links" that were found.
Or just look into your own mouth. Would a all knowing creator of the universe create "wisdom teeth" that are useless and have to be extracted?
Isn't it more logical to conclude that wisdom teeth are relics of the past, of an animal that evolved into homo sapians?
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god designed everything lah
1) all the 6 million species of insects on earth, he designed one by one
2) he decided that there would be hispanics, chinese, indians, caucasians, arabs and africans
god v busy one
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Of course the Theory of Evolution is proven. There are by now many "missing links" that were found.
Or just look into your own mouth. Would a all knowing creator of the universe create "wisdom teeth" that are useless and have to be extracted?
Isn't it more logical to conclude that wisdom teeth are relics of the past, of an animal that evolved into homo sapians?
oh so you can believe that out of nothing "suddenly there's an explosion" the big bang created the world with order, the trees, plants, birds,seas,lands and mammals.
let me tell you every "missing link" that was found was an fully formed creature God created. it wasn't half-way done, everything was perfect.
and God made the birds of the air first before it made the creatures on the ground including insects and other tiny creatures. Then he formed man with His own hands.
The existence of God is obvious, it's everywhere. You cannot tell a painter his own painting "hey i believe this painting wasn't painted by a painter, it was maybe formed when the red then yellow then blue hit it. then it appears to be a painting. That is what the world is doing right now, ignoring the existence of your Creator.
and about the wisdom tooth comment.
You turn things upside down,
as if the potter were thought to be like the clay!
Shall what is formed say to him who formed it,
"He did not make me"?
Can the pot say of the potter,
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Originally posted by alfred_chuan:
Why? Are you saying that it can be proven?The answer to your 'Why?' is because you wrote that "Christianity cannot be proven". Since you wrote it, I am sure you know the answer and thus, my asking of why you say it cannot be proven.
As for your 2nd question "Are you saying that it can be proven?", my answer is "I have not said anything about whether it can or cannot be proven."
Thus since you wrote that Christianity cannot be proven and if you can explain the reason why you wrote so, I would love to hear your explanation. Else, I would take it that your comment was posted without an understanding behind what was written.
Cheers,
JY
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Then where did god come from? Who created him/her/it?
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Originally posted by Sfirstnameong:
And theory cannot be proven.The theory of evolution ignores the reality of sins.Same to survival of the fittest.Try asking an evolutionist this question, Why do Americans spending millions on space travel while many children dies from starvation?
What evolution got to do with 'sins'.
If I am hungry and I slaughter a chicken to fill my belly, am I committing a sin? If yes, a sin to who - the chicken or God?
What evolition got to do with 'survival of the fittest'?
All thu' my biology lessons, I was taught that evolution is about life forms adapting to a given terrain or environment. -
The level of scientific ignorance is astounding. The OP doesn understand what the defination of a "scientific theory" is, which differ from common daily usage. No scientific knowledge can be absolutely proven, and are constantly refined as new evidence reveals themselves. A theory such as evolution (or relativity for the matter) are all supported with massive amount of evidence, and is one of the more successful theories out there.
Crackpot unfalsifiable claims such as creationism do not qualify as a scientific theory simply because it could never be tested.
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Originally posted by kilfer:
Evolution@work... presenting the Swine Flu 2009.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/425104/1/.html
Some excerpts:
Swine flu could mutate to 'more dangerous' strain, says WHO
Posted: 27 April 2009 0226 hrsGENEVA: The swine flu virus that has killed dozens in Mexico could mutate into a "more dangerous" strain, a senior WHO official said on Sunday, adding that the UN agency will decide on Tuesday if it should raise its alert rating.
"Yes, it's quite possible for this virus to evolve," Keiji Fukuda, acting WHO assistant-general for health, security and the environment told journalists.
"When viruses evolve, clearly they can become more dangerous to people," he said.
<pls refer to link for more>
this bacteria we see could be one of the factors for the end of the human race, and also a new breed of lifeforms on earth
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Originally posted by xalkyrie:
oh so you can believe that out of nothing "suddenly there's an explosion" the big bang created the world with order, the trees, plants, birds,seas,lands and mammals.
let me tell you every "missing link" that was found was an fully formed creature God created. it wasn't half-way done, everything was perfect.
and God made the birds of the air first before it made the creatures on the ground including insects and other tiny creatures. Then he formed man with His own hands.
The existence of God is obvious, it's everywhere. You cannot tell a painter his own painting "hey i believe this painting wasn't painted by a painter, it was maybe formed when the red then yellow then blue hit it. then it appears to be a painting. That is what the world is doing right now, ignoring the existence of your Creator.
and about the wisdom tooth comment.
You turn things upside down,
as if the potter were thought to be like the clay!
Shall what is formed say to him who formed it,
"He did not make me"?
Can the pot say of the potter,
"He knows nothing"?hahaha... of course they were fully formed, you do not understand evolution, do you? You think that an animal that is not fully formed, for example, a mammal missing a brain, like you, can exist?
hahaha... the big bang created the world? hahaha.... how more stupid can you get? The universe came into being in what can only be described as a big bang.
It does not say anything about how and why the big bang occurred. That part is for delusionals like you to imagine up and then decalre as the truth.
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Originally posted by Uraniumfish:
Then where did god come from? Who created him/her/it?
In my opinion, God is beyond our understanding. Thus "where did God come from" and "Who created God" cannot be... er... put in such a way...
Erm... Bible says that "He is the Beginning, the End, the Alpha and the Omega..."
Therefore, God do not need something to begin with...
Just like a software engineer, He need not be "in" the software program. So "if" the software generated "people" were to ask "who" created them, they still won't find the answers given their limited resources and understanding... =)
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Originally posted by kager82:
In my opinion, God is beyond our understanding. Thus "where did God come from" and "Who created God" cannot be... er... put in such a way...
Erm... Bible says that "He is the Beginning, the End, the Alpha and the Omega..."
Therefore, God do not need something to begin with...
Just like a software engineer, He need not be "in" the software program. So "if" the software generated "people" were to ask "who" created them, they still won't find the answers given their limited resources and understanding... =)
Well, there certainly seems to be plenty of people who thinks all we need to know about God is in the Bible/Quran/Hebrew scriptures.
If God is beyond our understanding, why do so much think words written more than a millenium ago is somehow more trustworthy than current discoveries?
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Well, there certainly seems to be plenty of people who thinks all we need to know about God is in the Bible/Quran/Hebrew scriptures.
If God is beyond our understanding, why do so much think words written more than a millenium ago is somehow more trustworthy than current discoveries?
The Bible is a guide for us know who God is and what is His purpose for us. I have to say that I am agreeable to the statement that all we need to know about God is in the Bible, or rather, it is sufficient for us to know God through the Bible. =)
The discoveries and inventions, however, tells us how magnificient God is in having created so many things that we do not know. It tells us that God is beyond our understanding and knowledge.
In my opinion, knowing God and verifying His capabilities are 2 vast different topics altogether. =)
I'm still learning about God through the Bible though... (I tell you the truth, lots to learn leh.... -_-")
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Originally posted by kager82:
The Bible is a guide for us know who God is and what is His purpose for us. I have to say that I am agreeable to the statement that all we need to know about God is in the Bible, or rather, it is sufficient for us to know God through the Bible. =)
The discoveries and inventions, however, tells us how magnificient God is in having created so many things that we do not know. It tells us that God is beyond our understanding and knowledge.
In my opinion, knowing God and verifying His capabilities are 2 vast different topics altogether. =)
I'm still learning about God through the Bible though... (I tell you the truth, lots to learn leh.... -_-")
I'm agnostic, so i'm not really against the idea of a God. Though i believe nothing could really be out of his designs, we can't really break out of the programming.
However, it is a problem when people starts guessing what God wants and think they know God's will. People are cherry picking what they wish to believe, obeying some rules and disregarding others.
All holy texts encourage socially responsible behaviours, how much of that have you really seen? I certainly have not seen much of it, especially when it involves others outside of the religion.
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evolution is evidently true.. because TS is clearly a neaderthal
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
I'm agnostic, so i'm not really against the idea of a God. Though i believe nothing could really be out of his designs, we can't really break out of the programming.
However, it is a problem when people starts guessing what God wants and think they know God's will. People are cherry picking what they wish to believe, obeying some rules and disregarding others.
All holy texts encourage socially responsible behaviours, how much of that have you really seen? I certainly have not seen much of it, especially when it involves others outside of the religion.
Oh yeah, I do see people (Christians) do cherry picking nowadays (Prosperity Gospel, Healing and etc...)
It is stated that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Tim 3:16-17)
If all scripture is God-breathed, then the question is how many percent of the scripture should a Christian follow? Is 99% enough?
As for the social responsibility, I think the religious organisations are doing their best to help out the poor already... You just need to look hard...
They have, TOUCH (FCBC), HOPE Worldwide Singapore (CCC), BCARE (LSBC), well, just to name a few... =D
Anyway, I'll really be interested to chat more with you... =)
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We are all part of a computer program Sim City
And "God" is the computer game player. Sometimes, he decides to launch a mass fire, sometimes flood. Haven't seen an alien monster rampaging yet though. Probably there are, just that we are saved unknowingly by the Ministry of Magic who would after that painstakingly alter the memories of pple who seen the monster.
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Originally posted by eagle:
We are all part of a computer program Sim City
And "God" is the computer game player. Sometimes, he decides to launch a mass fire, sometimes flood. Haven't seen an alien monster rampaging yet though. Probably there are, just that we are saved unknowingly by the Ministry of Magic who would after that painstakingly alter the memories of pple who seen the monster.
Hahahaha~! You're still interesting as ever! =D
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just wanna rub it in...
if evolution is at best a theory....
then existence of God, is at best a myth.....
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
just wanna rub it in...
if evolution is at best a theory....
then existence of God, is at best a myth.....
Haha, if God is at best a myth, the human and all other living things are just... hmm... at best a chance?
Oh well, forget what I just said... blabbering nonsence already... hahaha
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Originally posted by kager82:
Oh yeah, I do see people (Christians) do cherry picking nowadays (Prosperity Gospel, Healing and etc...)
It is stated that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Tim 3:16-17)
If all scripture is God-breathed, then the question is how many percent of the scripture should a Christian follow? Is 99% enough?
As for the social responsibility, I think the religious organisations are doing their best to help out the poor already... You just need to look hard...
They have, TOUCH (FCBC), HOPE Worldwide Singapore (CCC), BCARE (LSBC), well, just to name a few... =D
Anyway, I'll really be interested to chat more with you... =)
The Bible also said Adam was first, then Eve was built from his ribs.
But Science has discovered all males were females first, then somehow our ovaries went down south to form testicles. Evolutionary speaking it makes sense, since all life had to start off as asexual in order to reproduce.
We must understand that the Bible was written by hands attempting to understand the world around them, and since their information is limited their conclusion had to be at best inaccurate but it was neccessary to establish proper rules of conduct and behaviour in order for their society to survive and prosper.
Saying Adam was first is an example of the chauvinist society that the Bible was created in and already evident of the biaseness in deciding what God expects of people. How much more of it is distorted by the hands of Man?
"Do no harm upon others" is pretty straightforward in its interpretation. How many have really adhere to this?
Just the same as there are both secular and other religious charity organisations. But for a religion preaching so much about God's love, that love seems to be pretty stingy and comes with conditions.
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Originally posted by kager82:
Haha, if God is at best a myth, the human and all other living things are just... hmm... at best a chance?
Oh well, forget what I just said... blabbering nonsence already... hahaha
wat has chance anything to do with myth?
and if human is at best by chance, then atleast their chance are higher then those of god....
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Originally posted by EarlNeo:
wat has chance anything to do with myth?
and if human is at best by chance, then atleast their chance are higher then those of god....
Haha, like stated... Blabbering nonsense only... Beg your pardon... =) -
Originally posted by kager82:
In my opinion, God is beyond our understanding. Thus "where did God come from" and "Who created God" cannot be... er... put in such a way...
Erm... Bible says that "He is the Beginning, the End, the Alpha and the Omega..."
Therefore, God do not need something to begin with...
Just like a software engineer, He need not be "in" the software program. So "if" the software generated "people" were to ask "who" created them, they still won't find the answers given their limited resources and understanding... =)
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
The Bible also said Adam was first, then Eve was built from his ribs.
But Science has discovered all males were females first, then somehow our ovaries went down south to form testicles. Evolutionary speaking it makes sense, since all life had to start off as asexual in order to reproduce.
We must understand that the Bible was written by hands attempting to understand the world around them, and since their information is limited their conclusion had to be at best inaccurate but it was neccessary to establish proper rules of conduct and behaviour in order for their society to survive and prosper.
Saying Adam was first is an example of the chauvinist society that the Bible was created in and already evident of the biaseness in deciding what God expects of people. How much more of it is distorted by the hands of Man?
"Do no harm upon others" is pretty straightforward in its interpretation. How many have really adhere to this?
Just the same as there are both secular and other religious charity organisations. But for a religion preaching so much about God's love, that love seems to be pretty stingy and comes with conditions.
Erm... its the teaching that I'm talking about that needs to be followed... As for how human is formed and such and such... The bible is talking about the purpose of forming human not how the human is formed rite? =)
We wouldn't know for sure that Adam may be the one that's formed first, but the subsequent ones are definately formed in female's wombs... =)
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Originally posted by youyayu:
Oh yes! Thanks for reminding~ The watch and its designer concept...
We all know that the watch is created by the designer because it has complicated parts... Nobody who found a watch in the desert or jungle will say that a watch is evolved or something like that rite?
So human gotta be created by a designer rite? =)