Does God Exist??
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HAHA l could just kill myself...
OK, everyone that's posted on this, please go back and re-read everything you've posted and see how many holes are in your logic. If you can't find any, trust me, they're there. (You can scientifically prove it. lol)
People can be born, but they can't survive without God, right ATR? Have you ever met a person without a soul? If you have, then l hope it creeped you out. If you haven't, good for you. But ask yourself this: Where do souls come from, and how would you acquire them? (Trust me, they're not masses of energy floating around, and they're not chemical functions of your brain, either.)
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Originally posted by CJ:Have you ever met a person without a soul? If you have, then l hope it creeped you out.If you haven't, good for you. But ask yourself this: Where do souls come from, and how would you acquire them? (Trust me, they're not masses of energy floating around, and they're not chemical functions of your brain, either.)
There is no living man who is without a soul. If you meant conscience well conscience is not soul.
And yes souls are not simply masses of energy floating around but I think some souls could for whatever reason change its appearance into masses of glowing energy ball. I don't know whether they were human souls though. Some souls could fly or move in the airspace. Some others move very quickly as if they were lightning. Others walk and teleported. Some souls when they move in our world reverbates a distintive energy waves that actually could be felt very clearly at least to the person it intended to feel. I have no idea why they reverbates energy waves while moving. But those which do reverbate in varying strength. And they are imo are not ordinary souls. I think the stronger the spirit, the stronger the reverbation they cause to the 'environment'. Perhaps the reverbation is the tearing of the fabric of time and space. But this is just my stupid theory.
As for where do souls come from and how one acquired one is still much a mystery. I don't think living person souls come from heaven well except for Christ.
But I do know where [some] human souls are going and where Jesus went for three days after His death on the cross. And why Jesus told His disciples that Lazarus was sleeping when He actually meant that he was dead. Read the two links below to know where [some] human souls are going. It's a place neither heaven nor hell. It's the place Jesus referred as the kingdom of death. It's a situation brought upon by the deceit of the snake upon the first human.
http://www.akupercaya.com/blog/view/id_839/title_what-death-actually-is/
http://www.akupercaya.com/blog/view/id_854/title_death-according-to-the-bible/
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
There is no living man who is without a soul. If you meant conscience well conscience is not soul.
And yes souls are not simply masses of energy floating around but I think some souls could for whatever reason change its appearance into masses of glowing energy ball. I don't know whether they were human souls though. Some souls could fly or move in the airspace. Some others move very quickly as if they were lightning. Others walk and teleported. Some souls when they move in our world reverbates a distintive energy waves that actually could be felt very clearly at least to the person it intended to feel. I have no idea why they reverbates energy waves while moving.
As for where do souls come from and how one acquired one is still much a mystery. I don't think living person souls come from heaven well except for Christ.
But I do know where [some] human souls are going and where Jesus went for three days after His death on the cross. And why Jesus told His disciples that Lazarus was sleeping when He actually meant that he was dead. Read the two links below to know where [some] human souls are going. It's a place neither heaven nor hell. It's the place Jesus referred as the kingdom of death. It's a situation brought upon by the deceit of the snake upon the first human.
http://www.akupercaya.com/blog/view/id_839/title_what-death-actually-is/
http://www.akupercaya.com/blog/view/id_854/title_death-according-to-the-bible/
if all human have a soul, can you describe it, and whether Ape, and then monkey, and all animal have a soul?
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Originally posted by rokkie:
if all human have a soul, can you describe it, and whether Ape, and then monkey, and all animal have a soul?
I don't know whether animals have soul but I tend to say yes. But I do not really know for sure.But I strongly believe that human are not to be counted among animals.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I don't know whether animals have soul but I tend to say yes. But I do not really know for sure.
so what's soul like, it's a kind of inner form of yourself.And if when we say there is a soul exist, seems there is a life after death, actually even there is a god,or a soul, i don't believe it's like what been described in mythology, god cannot be conceive by human with the limited knowledge, but i tend to believe human are not alone in universe, so maybe there is higher civilisation or higher creature, someone name it god.
A human cannot even know all the knowledge in the human world, how can a human conceive god, which is supernatural?
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I don't know whether animals have soul but I tend to say yes. But I do not really know for sure.But I strongly believe that human are not to be counted among animals.
animal have feeling, sometimes they are happy, or sad, they even have brain, from body structure, human only have larger brains than animals, which make us human, so i don't really see a big difference between human and animalplus, Darwin said human evolve from Ape, is Ape sought of animal?
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I don't know whether animals have soul but I tend to say yes. But I do not really know for sure.But I strongly believe that human are not to be counted among animals.
Are you aware of how similar humans and chimpanzees or humans and gorillas are in terms of genetics? You still say that humans are not to be classified as animals. Sigh.... Typical ignorance of a christian. -
Originally posted by CJ:
HAHA l could just kill myself...
OK, everyone that's posted on this, please go back and re-read everything you've posted and see how many holes are in your logic. If you can't find any, trust me, they're there. (You can scientifically prove it. lol)
People can be born, but they can't survive without God, right ATR? Have you ever met a person without a soul? If you have, then l hope it creeped you out. If you haven't, good for you. But ask yourself this: Where do souls come from, and how would you acquire them? (Trust me, they're not masses of energy floating around, and they're not chemical functions of your brain, either.)
Don't kill yourself just yet. There is a way to find out if you have a soul.
Dedicate yourself(your soul) to Satan. No soul, no problem.
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so is it okay for a christian to test god?
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Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:
wad the phark u toking bout?
terrorists are just using the name Islam for themeselves and make Islam look bad.
ur stereotypical mind of having 1 blacksheep of many, equilevant to most is retarded.
what if it was you christians who are actually terrorists trying to ruin the name of Islam?
have you think about that?
And I'm not an Islam btw. I'm just protecting other people religion and view.
chil chill....just saying dude-.-
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dun exist.
u can try pray..see if it works.
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Originally posted by A.T.R:
i tink i'm agnostic!!!OMG!!!
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Yes. God exist if you are the protagonist in A Beautiful Mind.
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haha your "stupid theory" is the closest one i've seen so far that relates to the actual theory. (Memory serves one purpose...) The way energy can cause a tear in time and space (aka, a rift) in order to pass through. It's kind of like... when you throw something. There's a lot of laws of physics that have to be applied to throw an object, and also to have accuracy. I'm not saying that the movement of souls is as easy as that, though. Maybe......
oh, and I have a digital camera that can take a picture where you see everything clearly and then you end up with all these white cirlces in the picture. That might be the visible example behind your explanation.
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Originally posted by dAiyAm0nd0:
so is it okay for a christian to test god?
Nobody can test God imo. Simply because God doesn't allow Himself to be tested. So nobody could test God. Ever. -
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
Nobody can test God imo. Simply because God doesn't allow Himself to be tested. So nobody could test God. Ever.
So isn't it blind faith to believe in something which you cant verify?
Anyway, regarding the souls, you tend to say animals do have souls, but many christians believe that humans have the right to tread on the rights of animals because god gave humans the permission and this is because god did not create animals in his image, thus they do not possess an immortal soul which would one day inhibit heaven.
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Another proof which show many christians do not believe animals have souls: "Well, in a public audience on January 19th 1990 Pope John Paul 11 said "also the animals possess a soul and men must love and feel solidarity with smaller brethren" He pointed out that in Genesis "the way in which man was created suggests a relationship with the spirit or the breath of God. And one reads that after having created man from the dust of the earth, the Lord God 'breathed life into his nostrils and man became a living soul.'" He went on to say that animals have the breath of life and were given it by God. So, in this respect, man, created by the hand of God, is identical with all other living creatures. Although the pope's statement was reported in the Italian press it was not reported in the UK and was ignored by British Catholic publications." source: http://www.eclipse.co.uk/thoughts/animalsouls.htm#4
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Your question is easy to be answer :)
Well dont belive = u have ur reason
Belive = u have ur reason
And I'm sure everyone knows what are those reason to belive and not to.
But the people are still asking weather they "should" or "should not" belive in God.
Is really no use asking another person for this question actually. (Since u aready know the "reason")
So, just ask yourself. Do u "want" to belive in God, rather than "should" you belive in God.
And your problem will be solve :)
Luck and peace :)
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Quote dAiyAm0nd0 wrote:
So isn't it blind faith to believe in something which you cant verify?
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Well a relationship with God is primarily based on faith. You can't change that. God in all His wisdom thinks that our faith is something precious to be valued by Him.
It doesn't mean that the faith is blind because believers will have moments in their life where they actually see God's work that is indisputable to the believer. Be it a miraculous healing, miraculous repentance, being freed from the threat of evil, being consoled when praying, overwhelming peace, dramatic change of heart, vision, prophecy, apparition, personal revelation and other kind of wonders.
Some even have a more intimate relationship with God than many other people. These people are known to be mystics or saints( I know that to some Christians every Christian is a saint but not every self professed Christian is a Christian).
In other words God is something personal that you need to experience. And you will find that faith in Christ and God is not in vain. It works.
The problem now is I see so many Christians today who are clueless about God and having no personal relationship with God. Many Christians also prefer safety than to stand on their faith. Many lost their faith, dying slowly in their faith over the years so that they become neither Christians or atheist in a full sense or they become a fanatics/extremist out of desperation. From what I've seen from these people they have no personal experience with God and are usually very weak in their faith or having a false sense of spirituality which is fabricated instead of genuine.
I don't mean to judge them but when one decides to become a Christian either go all the way or don't bother to become one lest one wants to become the stone that hinders others from finding about Christ.
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Originally posted by A.T.R:
I need to noe whether i shuld believe in god....i have lots of punk frens and have met some unique type of frens..they call themselves Nihilist(they fvck cares everything which i tink its more or less some kind of a bullshit) and they asked my sku frens wad has god done for them....and my sku frens replied "god brought me to tis life?"...and my Nihilist frens has some point which i agree...god didn't...it was ur parents who have sex together and thn u came out and i dun see why god has a part in it...i'm starting to doubt god nowadays....i have wasted my time praying for him which i dun c its going anywhere...anyone can tell me whether i shuld continue to believe in god?
Its you choice TS. I recommend you viewing www.unexplained-mysteries.comMaybe they can help you better.
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Yes. God exist if you are the protagonist in A Beautiful Mind.
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God still exists even when atheists say He doesn't.
Know what God still exists even when the whole world denies Him.
Because God is not a cheap lies fabricated by men.
The existence of God doesn't depend on the beliefs in the small minds of the people living in this world. God's existence doesn't depend on our beliefs. Unlike some other things like overbloated performance and achievement, defamation, prestige, pride, reputation and all kinds of lies. Those things only exist in the mind of the people who bought them. That's why people need to buy them otherwise these things lose their power and influence.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
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Yes. God exist if you are the protagonist in A Beautiful Mind.
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God still exists even when atheists say He doesn't.
Know what God still exists even when the whole world denies Him.
Because God is not a cheap lies fabricated by men.
The existence of God doesn't depend on the beliefs in the small minds of the people living in this world. God's existence doesn't depend on our beliefs. Unlike some other things like overbloated performance and achievement, defamation, prestige, pride, reputation and all kinds of lies. Those things only exist in the mind of the people who bought them. That's why people need to buy them otherwise these things lose their power and influence.
you see, the problem is like this, no one can prove to people who don't believe in god, that god exist, that's the problem, if you are believe in your personal god, it may not be universal to everyone,blind is not equal to faith.Don't take it as an offense
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Why must we always challenge and ask for proof and evidence of any beliefs?
When you are with your mother, do you ask for proof that she is your biological mother? Oh yes, you may say that you have birth cert to prove it. Then why can't Christians have bible as the proven word of God? Or do we go into searching for scientific evidence by doing a DNA test on our parents? Yes, we can do it, but why isn't anybody doing it and choose to believe with no question asked?
You see... how Christian believe the existence in God is just like how we believe in our own parents (forget about those problem kids who have issues with parents).
In my example above,
Child = Christian
Parent = God
Birth Cert = Bible
DNA test = scientific evidence of God's existence
My mom told me that she gave birth to me by natural delivery. She also shared with me her ordeal while giving birth to me and I almost died in her womb. I believe in what she told me and of course I believe that she is my biological mother. So, is that blind believing? Or should I ask for proof and scientific evidence of the believability?